Permanent Resident

[mathlady 0]

I guess every country is different regarding entering and exiting, but here in the USA, the US immigration only has a record of your entry, not departure (unless they check with all airlines!). I bet many people who have overstayed outside the USA have said they stayed shorter time. Assuming you never become a US citizen, then you will be fine.

[Boiler 46,109]

I guess every country is different regarding entering and exiting, but here in the USA, the US immigration only has a record of your entry, not departure (unless they check with all airlines!). I bet many people who have overstayed outside the USA have said they stayed shorter time. Assuming you never become a US citizen, then you will be fine.

I believe giing advise sic to lie to Immigration is against the terms of service of this site.

Reminds me of the guy who overstayed, he had dual citizenship so tried to enter on his other passport, ended in tears. They are nbot quite that stupid.

[Mononoke28 135]

I guess every country is different regarding entering and exiting, but here in the USA, the US immigration only has a record of your entry, not departure (unless they check with all airlines!). I bet many people who have overstayed outside the USA have said they stayed shorter time. Assuming you never become a US citizen, then you will be fine.

It sounds to me like you already have your mind made up regarding this issue, and feel pretty confident that you can outsmart the US government regarding your legal entry to the US after a several year absence.

I hope you can pull it off for the sake of everyone involved and good luck with everything.

Diana

[fpvt2 0]

I know someone who travelled outside the US for 2 months, when they came back the immigration asked how long they were outside the country.

Since their English was not good, they misunderstood the question, and they answered 9 months.

The immigration then put a stamp on their passport that said they were outside the country for 9 months, even though the correct time is 2 months.

So, it looks to me that at least at the airport, they did not have the information on how long you are outside the country.

Although, I am sure that information is available somewhere.

[Cassie 8]

I guess every country is different regarding entering and exiting, but here in the USA, the US immigration only has a record of your entry, not departure (unless they check with all airlines!). I bet many people who have overstayed outside the USA have said they stayed shorter time. Assuming you never become a US citizen, then you will be fine.

You still have to prove residency when renewing your GC.

You do what you want. Don't be surprised if it comes around to bite you in the butt.

[Staashi 371]

Based on the USCIS website, you might be denied entry upon returning to the US. If you never got a re-entry permit and now try to come back with being gone for more than two or more years, they can deny you as you have committed abandonment. Actually, abandonment doesn’t even have to be more than one year or two years…they can put you into abandonment proceedings for less time – it is all subjective to what USCIS determines.

Furthermore, all passports, even though they might not be stamped, are scanned at airports in the reader that spins the passport around. That reader’s data is then fed into a main data system that stores it for times just like this. Did you ever stop to think when in the movies someone says, “______ just entered the country.” It wasn’t because there was a lookout…it was the data system. Nowadays, countries monitor entrance and exit of all people (unless they are illegally crossing a border)…the stamp in your passport is basically for your records, not immigration’s – because they have access to electronic data of your goings and comings.

This is from the USCIS website…and from the way it looks, you might be S.O.L…

Maintaining Permanent Residence

You may lose your permanent residence status if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law in section 237 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. If you commit such an act, you may be brought before the immigration courts to determine your right to remain a Permanent Resident.

You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you:

• Move to another country intending to live there permanently.

• Remain outside of the US for more than one year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.

• Remain outside of the US for more than two years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.

• Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the US for any period.

• Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns.

You play it how you want to, but don't be surprised if it ends up biting you in the booty.

[mathlady 0]

Oh, I would definetly would be taking that risk. Mexicans do it all the time. I know some who live in Mexico and are green card holders who also receive social security and medical benefits and all they need is to have an address here in the USA which many of them do by using their relatives or friends who collect the mail. When I called the Social Security Administration and Police to turn in some of them for collecting Social Security, never worked in the USA and living in Mexico, to my surprise they told me they don't have time to investigate that becasue is not a big crime and because they are using an address here in USA and that is enough for them. They said that as long as the address is current (the mail does not get returned), then that is the proof of residency!!!

[Boiler 46,109]

Pot calling the kettle black.

[Staashi 371]

Pot calling the kettle black.

[Cassie 8]

Oh, I would definetly would be taking that risk. Mexicans do it all the time. I know some who live in Mexico and are green card holders who also receive social security and medical benefits and all they need is to have an address here in the USA which many of them do by using their relatives or friends who collect the mail. When I called the Social Security Administration and Police to turn in some of them for collecting Social Security, never worked in the USA and living in Mexico, to my surprise they told me they don't have time to investigate that becasue is not a big crime and because they are using an address here in USA and that is enough for them. They said that as long as the address is current (the mail does not get returned), then that is the proof of residency!!!

So why bother asking the question when you already have a "plan" in place?

Again, karma's a pain when it's biting you in the butt.

[Glyn and Kathy 288]

Oh, I would definetly would be taking that risk. Mexicans do it all the time. I know some who live in Mexico and are green card holders who also receive social security and medical benefits and all they need is to have an address here in the USA which many of them do by using their relatives or friends who collect the mail. When I called the Social Security Administration and Police to turn in some of them for collecting Social Security, never worked in the USA and living in Mexico, to my surprise they told me they don't have time to investigate that becasue is not a big crime and because they are using an address here in USA and that is enough for them. They said that as long as the address is current (the mail does not get returned), then that is the proof of residency!!!

UNBELIEVABLE. One of the reasons its so difficult to bring our loved ones over legally is because of idiots who think they are smarter than the law and choose to ignore it. Makes my blood boil.

Edited June 16, 2008 by Glyn and Kathy

[Staashi 371]

Oh, I would definetly would be taking that risk. Mexicans do it all the time. I know some who live in Mexico and are green card holders who also receive social security and medical benefits and all they need is to have an address here in the USA which many of them do by using their relatives or friends who collect the mail. When I called the Social Security Administration and Police to turn in some of them for collecting Social Security, never worked in the USA and living in Mexico, to my surprise they told me they don't have time to investigate that becasue is not a big crime and because they are using an address here in USA and that is enough for them. They said that as long as the address is current (the mail does not get returned), then that is the proof of residency!!!

Actually, I'm sorry to inform you, but you're incorrect about this. It is impossible to collect Social Security if you've never worked in the USA. You actually have to have worked for 10 years in the US to collect the retirement benefit. There are many Mexicans and Latin Americans, who have worked for years in the US, built a retirement, and paid into social security, but due to rising costs of retirement and health benefits, have chosen to retire to their homelands. Some are LPRs, some are citizens, the LPRs can conceivably do this if they continue to maintain a residence here, come back to the US every so often and file an income tax return. The ones that became citizens, can live anywhere they want and don't have to come back to the US to visit.