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(CNN)— Barack Obama is leading John McCain in the first General Election CNN Poll of Polls since Hillary Clinton ended her presidential bid.

Obama is ahead of McCain by five points, 46 percent to 41 percent. That’s up one point from Friday’s poll of polls, which showed the Illinois senator leading McCain 47 percent to 43 percent.

CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said, “Hillary Clinton's decision to suspend her campaign and endorse Obama seems to have produced little or no bounce for Obama.” :lol:

The fact that Obama’s lead did not increase more significantly since Clinton ended her campaign and endorsed the Illinois senator is “an indication that Clinton supporters may need more than one speech to rally behind the party's nominee,” said Holland. “Since the end of January, Obama's edge in the weekly Poll of Polls has always been in the low single digits, but it's worth noting that he has consistently been ahead of McCain week after week for about four months.”

The national General Election poll of polls has no sampling error and consists of three surveys conducted between June 12 and June 16: Gallup (June 14-16), Cook/RT Strategies (June 12-15), and ABC/Washington Post (June 12-15).

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Its only been little over a week for God's sake... :rolleyes:

The bump usually happens a day after the clinch and fades a few weeks later. It's nothing more than an enthusiasm bump that has no real substance. The fact that he didn't get one shows that the people that are already going to support him already are. All he has to look forward to is holding steady or falling support.

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Its only been little over a week for God's sake... :rolleyes:

The bump usually happens a day after the clinch and fades a few weeks later. It's nothing more than an enthusiasm bump that has no real substance. The fact that he didn't get one shows that the people that are already going to support him already are. All he has to look forward to is holding steady or falling support.

I guess we'll see.... But it seems awfully early in the day to be jumping the gun.

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so illumine who are you going to vote for?

You seem to strongly dislike and criticize obama even though he and hillary have many similarities. But you never say much about mccain, despite the fact that he has nothing in common with her.

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so illumine who are you going to vote for?

You seem to strongly dislike and criticize obama even though he and hillary have many similarities. But you never say much about mccain, despite the fact that he has nothing in common with her.

I haven't decided yet. ;)

(Not that it's any of your business.)

Its only been little over a week for God's sake... :rolleyes:

The bump usually happens a day after the clinch and fades a few weeks later. It's nothing more than an enthusiasm bump that has no real substance. The fact that he didn't get one shows that the people that are already going to support him already are. All he has to look forward to is holding steady or falling support.

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You dont have to be so dam n rude illumine??

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Anywayz, I wont take it personally, your signature and topics makes it clear to see that you are still scorn and will most likely vote for mccain out of spite!! Great way to pick a president :thumbs:

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You dont have to be so dam n rude illumine??

Please don't get offended again but I must make an observation. You get offended very easily. Any minor comment seems to set you off. Life is to short to run around mad all the time.

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You dont have to be so dam n rude illumine??

I'm not being rude. My right to vote is my own choice. I do not need to share it with anyone except the ballot box. It's called a secret ballot.

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The secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices are confidential. The key aim is to ensure the voter records a sincere choice by forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation or bribery.

The system is one means of achieving the goal of political privacy. Secret ballots are suitable for many different voting systems.

The most basic form may be blank pieces of paper, upon which each voter writes only their choice. Without revealing their vote to anyone, the voters place the ballots into a sealed box, which is emptied later for counting.

One of the most common forms in the modern world provides for pre-printed ballot papers with the name of the candidates or questions and respective checkboxes. Provisions are made at the polling place for the voter to record their preferences in secret. The ballots are specifically designed to eliminate bias and to prevent anyone from linking voter to ballot. This system is also known as the Australian ballot, because it originated in Australia during the 1850s. In the United States, it is also known as the Massachusetts ballot since Massachusetts was the first U.S. state to use the secret ballot.

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You dont have to be so dam n rude illumine??

I'm not being rude. My right to vote is my own choice. I do not need to share it with anyone except the ballot box. It's called a secret ballot.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The secret ballot is a voting method in which a voter's choices are confidential. The key aim is to ensure the voter records a sincere choice by forestalling attempts to influence the voter by intimidation or bribery.

The system is one means of achieving the goal of political privacy. Secret ballots are suitable for many different voting systems.

The most basic form may be blank pieces of paper, upon which each voter writes only their choice. Without revealing their vote to anyone, the voters place the ballots into a sealed box, which is emptied later for counting.

One of the most common forms in the modern world provides for pre-printed ballot papers with the name of the candidates or questions and respective checkboxes. Provisions are made at the polling place for the voter to record their preferences in secret. The ballots are specifically designed to eliminate bias and to prevent anyone from linking voter to ballot. This system is also known as the Australian ballot, because it originated in Australia during the 1850s. In the United States, it is also known as the Massachusetts ballot since Massachusetts was the first U.S. state to use the secret ballot.

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Exactly.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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'Danger Signs' as Clinton Supporters Resist Obama

Democratic Candidate Leads but Still Struggles to Win Over Key Groups

By JAKE TAPPER

June 17, 2008

Sen. Barack Obama has emerged from his bruising battle for the Democratic presidential nomination with only a six point lead over Sen. John McCain and claiming his Republican rival has been getting a "pass" from the media.

A ABC News/Washington Post poll shows Obama, D-Ill., leading McCain, R-Ariz., by a margin of 48 percent to 42 percent. It is a surprisingly small lead considering that the incumbent Republican president George Bush is at record lows and public opinion overwhelmingly feels the country is on the "wrong track".

No Bounce, Resistance from Clinton Supporters

The poll indicates that Obama did not get the traditional "bounce" in the public's opinion by finally defeating Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and getting her endorsement as the Democratic presidential candidate.

While leading among young voters and other key demographics, ABC News chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos saw what he called "danger signs" for Obama.

In an exclusive network interview with ABC News, Obama said that his long Democratic primary battle with Clinton, which wasn't settled until early June, spared McCain critical scrutiny.

"While we were doing that, John McCain basically was getting a pass, both from the media . . . as well as from other opponents. And so I think that explains it," said Obama of the close race.

It is an ironic accusation from Obama.

During the bitter Democratic fight, the Clinton camp repeatedly complained that Obama was getting a pass from the media.

Obama Targets Key Groups

Obama has been trying to shore up key components of the geographic and demographic components he will need to win the presidency.

He accepted the endorsement Monday night of former vice president and global warming guru Al Gore in Detroit. It was the second major endorsement Obama staged in the key state of Michigan, having announced the backing of former presidential contender John Edwards in Michigan as well.

Obama was trying to make up for lost time in the swing state because he had avoided Michigan during the primaries as the Democratic Party punished the state for holding its primary earlier than the party wanted.

Obama also tried to head off any inroads McCain might make among women voters by arguing on GMA that "on almost every single issue that's important to women, he [McCain] has been on the wrong side."

"You know, he's in favor of judges who would overturn Roe v. Wade. He has opposed equal pay," Obama said, and charged that McCain also fought a program to insure children and to protect women from discrimination.

Women, particularly married white women, however, may be a problem for Obama, according to the Washington Post/ABC poll.

It showed that McCain has a 20 point advantage over Obama among married white women, a group that George Bush also won in the last two presidential elections.

Stephanopoulos told GMA that the figure was a "danger sign" for Obama. "This is a huge gap that Obama has to close if he's going to do well."

Question of Experience

Obama faces an additional problem that only half of the voters saying he has the necessary experience to be president.

"If you look at the key question of experience, that may be what's holding him back," Stephanopoulos said. "Only 50 percent of voters say that Barack Obama has the experience to be president. A full 46 percent say, no, he doesn't have the experience . . . That's one of the reasons they are going on the foreign trips."

Obama has talked publicly about going to Iraq, but ABC News has learned that he is adding Afghanistan to his travel itinerary.

The crucial political battle appears to be shaping up around independent voters between the age of 30 and 64.

"Those middle of the road independent voters, they are breaking right down the middle," Stephanopoulos said. "This is going to be a key battleground for both campaigns going into November."

While Obama runs well among younger voters, they are not always reliable when it comes to showing up at the polls. Meanwhile, he is 12 points behind McCain among the more reliable older voters.

In addition, nearly a quarter of Clinton's voters are holding back on their support, according to the ABC News/Washington Post poll.

"If that number stays that high, it will be difficult for Barack Obama to win," Stephanopoulos said.

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You dont have to be so dam n rude illumine??

Please don't get offended again but I must make an observation. You get offended very easily. Any minor comment seems to set you off. Life is to short to run around mad all the time.

omg you don't have to be so rude gary! :P

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