SSN for CA driving License & Banking

[MarkBUK 0]

Hi All,

I've seached the forums and I'd just like some final confirmation on the topic of SSN and AOS.

Currently, we are waiting for our Marriage certificate so we can include a copy in our AOS package which we will mail off when we receive it. I've been in the US for 6 weeks now and I've been driving regularly although my ID I have is my current UK driving license. To my knowledge, a SSN is required by the DMV in order to apply for a CA driving licence?

I've read different threads stating that because I'm on a K1 Visa I'm legally entitled to work because I'm still in the 90 day K1 period whereas others have said because I don't have my EAD yet my SS card will say I'm an alien that is not entitled to work.

Which is correct? I'd appreciate any comments on my SS status thanks! I want to obtain a license from the DMV and also be able to apply for banking/ATM cards.

[payxibka 10,045]

Hi All,

I've seached the forums and I'd just like some final confirmation on the topic of SSN and AOS.

Currently, we are waiting for our Marriage certificate so we can include a copy in our AOS package which we will mail off when we receive it. I've been in the US for 6 weeks now and I've been driving regularly although my ID I have is my current UK driving license. To my knowledge, a SSN is required by the DMV in order to apply for a CA driving licence?

I've read different threads stating that because I'm on a K1 Visa I'm legally entitled to work because I'm still in the 90 day K1 period whereas others have said because I don't have my EAD yet my SS card will say I'm an alien that is not entitled to work.

Which is correct? I'd appreciate any comments on my SS status thanks! I want to obtain a license from the DMV and also be able to apply for banking/ATM cards.

A little different, your SSN will say that is not for work without DHS authorization....

Apply before day 76 of your entry

Edited June 12, 2008 by fwaguy

[MarkBUK 0]

Hi All,

I've seached the forums and I'd just like some final confirmation on the topic of SSN and AOS.

Currently, we are waiting for our Marriage certificate so we can include a copy in our AOS package which we will mail off when we receive it. I've been in the US for 6 weeks now and I've been driving regularly although my ID I have is my current UK driving license. To my knowledge, a SSN is required by the DMV in order to apply for a CA driving licence?

I've read different threads stating that because I'm on a K1 Visa I'm legally entitled to work because I'm still in the 90 day K1 period whereas others have said because I don't have my EAD yet my SS card will say I'm an alien that is not entitled to work.

Which is correct? I'd appreciate any comments on my SS status thanks! I want to obtain a license from the DMV and also be able to apply for banking/ATM cards.

A little different, your SSN will say that is not for work without DHS authorization....

Apply before day 76 of your entry

This was taken from the SS website:

If you do not have permission to work

Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without a Social Security number. You do not need a number to conduct business with a bank, register for school, apply for educational tests, obtain private health insurance, apply for school lunch programs or apply for subsidized housing. You cannot get a Social Security number for the sole purpose of obtaining a driver’s license.

This is really the reason I thought I needed one for What does the 76 day timeline for?

[YuAndDan 153]

K-1 is work auth for the first 90 days from entry, SSA knows this and will issue an SSN with a notation "Valid with DHS auth only" this is an indication to employers to request proof of work authorization other than the SSN Card, most employers will see this and by law are required to request an I-94 card with work auth stamp, or request to see EAD or green-card.

You can apply for SSN within 76 days of entry.

See table on form I-9

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

As for DL in California, they need SSN and some form showing legal presence. They sometimes accept a "Valid I-94" card, however they set the DL expiration to that of the legal presence document, so if I-94 expires 90 days after entry so will the DL.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#BDLP

[payxibka 10,045]

Hi All,

I've seached the forums and I'd just like some final confirmation on the topic of SSN and AOS.

Currently, we are waiting for our Marriage certificate so we can include a copy in our AOS package which we will mail off when we receive it. I've been in the US for 6 weeks now and I've been driving regularly although my ID I have is my current UK driving license. To my knowledge, a SSN is required by the DMV in order to apply for a CA driving licence?

I've read different threads stating that because I'm on a K1 Visa I'm legally entitled to work because I'm still in the 90 day K1 period whereas others have said because I don't have my EAD yet my SS card will say I'm an alien that is not entitled to work.

Which is correct? I'd appreciate any comments on my SS status thanks! I want to obtain a license from the DMV and also be able to apply for banking/ATM cards.

A little different, your SSN will say that is not for work without DHS authorization....

Apply before day 76 of your entry

This was taken from the SS website:

If you do not have permission to work

Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without a Social Security number. You do not need a number to conduct business with a bank, register for school, apply for educational tests, obtain private health insurance, apply for school lunch programs or apply for subsidized housing. You cannot get a Social Security number for the sole purpose of obtaining a driver’s license.

This is really the reason I thought I needed one for What does the 76 day timeline for?

As a K-1, you are not applying for a SSN for a DL... You are applying because you are classified as an "Alien allowed to work".

SSA will not issue a SSN to anyone who is within 14 days of there work authorization expiring... Your work authorization expires 90 days after entry.. 90 -14 = 76

Edited June 12, 2008 by fwaguy

[YuAndDan 153]

One last note, many states will allow you to use your foreign driver's license until you are considered to be a resident, so if you have one from your home country you should be fine until you become a resident (Green-Card) holder.

[visao 1]

Can K-1 allow to work within the 90 days from date of entry? Can they work even if there's no EAD stamp on I-94? I have read here some posts said NO and now am seeing YES. Which one is true? Where do I find accurate info on this, any websites, links? I'm so confused. Thanks for any info.

K-1 is work auth for the first 90 days from entry, SSA knows this and will issue an SSN with a notation "Valid with DHS auth only" this is an indication to employers to request proof of work authorization other than the SSN Card, most employers will see this and by law are required to request an I-94 card with work auth stamp, or request to see EAD or green-card.

You can apply for SSN within 76 days of entry.

See table on form I-9

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

As for DL in California, they need SSN and some form showing legal presence. They sometimes accept a "Valid I-94" card, however they set the DL expiration to that of the legal presence document, so if I-94 expires 90 days after entry so will the DL.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#BDLP

[YuAndDan 153]

Can K-1 allow to work within the 90 days from date of entry? Can they work even if there's no EAD stamp on I-94? I have read here some posts said NO and now am seeing YES. Which one is true? Where do I find accurate info on this, any websites, links? I'm so confused. Thanks for any info.

K-1 is work auth for the first 90 days from entry, SSA knows this and will issue an SSN with a notation "Valid with DHS auth only" this is an indication to employers to request proof of work authorization other than the SSN Card, most employers will see this and by law are required to request an I-94 card with work auth stamp, or request to see EAD or green-card.

You can apply for SSN within 76 days of entry.

See table on form I-9

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

As for DL in California, they need SSN and some form showing legal presence. They sometimes accept a "Valid I-94" card, however they set the DL expiration to that of the legal presence document, so if I-94 expires 90 days after entry so will the DL.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#BDLP

Look at form I-9 it indicates that if the SSN does NOT have the "With DHS auth" notation on it, then it and a photo ID are fine for work authorization.

BUT K-1 will get an SSN card WITH that notation, so SSN card is not acceptable as proof of work authoization. Only an I-94 With EAD stamp, EAD card, OR green-card are acceptable evidence of work authorization when presented with SSN card with the disclaimer.

Also not many employers would higher someone that is only authorized to work for less than 90 days.

I like to say:

K-1 is not a work visa, it is a fiancee visa for entry to the USA and marriage, K-1 is "Work Auth" primarily to be able to get the SSN, some states are strict in their interpretation of a federal law that requires persons applying for a "license" to have SSN, this can cause a problem with marriage license if only one person has SSN and the other (the K-1 holder) does not.

[visao 1]

Can K-1 allow to work within the 90 days from date of entry? Can they work even if there's no EAD stamp on I-94? I have read here some posts said NO and now am seeing YES. Which one is true? Where do I find accurate info on this, any websites, links? I'm so confused. Thanks for any info.

K-1 is work auth for the first 90 days from entry, SSA knows this and will issue an SSN with a notation "Valid with DHS auth only" this is an indication to employers to request proof of work authorization other than the SSN Card, most employers will see this and by law are required to request an I-94 card with work auth stamp, or request to see EAD or green-card.

You can apply for SSN within 76 days of entry.

See table on form I-9

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

As for DL in California, they need SSN and some form showing legal presence. They sometimes accept a "Valid I-94" card, however they set the DL expiration to that of the legal presence document, so if I-94 expires 90 days after entry so will the DL.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#BDLP

Look at form I-9 it indicates that if the SSN does NOT have the "With DHS auth" notation on it, then it and a photo ID are fine for work authorization.

BUT K-1 will get an SSN card WITH that notation, so SSN card is not acceptable as proof of work authoization. Only an I-94 With EAD stamp, EAD card, OR green-card are acceptable evidence of work authorization when presented with SSN card with the disclaimer.

Also not many employers would higher someone that is only authorized to work for less than 90 days.

I like to say:

K-1 is not a work visa, it is a fiancee visa for entry to the USA and marriage, K-1 is "Work Auth" primarily to be able to get the SSN, some states are strict in their interpretation of a federal law that requires persons applying for a "license" to have SSN, this can cause a problem with marriage license if only one person has SSN and the other (the K-1 holder) does not.

So, can't work till EAD arrives or EAD stamp in I-94???