Looking for the Bounce? Here's it is!

[yogib37 3]

What liberal biased poll was that anyway? Never heard of it. I wonder just who they are talking to, for it is not accurate at all.

Based on....?

Flawed Methodology?

Contrary Results?

Gut?

Crystal Ball?

Tea Leaves?

Chicken Entrails?

Hey

How come you stole Bosco from Bro Dean?

:rofl:

Too bad the poodle was not under the cart

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Now here’s the bounce: A few recent national polls -- which have shown Obama leading McCain by single digits after he essentially wrapped up the Democratic nomination -- have led some in the media to ask: Where’s the bounce? Well, here it is… Obama is now leading in three of the biggest battleground states, according to a new Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, it’s Obama 47%, McCain 43%. In Ohio, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 42%. And in Pennsylvania, it’s Obama 52%, McCain 40%. For the McCain camp, those PA numbers have to be particularly frustrating. And if Obama's getting a bounce like this in Florida now, imagine what happens after a few days of bad off-shore oil drilling press in the state for McCain.

Todays polls are out.

Florida McCain 47% Obama 39%

Ohio McCain 44% Obama 43%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html

Sorry Dog. The bounce didn't last long. Florida wants off shore drilling. It gave McCain a real boost.

Rasmussen had McSame ahead all along.

Not much of a shift there. See below:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

04/10/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 38%

03/12/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 43%

02/16/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 37%

Sorry Gary but there isn't a drill euphoria payoff for the poodle here.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I did not make that statement. Not like that. I did say that I would not support HRC if she was to hi-jack the nomination - i.e. become the nominee based on having the party machine change the rules in the middle of the game or after the game has been played. I was quite concerned about that possibility and would have had difficulties supporting an installed nominee.

Yes I do remember you putting it that way.

I also remember this:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1344328

And? That contradicts what I just said how?

[GaryC 7]

Now here’s the bounce: A few recent national polls -- which have shown Obama leading McCain by single digits after he essentially wrapped up the Democratic nomination -- have led some in the media to ask: Where’s the bounce? Well, here it is… Obama is now leading in three of the biggest battleground states, according to a new Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, it’s Obama 47%, McCain 43%. In Ohio, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 42%. And in Pennsylvania, it’s Obama 52%, McCain 40%. For the McCain camp, those PA numbers have to be particularly frustrating. And if Obama's getting a bounce like this in Florida now, imagine what happens after a few days of bad off-shore oil drilling press in the state for McCain.

Todays polls are out.

Florida McCain 47% Obama 39%

Ohio McCain 44% Obama 43%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html

Sorry Dog. The bounce didn't last long. Florida wants off shore drilling. It gave McCain a real boost.

Rasmussen had McSame ahead all along.

Not much of a shift there. See below:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

04/10/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 38%

03/12/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 43%

02/16/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 37%

Sorry Gary but there isn't a drill euphoria payoff for the poodle here.

Ah, so your OP didn't mean a thing from the begining? Oh, BTW, McCain's suggestion that we drill off the coast of Florida gave him a really big boost.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Now here’s the bounce: A few recent national polls -- which have shown Obama leading McCain by single digits after he essentially wrapped up the Democratic nomination -- have led some in the media to ask: Where’s the bounce? Well, here it is… Obama is now leading in three of the biggest battleground states, according to a new Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, it’s Obama 47%, McCain 43%. In Ohio, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 42%. And in Pennsylvania, it’s Obama 52%, McCain 40%. For the McCain camp, those PA numbers have to be particularly frustrating. And if Obama's getting a bounce like this in Florida now, imagine what happens after a few days of bad off-shore oil drilling press in the state for McCain.

Todays polls are out.

Florida McCain 47% Obama 39%

Ohio McCain 44% Obama 43%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html

Sorry Dog. The bounce didn't last long. Florida wants off shore drilling. It gave McCain a real boost.

Rasmussen had McSame ahead all along.

Not much of a shift there. See below:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

04/10/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 38%

03/12/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 43%

02/16/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 37%

Sorry Gary but there isn't a drill euphoria payoff for the poodle here.

Ah, so your OP didn't mean a thing from the begining? Oh, BTW, McCain's suggestion that we drill off the coast of Florida gave him a really big boost.

No Gary. There's a difference between the Rasmussen and the Quinnipac poll. A significant difference in the methodology which causes the varying numbers. Find out what that difference is and then we can talk which is the more meaningful way to conduct these polls.

As for McCain's boost, he went from 50% to 47%. Some boost.

Edited June 19, 2008 by Mr. Big Dog

[GaryC 7]

Now here’s the bounce: A few recent national polls -- which have shown Obama leading McCain by single digits after he essentially wrapped up the Democratic nomination -- have led some in the media to ask: Where’s the bounce? Well, here it is… Obama is now leading in three of the biggest battleground states, according to a new Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, it’s Obama 47%, McCain 43%. In Ohio, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 42%. And in Pennsylvania, it’s Obama 52%, McCain 40%. For the McCain camp, those PA numbers have to be particularly frustrating. And if Obama's getting a bounce like this in Florida now, imagine what happens after a few days of bad off-shore oil drilling press in the state for McCain.

Todays polls are out.

Florida McCain 47% Obama 39%

Ohio McCain 44% Obama 43%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html

Sorry Dog. The bounce didn't last long. Florida wants off shore drilling. It gave McCain a real boost.

Rasmussen had McSame ahead all along.

Not much of a shift there. See below:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

04/10/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 38%

03/12/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 43%

02/16/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 37%

Sorry Gary but there isn't a drill euphoria payoff for the poodle here.

Ah, so your OP didn't mean a thing from the begining? Oh, BTW, McCain's suggestion that we drill off the coast of Florida gave him a really big boost.

No Gary. There's a difference between the Rasmussen and the Quinnipac poll. A significant difference in the methodology which causes the varying numbers. Find out what that difference is and then we can talk which is the more meaningful way to conduct these polls.

As for McCain's boost, he went from 50% to 47%. Some boost.

The boost came from Obama losing support. From the poll:

However, after voters were told that McCain favored offshore drilling and Obama opposed it, McCain’s lead increased to eleven points, 49% to 38%. While a three-point net gain is not stunning, it is significant that the issue didn’t push voters towards Obama.

It shows that yet again Obama and his party line positions are not playing well with the country. But hey, it's early. A lot can happen.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Now here’s the bounce: A few recent national polls -- which have shown Obama leading McCain by single digits after he essentially wrapped up the Democratic nomination -- have led some in the media to ask: Where’s the bounce? Well, here it is… Obama is now leading in three of the biggest battleground states, according to a new Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, it’s Obama 47%, McCain 43%. In Ohio, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 42%. And in Pennsylvania, it’s Obama 52%, McCain 40%. For the McCain camp, those PA numbers have to be particularly frustrating. And if Obama's getting a bounce like this in Florida now, imagine what happens after a few days of bad off-shore oil drilling press in the state for McCain.

Todays polls are out.

Florida McCain 47% Obama 39%

Ohio McCain 44% Obama 43%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html

Sorry Dog. The bounce didn't last long. Florida wants off shore drilling. It gave McCain a real boost.

Rasmussen had McSame ahead all along.

Not much of a shift there. See below:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

04/10/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 38%

03/12/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 43%

02/16/2008

McCain 53%

Obama 37%

Sorry Gary but there isn't a drill euphoria payoff for the poodle here.

Ah, so your OP didn't mean a thing from the begining? Oh, BTW, McCain's suggestion that we drill off the coast of Florida gave him a really big boost.

No Gary. There's a difference between the Rasmussen and the Quinnipac poll. A significant difference in the methodology which causes the varying numbers. Find out what that difference is and then we can talk which is the more meaningful way to conduct these polls.

As for McCain's boost, he went from 50% to 47%. Some boost.

The boost came from Obama losing support. From the poll:

However, after voters were told that McCain favored offshore drilling and Obama opposed it, McCain’s lead increased to eleven points, 49% to 38%. While a three-point net gain is not stunning, it is significant that the issue didn’t push voters towards Obama.

It shows that yet again Obama and his party line positions are not playing well with the country. But hey, it's early. A lot can happen.

Maybe you missed it:

06/18/2008

McCain 47%

Obama 39%

05/19/2008

McCain 50%

Obama 40%

Even if you were to plug in the 49 / 38 you quote, I still wonder what boost is that opposed to the last polling?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

McCain's 10 point lead erased - now tied In GA. Bounce that!

The Georgia bounce

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:55 AM

by Domenico Montanaro

McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in Georgia, according to an InsiderAdvantage poll. McCain leads 44% to 43% over Obama with the Libertarian candidate, former GOP Rep. Bob Barr, getting 6%.

The poll's results are a change from the same poll a month ago, indicating another state where Obama has benefitted from his winning the Democratic nomination. A May 20th InsiderAdvantage poll showed McCain with a 10-point lead, 45% to 35% over Obama with Barr getting 8%.

[HAL 9000 96]

That's been my view for a while now - that McCain would probably win but not by a very wide margin.

I think Barack could still do it though - assuming he's able to unite the party...

Of course I think it really depends how disillusioned people are with the current administration - as that is going to have some effect on McCains numbers.

If it were any other republican running he would be getting his azz kicked right now. But McCain has the reputation of going his own way rather than bowing to the party. Big Dog's assursion that McCain is just Bush's poodle just isn't working with the voters. The view that Obama is Carter 2.0 on the other hand is sticking.

Add to that the positions the candidates have on energy and taxes and Obama has a very hard road ahead of him.

I don't know. To be honest both labels are sticking in the places they're supposed to stick- far away from actual issues. Unless of course, we look into the labels and argue that the labels describe actual issues too.

That's been my view for a while now - that McCain would probably win but not by a very wide margin.

I think Barack could still do it though - assuming he's able to unite the party...

Of course I think it really depends how disillusioned people are with the current administration - as that is going to have some effect on McCains numbers.

If it were any other republican running he would be getting his azz kicked right now. But McCain has the reputation of going his own way rather than bowing to the party. Big Dog's assursion that McCain is just Bush's poodle just isn't working with the voters. The view that Obama is Carter 2.0 on the other hand is sticking.

Add to that the positions the candidates have on energy and taxes and Obama has a very hard road ahead of him.

I'm not sure about that - perceptually at least McCain has allied himself very firmly with Bush. Policy issues aside - it presents a perception of business as usual. He needs to establish his policies to distinguish himself from the status quo - as he's inevitably going to take a hit just for being the candidate for the incumbent party.

I think Obama's problem is in establishing exactly what he stands for - a national policy platform in other words.

But I do agree that the Democrats are doing their best to throw away what should have been a shoe-in.

Yeah I am also getting a bit of that impression but to be honest on the grand scheme of things I think that over time they will stop making mistakes that run on the fashion show side of the election. After that it should boil down to the issues that have shaped the last two terms quite in their favor.

[zqt3344 21]

He will bounce that once the campaigning begins. There are about 12-15% or more still undecided leaning republican. Oh and by the way, wait until the public becomes more educated about Ovomits racist church and past being muslim. He is going to get an education in national politics, it is coming just stay tuned.

McCain's 10 point lead erased - now tied In GA. Bounce that!

The Georgia bounce

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:55 AM

by Domenico Montanaro

McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in Georgia, according to an InsiderAdvantage poll. McCain leads 44% to 43% over Obama with the Libertarian candidate, former GOP Rep. Bob Barr, getting 6%.

The poll's results are a change from the same poll a month ago, indicating another state where Obama has benefitted from his winning the Democratic nomination. A May 20th InsiderAdvantage poll showed McCain with a 10-point lead, 45% to 35% over Obama with Barr getting 8%.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

McCain's 10 point lead erased - now tied In GA. Bounce that!

The Georgia bounce

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:55 AM

by Domenico Montanaro

McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in Georgia, according to an InsiderAdvantage poll. McCain leads 44% to 43% over Obama with the Libertarian candidate, former GOP Rep. Bob Barr, getting 6%.

The poll's results are a change from the same poll a month ago, indicating another state where Obama has benefitted from his winning the Democratic nomination. A May 20th InsiderAdvantage poll showed McCain with a 10-point lead, 45% to 35% over Obama with Barr getting 8%.

There are about 12-15% or more still undecided leaning republican.

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