McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors

[HAL 9000 96]

B/C a good part of the current electrical grid relies on petroleum-based consumption at power plants to generate electricity. Less oil used = more is available to use in vehicles. Now... as for oil company profits and speculation... that's another ballgame.

Physicists give estimates based on where the particular state of Fusion Research is at. Some claim to have done it but without the benefit of scientific reproduction to give weight to their claims. Hence it will be a bit longer before it reaches wider feasability.

Then please tell me where these petroleum based power plants are. Better yet, show me one that uses OIL for electricity generation.

I could be wrong here but its to my knowledge oil is used in the vast majority for vehicles and in some cases heating.

And as far as physicists estimates go... Im sure their main estimate of concern is where their next grant will come from.

Once again...if they know fusion is possible (and more importantly profitable), then it would be out there in the news headlines....unless you believe there is a vast conspiracy to cover up this discovery because we all know the evil oil companies and George Bush run the world.

Wikipedia is a good tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_plant

As far as the physicists, like I may have implied and you missed, it has more to do with research limitations, technological infrastructure, and the ability of science as a whole to reproduce scientific claims. Perhaps you'd like to claim otherwise, and so be it.

The burn-up rate of nuclear fuel translate into how much energy one can get from a rod of uranium or plutonium. As we increase the efficiency of these reactors by increasing the burn-up rate, the waste produced will be more hazardous to our environment. The lower the burn-up rate, the less hazardous. The absorbtion dose (human or bio tissue absorbtion) will be high if the nuclear reactors become much more efficient. It doesn't produce any pollutants during operation, but it just stores a much more powerful pollutant that is not disposal or seperable such as sulfuric acid from coal plants. On the hand, some bio-chemists discovered an organism that eat trash, and deficate petroleum. Maybe there's a solution after all for our oil-crisis.

We will get nuclear wastes that takes thousands of years to become stable.

Spent nuclear fuel is spent nuclear fuel. It's all pretty dang deadly. My background is Navy nuclear propulsion. My current is Health Physics. The enrichment of the fuel doesn't make it any more or less deadly. If anyone approached one you would die instantly. Of course they are stored underwater or in dry casks to shield them. Navy reactors are designed to run with much higher enrichment (and have never had a single accident... thanks to kick a$$ training)

until Yucca we have this (our fuel pools are filling up)

Dry Cask Storage

Very, very true as well. Is full exposure that deadly that quickly? Lucky me the amounts of gamma Rads I work with daily are in the microCuries!!!

Edited June 19, 2008 by maviwaro

[Niels Bohr 72]

electric generators used to run various cellular antannae across the country as also considered power plants themselves since they used petroleum based fuel.

Many remote areas in the US relies on these diesal power plants because it's either too expensive, or the surrounding environment is too complicated to set up poles to get to these areas. Not only that, the longer the transmission wires, the less energy the area will be able to get. Nicolai Tesla was the one who convinced everybody that by using AC current, electricity can travel further inside the wire. Every other scientists didn't believe that, they believed DC current is the way to go. Well, they're wrong, and Tesla was right.

Back to the point, 45 nuclear plant sounds very good. There have been state run nuclear plants in the past; however, many of them have shut down due to lack of demand growth.

Edited June 19, 2008 by consolemaster

[HAL 9000 96]

electric generators used to run various cellular antannae across the country as also considered power plants themselves since they used petroleum based fuel.

Many remote areas in the US relies on these diesal power plants because it's either too expensive, or the surrounding environment is too complicated to set up poles to get to these areas. Not only that, the longer the transmission wires, the less energy the area will be able to get. Nicolai Tesla was the one who convinced everybody that by using AC current, electricity can travel further inside the wire. Every other scientists didn't believe that, they believed DC current is the way to go. Well, they're wrong, and Tesla was right.

Back to the point, 45 nuclear plant sounds very good. There have been state run nuclear plants in the past; however, many of them have shut down due to lack of demand growth.

STFU before Edison rises from the grave to give you a smackdown.

I'm not sure how the rivalry went down, but it was one group against another. Eventually the practicality of AC won out and Edison had to stfu.

[eric&gen 0]

Good plan coming from whack job McCain more nuclear waste than the earth can handle theres goes the environment more money from our tax dollars to find more places to hide the waste.

So tell me enlightened one...just how much nuclear "waste" can the earth handle? Or are you just spouting off nonsense because you really have no clue?

By the way... heres a short quiz? Which has caused more environemental damage in the last 100 years. A. COAL B. NUCLEAR or C. Third World Socialist/Communist Tyrants?

Anyone who knows anything about the world knows the obvious answer.

I may have no clue at least i try Mrs Dark hole so why don't you STFU. I like you to see how long you last talk chit call people names to people on here face to face.

[almaty 19]

brother eric..need to calm down and don't make threats.....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Nuclear is safe and clean if handled properly...

Seeing your ties to the Ukraine, there should be a bit of caution out there in regards to the potential hazardous nature of nuclear power.

Always remember Miss Chernobyl.

[eric&gen 0]

They can ship nuclear waste to IRAQ.

[mawilson 2,133]

Bury it miles down in a shaft and seal it in.

Preferably somewhere in Africa

[darkhorse 0]

I may have no clue at least i try Mrs Dark hole so why don't you STFU. I like you to see how long you last talk chit call people names to people on here face to face.

Whatever-

And if you have no clue then maybe you should STFU! Uninformed people make wrong decisions that can set us all back and cost our economy billions.

[darkhorse 0]

Wikipedia is a good tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_power_plant

As far as the physicists, like I may have implied and you missed, it has more to do with research limitations, technological infrastructure, and the ability of science as a whole to reproduce scientific claims. Perhaps you'd like to claim otherwise, and so be it.

Wikipedia is a good tool But the link mentions nothing about oil fired electrical generation plants.... There is no argument they use fossil fuels but not oil (at least not in significant quantities).

[Heracles 417]

That's why they get the big bucks.

The only engineers I know who are wealthy are the ones who are in business for themselves. Engineering salaries are the suck!

Well we all know of two supposed engineers here that make pretty nice moolah.

Coincidentally the Michael Douglas type in Falling Down.

May want to look at this. http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/18/college-m...=rss_popstories

[eric&gen 0]

I have an idea for Mrs Dark Horse hole how about we use IRAO as a nuclear wast dump site in certain areas that have been heavily damaged by the war. Ship the waste on a boat along with you stuffed inside a nuclear waste drum looool.

[darkhorse 0]

I have an idea for Mrs Dark Horse hole how about we use IRAO as a nuclear wast dump site in certain areas that have been heavily damaged by the war. Ship the waste on a boat along with you stuffed inside a nuclear waste drum looool.

Once again, the idiot speaks- there seems to be no shortage of stupidity in the world and Eric is living proof.

[eric&gen 0]

I have an idea for Mrs Dark Horse hole how about we use IRAO as a nuclear wast dump site in certain areas that have been heavily damaged by the war. Ship the waste on a boat along with you stuffed inside a nuclear waste drum looool.

Once again, the idiot speaks- there seems to be no shortage of stupidity in the world and Eric is living proof.

What is your famous line WHAT EVER.

[eric&gen 0]

No comments from the horses mouth thought so.