Communist Government In Ontario Gets Their Wish.

[Krikit 1,165]

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

[Krikit 1,165]

Split Speed Limits + Lane Restrictions

Even if you're not a trucker, and even if you don't like trucks, please read this page, because it affects the safety of EVERY individual driving on the highways and interstates in the country, and that means every driver and passenger in every vehicle, including you, your friends, your spouse, and your children:

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Wow. What a whole lot of narrow-minded idiotic claptrap.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Split Speed Limits + Lane Restrictions

Even if you're not a trucker, and even if you don't like trucks, please read this page, because it affects the safety of EVERY individual driving on the highways and interstates in the country, and that means every driver and passenger in every vehicle, including you, your friends, your spouse, and your children:

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Wow. What a whole lot of narrow-minded idiotic claptrap.

Claptrap?

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

Environmentally conscious? I've been to Hamilton.

Edited June 17, 2008 by WideAwakeInTheUSA

[Krikit 1,165]

Split Speed Limits + Lane Restrictions

Even if you're not a trucker, and even if you don't like trucks, please read this page, because it affects the safety of EVERY individual driving on the highways and interstates in the country, and that means every driver and passenger in every vehicle, including you, your friends, your spouse, and your children:

<snip>

Wow. What a whole lot of narrow-minded idiotic claptrap.

Claptrap?

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

Environmentally conciou? I've been to Hamilton.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

First, you seem to have a unique definition of communism when it means enforcing speed limits completely changes a country's system of government . . .

Secondly, having grown up and lived in Ontario the majority of my adult life - and I will be 53 this week - I have spend many years on those same highways since I started to drive when I was 16 trying to keep out of the way of being run over by transport trucks. Every week where I used to live in Southwestern Ontario there were major accidents with fatalities on Hwy 401, virtually all of them caused by transport trucks hitting other vehicles - rear ending cars, rear ending other transport trucks, running over top of police vehicles stopped at the side of the road investigating other accidents, transport trucks running over top of construction workers, transport trucks running off of the road, running off of ramps . . . In many cases excess speed has been cited as the cause or one of the causes. The speed limit on Highway 401 is 100 km an hour - that is plenty. Most car traffic travels at 110 to 115 - and then the transport trucks going roaring past! I am all for speed limiters on transport truck traffic since the drivers seem to feel they do not need to follow highway rules of the road.

I would also be for any other type of device that would prevent them from riding so close to your bumper that you can't see their license plates, or anything other than this massive grill filling the rear window while you are already going 10 km over the speed limit and they are honking their horns at you (of course the lane next to you is also blocked so you have no where to move). There are good transport drivers out there but there are so many bad transport drivers with vehicles in poor repair (I remember one road side stop by police netted over 77% of transport trucks being pulled from the road because of serious issues with brakes, tires, wheels, etc.) that this is a serious issue. Bravo for the Ontario government for taking action to make Ontario highways safer.

[Teacher Mark 53]

First, you seem to have a unique definition of communism when it means enforcing speed limits completely changes a country's system of government . . .

Secondly, having grown up and lived in Ontario the majority of my adult life - and I will be 53 this week - I have spend many years on those same highways since I started to drive when I was 16 trying to keep out of the way of being run over by transport trucks. Every week where I used to live in Southwestern Ontario there were major accidents with fatalities on Hwy 401, virtually all of them caused by transport trucks hitting other vehicles - rear ending cars, rear ending other transport trucks, running over top of police vehicles stopped at the side of the road investigating other accidents, transport trucks running over top of construction workers, transport trucks running off of the road, running off of ramps . . . In many cases excess speed has been cited as the cause or one of the causes. The speed limit on Highway 401 is 100 km an hour - that is plenty. Most car traffic travels at 110 to 115 - and then the transport trucks going roaring past! I am all for speed limiters on transport truck traffic since the drivers seem to feel they do not need to follow highway rules of the road.

I would also be for any other type of device that would prevent them from riding so close to your bumper that you can't see their license plates, or anything other than this massive grill filling the rear window while you are already going 10 km over the speed limit and they are honking their horns at you (of course the lane next to you is also blocked so you have no where to move). There are good transport drivers out there but there are so many bad transport drivers with vehicles in poor repair (I remember one road side stop by police netted over 77% of transport trucks being pulled from the road because of serious issues with brakes, tires, wheels, etc.) that this is a serious issue. Bravo for the Ontario government for taking action to make Ontario highways safer.

No offense but I hate your Government more than I hate my own.

I agree that drivers who practice the habits you describe should be dealt with harshly. I've experienced the situation you described on the 401 and 402 as well. The speed limiters will not solve the problem though. They will actually make it worse. This is simply a way for the Government there to generate revenue at the expense of lives.

Hopefully my days as a driver are coming to a close soon though. As far as I am concerned both Countries need to experience a week without Semis.

"'Angelo's got him a hard road to travel,' Mrs. Reilly said absently. She was thinking of the PEACE TO MEN OF GOOD WILL sign that Ignatius had tacked to the front of their house after he had come home from work... 'What you think about somebody wants peace, Claude?' 'That sounds like a communiss to me.'" from A Confederacy of Dunces, John Kennedy Toole.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Or better question (IMHO), how difficult would it be to remove or bypass?

How does a speed limiter work?

Unfortunately, not all that difficult--a driver in UK got caught doing that (his lorry was "governed" to 90 km/h, or in Americanese 56 mph) a few years ago.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

How apt--when Pigtown (Toronto) actually tops L.A. on the number of days with haze/crud.

[Krikit 1,165]

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

How apt--when Pigtown (Toronto) actually tops L.A. on the number of days with haze/crud.

hogtown

[Teacher Mark 53]

Or better question (IMHO), how difficult would it be to remove or bypass?

How does a speed limiter work?

Unfortunately, not all that difficult--a driver in UK got caught doing that (his lorry was "governed" to 90 km/h, or in Americanese 56 mph) a few years ago.

It's just a matter of having the appropriate equipment. I believe they do it with a laptop (obviously with the right software). If it was real easy it wouldn't be that big of a deal for anyone coming in from outside of the Province. As it will stand now we will have to take the rig into a shop and have them do it before entering and then back in to have it turned up again. 70 mph with a 3 mile buffer would have been reasonable. Not much difference you may say? We are allowed to drive 11 hours in a 14 hour period here in the States, then we must shut down for 10. That's 55 more miles in a 70 mph State.

I'm very interested in seeing what my Company will do. Most of ours are governed at 75 mph.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

How apt--when Pigtown (Toronto) actually tops L.A. on the number of days with haze/crud.

hogtown

Eh, last I checked "pig" and "hog" are the same animal!

[Teacher Mark 53]

Communist Government?

Holy flip.. you need to get out more..

I get out quite a bit actually, including trips to the Peoples Republic of Ontario. In fact I'll be there next month. Right now I'm in the Peoples Republic of California though. I'm trying to decide which is worse. I think it's a tie.

I have to agree with you there. I find California to be just as environmentally conscious as Ontario.

How apt--when Pigtown (Toronto) actually tops L.A. on the number of days with haze/crud.

hogtown

Eh, last I checked "pig" and "hog" are the same animal!

Welcome to Swine 101:

The term swine can also refer to the pig family in a general way, and "pig" can be used in referencing young animals. "Hog" will generally refer to animals at or nearing market weight or finished for market. The term "barrow" means a neutered male, and "gilt" means a young female. Pigs are also referred to as growing pigs (40 - 125 pounds), and finishing pigs, weighing from 125 pounds to market weight--usually about 230 pounds.

http://www.goats4h.com/Pigs.html

Edited June 18, 2008 by WideAwakeInTheUSA

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Eh, last I checked "pig" and "hog" are the same animal!

Welcome to Swine 101:

The term swine can also refer to the pig family in a general way, and "pig" can be used in referencing young animals. "Hog" will generally refer to animals at or nearing market weight or finished for market. The term "barrow" means a neutered male, and "gilt" means a young female. Pigs are also referred to as growing pigs (40 - 125 pounds), and finishing pigs, weighing from 125 pounds to market weight--usually about 230 pounds.

http://www.goats4h.com/Pigs.html

True in Americanese--not Brit or Canuck English, where the three terms (swine, pig, hog) are used almost interchangeably.

[almaty 19]

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Edited June 18, 2008 by almaty

[Teacher Mark 53]

Eh, last I checked "pig" and "hog" are the same animal!

Welcome to Swine 101:

The term swine can also refer to the pig family in a general way, and "pig" can be used in referencing young animals. "Hog" will generally refer to animals at or nearing market weight or finished for market. The term "barrow" means a neutered male, and "gilt" means a young female. Pigs are also referred to as growing pigs (40 - 125 pounds), and finishing pigs, weighing from 125 pounds to market weight--usually about 230 pounds.

http://www.goats4h.com/Pigs.html

True in Americanese--not Brit or Canuck English, where the three terms (swine, pig, hog) are used almost interchangeably.

I stand corrected.