What will you do when the rioters arrive in YOUR neighborhood?

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

i am buying a new Judge gun made by tarus..shoots 45 longs and 410 shells...a pistol...

WAIT. Deano is a gun owner??????? :crying:

you didn't know that?

No. Nobody told me and I trusted this man with my mental health....

just consider it an incentive to take the meds he prescribes.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

i am buying a new Judge gun made by tarus..shoots 45 longs and 410 shells...a pistol...

WAIT. Deano is a gun owner??????? :crying:

you didn't know that?

No. Nobody told me and I trusted this man with my mental health....

just consider it an incentive to take the meds he prescribes.

I am broken hearted. Nothing will be the same. I will join the rioters now. :crying:

[Peikko 1,575]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

His motivation really doesn't have any relevance and the reality of what happened rather supports my theory than yours. According to you, he unknowingly went up against a larger force, you are suggesting that one should do this knowing that you have a huge disadvantage in numbers? That makes your advice even less useful.

[justashooter 430]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

custer's big mistake was in leaving the gatling guns on post. he decided that their wagons and caissons were too slow on the trail. if he had been in posession of one gatling, history would read differently.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

His motivation really doesn't have any relevance and the reality of what happened rather supports my theory than yours. According to you, he unknowingly went up against a larger force, you are suggesting that one should do this knowing that you have a huge disadvantage in numbers? That makes your advice even less useful.

that's right, dismiss the facts leading up to it all.

also dismiss the fact that he was the invader in the neighborhood too

you

[Peikko 1,575]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

custer's big mistake was in leaving the gatling guns on post. he decided that their wagons and caissons were too slow on the trail. if he had been in posession of one gatling, history would read differently.

How many people possess the modern equivalent of the Gatling gun in their homes these days? Oh, that would be no one so back to the main point, that it's foolhardy to engage with an overwhelmingly superior numeric force. That's even supposing that what you say is true. Without going back in time and trying it out well, we don't know what the outcome would be, pure speculation is not really the good basis for a hypothesis, particularly if you life and that of your family is at stake.

Edited January 29, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Peikko 1,575]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

His motivation really doesn't have any relevance and the reality of what happened rather supports my theory than yours. According to you, he unknowingly went up against a larger force, you are suggesting that one should do this knowing that you have a huge disadvantage in numbers? That makes your advice even less useful.

that's right, dismiss the facts leading up to it all.

also dismiss the fact that he was the invader in the neighborhood too

you

Nice graphic, but that doesn't really alter my point that engaging with overwhelmingly superior numbers of apposing forces even with superior weapons is at best foolhardy and at worst fatal.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

How many people possess the modern equivalent of the Gatling gun in their homes these days? Oh, that would be no one so back to the main point, that it's foolhardy to engage with an overwhelmingly superior numeric force.

no, it's not. do you have a clue what you are talking about?

Nice graphic, but that doesn't really alter my point that engaging with overwhelmingly superior numbers of apposing forces even with superior weapons is at best foolhardy and at worst fatal.

thankfully you're just an amateur.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

custer's big mistake was in leaving the gatling guns on post. he decided that their wagons and caissons were too slow on the trail. if he had been in posession of one gatling, history would read differently.

Custer didn't have a chance even if he hadn't split his forces.

Corporal Benteen (?) who saved what he could realised early on that he couldn't help Custer and pragmatically saved what he could, yet is still regarded in some circles as a disgraceful figure.

[Rocky_nBullwinkle 6]

Nice graphic, but that doesn't really alter my point that engaging with overwhelmingly superior numbers of apposing forces even with superior weapons is at best foolhardy and at worst fatal.

It's called a "raid", and the purpose is to fix and harrass a superior force!

--Bullwinkle

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That is the question. How do you stave off an angry mob from destroying your home? There's really nothing you can do if the numbers are large. Best to get out of the home and try to leave unnoticed.

claymores

Worked pretty well for Will Smith in that Legend movie.

What p!$es me off about this thread is the general concensus is "I'd leave my home and all my possessions behind and let an angry mob of law-breaking people destroy my life." What kind of society have we become? Why would we ever allow people to break the law and break our stuff at the same time?

Have we come to the point where "their feelings" are more important than our Rights?

Hey look the 'Custer' mentality is alive and kicking! Good job we all learn from history isn't it?

As for what has society become - perhaps you can point me to this 'golden age' when people always did the 'right thing'?

i'm failing to see how custer winds up in this.

You are failing to see a parallel between a small armed force standing up to a massive, slightly less well armed force? I guess your military brain is having a little bit of a meltdown. That's 'if' the 'mob' is less well armed...getting overwhelmed is not an unusual scenario. Those that cut and run and live to fight another day are not necessarily cowards or idiots.

i'm failing to see how custer became an example due to:

- custer went looking for trouble

- custer thought he had superiority in numbers

- custer split his forces.

- he got his azz handed to him due to a lack of scouting.

not exactly a good history choice for what you are talking about, is it? would you care to try to find a better example?

yeah, i'm a former member of the 7th cav, btw

custer's big mistake was in leaving the gatling guns on post. he decided that their wagons and caissons were too slow on the trail. if he had been in posession of one gatling, history would read differently.

How many people possess the modern equivalent of the Gatling gun in their homes these days? Oh, that would be no one so back to the main point, that it's foolhardy to engage with an overwhelmingly superior numeric force. That's even supposing that what you say is true. Without going back in time and trying it out well, we don't know what the outcome would be, pure speculation is not really the good basis for a hypothesis, particularly if you life and that of your family is at stake.

Well the Romans did it a few times, as did Alexander the Great and others (of course by the same token they suffered appalling losses in others), but that's getting pretty far from the point.

Custer didn't know what he was doing, was ill-informed and had little idea of the strength and disposition of the enemy forces.

Of course its hard to compare the average person barricaded in their house with their shotguns, pistols or what have you with say - Rourkes Drift.

[sara..... 371]

i am buying a new Judge gun made by tarus..shoots 45 longs and 410 shells...a pistol...

my younger brother has been talking about one of them but i have never even seen a pic of one yet

[Kevin and 10]

How many people possess the modern equivalent of the Gatling gun in their homes these days? Oh, that would be no one so back to the main point, that it's foolhardy to engage with an overwhelmingly superior numeric force. That's even supposing that what you say is true. Without going back in time and trying it out well, we don't know what the outcome would be, pure speculation is not really the good basis for a hypothesis, particularly if you life and that of your family is at stake.

I know someone that owns a Maxim, MG42, 1919, various rifles and sub machine guns. He also owns a tank.

BTW- The MG42 kicks azz.

[Peikko 1,575]

Clearly, the person with the tank is the person to hide behind.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Shoot first, ask questions later. A man's home is his castle.