McCain calls for offshore drilling, says it would help in the "short term"

[HAL 9000 96]

They can, however, trade in their Impala for a used Civic or Focus which will probably save them money in the long run. There are also carpools and the bus.

Have you tried to by a used fuel efficent car lately? I am not talking about the 5-6 thousand dollar good used car, I am talking about the really poor peoples cars that kids starting out and the low income people with bad credit buy. By the time they get down to what someone like that can afford they are so worn out they get crappy milage anyway. Face it, the high gas prices hurt the poor the most. Those of us that can afford a fuel effecient car or make enough they don't care about the milage are just annoyed with it. I always thought the dems were the poor persons champion. This doesn't sound much like it.

You don't want to give poor people healthcare but now you are concerned about their ability to drive cars?

I bought a 1985 Toyota Corolla for something like $1500 and drove it until it had about 200,000 miles on it. I then sold it to a teenage kid for $500. He is still driving it though it's a rust bucket but it still runs fine with a little TLC. It got something like 30pmg when I sold it.

There is also the bus. And carpools.

There are ways to counter high gas prices without ruining the environment.

I am pointing out that the very people that the dems say they speak for are getting hurt the worse. The bus and carpools are not always an option. Plus the other effects of high fuel prices are also hurting the poor, like food for instance. So what is it? Do the dems want to help the poor or not?

Hurt by irresponsible financial management by Democrats mainly.

Fixed that for you

I know there is a good song for that one somewhere having to do with being out of touch with reality...

[Amby 490]

apparently we have loads of oil on our land but we won't let the companies drill. do you hate me too?

[GaryC 7]

They can, however, trade in their Impala for a used Civic or Focus which will probably save them money in the long run. There are also carpools and the bus.

Have you tried to by a used fuel efficent car lately? I am not talking about the 5-6 thousand dollar good used car, I am talking about the really poor peoples cars that kids starting out and the low income people with bad credit buy. By the time they get down to what someone like that can afford they are so worn out they get crappy milage anyway. Face it, the high gas prices hurt the poor the most. Those of us that can afford a fuel effecient car or make enough they don't care about the milage are just annoyed with it. I always thought the dems were the poor persons champion. This doesn't sound much like it.

You don't want to give poor people healthcare but now you are concerned about their ability to drive cars?

I bought a 1985 Toyota Corolla for something like $1500 and drove it until it had about 200,000 miles on it. I then sold it to a teenage kid for $500. He is still driving it though it's a rust bucket but it still runs fine with a little TLC. It got something like 30pmg when I sold it.

There is also the bus. And carpools.

There are ways to counter high gas prices without ruining the environment.

I am pointing out that the very people that the dems say they speak for are getting hurt the worse. The bus and carpools are not always an option. Plus the other effects of high fuel prices are also hurting the poor, like food for instance. So what is it? Do the dems want to help the poor or not?

Hurt by irresponsible financial management by Democrats mainly.

Fixed that for you

I know there is a good song for that one somewhere having to do with being out of touch with reality...

If there is you should know it.

[HAL 9000 96]

Dunno it. Must mean the opposite of your comment is true by your logic.

[GaryC 7]

Dunno it. Must mean the opposite of your comment is true by your logic.

On most topics discussed here you wouldn't know reality if it bit you on the butt. All you know is the liberal party line which you continue to spout.

[HAL 9000 96]

Dunno it. Must mean the opposite of your comment is true by your logic.

On most topics discussed here you wouldn't know reality if it bit you on the butt. All you know is the liberal party line which you continue to spout.

Which would be?

And as opposed to... ?

[Jack and Barbara 0]

Fuel efficient cars (for under $16,500):

All cars listed are MSRP and city/highway mpg

Ford Focus -$14,395 - 24/33 mpg

Honda Fit - $13,950 - 28/34 mpg

Honda Civic - $15,010 - 30/40 mpg

Mini Cooper - $16,327 - 28/37 mpg

Nissan Sentra - $16,040 - 25/33 mpg

Toyota Corolla - $14,405 - 28/37 mpg

[HAL 9000 96]

Fuel efficient cars (for under $16,500):

All cars listed are MSRP and city/highway mpg

Ford Focus -$14,395 - 24/33 mpg

Honda Fit - $13,950 - 28/34 mpg

Honda Civic - $15,010 - 30/40 mpg

Mini Cooper - $16,327 - 28/37 mpg

Nissan Sentra - $16,040 - 25/33 mpg

Toyota Corolla - $14,405 - 28/37 mpg

All cars you can improve independently to increase fuel mileage. And substantially cheaper than 99.9% of current same-year SUVs.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

[GaryC 7]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

In what condition? That is the key.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

In what condition? That is the key.

like I said - I bought my old corolla for $1500. It was in decent shape and required no repairs other than service. Probably better than 99% of the old junkers that you claim they can't afford to fill up any more.

[HAL 9000 96]

Check out those Geo Metros too.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

In what condition? That is the key.

ask steven to check them out

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

In what condition? That is the key.

ask steven to check them out

you know when I met Steve he turned up in a Hummer? This liberal stuff he spouts is just a front

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

I have just done a search on craigslist in my area:

used corollas for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used civics for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used accords for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

used sentras for less than $2000

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ca...000&addTwo=

In what condition? That is the key.

ask steven to check them out

you know when I met Steve he turned up in a Hummer? This liberal stuff he spouts is just a front

steven you liar!