Bush and Cheney Are Liars And War Criminals.

[zqt3344 21]

Congress is to blame, they enabled the executive branch and looked at the same intelligence and information as the White House did. Lay the blame where it belongs, on Congress. For without their approval it would never have happened.

Hey Olberman why don't you pay your back taxes that you owe in NY, before you start casting stones, talk about a hypocrite and a phony, this guy has zero credibility! THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD! Then they need to impeach the entire Congress at the time and that includes all those dove loving Democrats for voting to go along with Bush and Cheney. No buyers remorse now.

Impeaching either side of Congress who supported the Iraq war (even though Congress did not formally declare war, that was the Executive branch) does not make sense when they voted for the war based on misinformation from the executive branch and several federal agencies (Ex. CIA). If anything, it would be those who gave misleading and/or knowledgable fiction to members of Congress to make their case who should be impeached.

Actually, it looks like the legislation to impeach will be introduced.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kuc...each/index.html

The Senate also didn't read a lot of the intelligence reports - I believe that was in one of the stories a while back. But I agree that the rotten core for this sorry mess are the folks in the White House.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Congress is to blame - As well.

Though GWB does himself no favors in being one of - if not the - worst President in US history. If he were halfway honest or competent people might cut him some slack. But if he were honest and competent - we likely wouldn't be in the position we're faced with now.

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

i suppose this thread is just what left wing chest beaters need.

[zqt3344 21]

Agreed!

Congress is to blame - As well.

Though GWB does himself no favors in being one of - if not the - worst President in US history. If he were halfway honest or competent people might cut him some slack. But if he were honest and competent - we likely wouldn't be in the position we're faced with now.

[HAL 9000 96]

Hey it takes two to tango.

Like its said... we deserve those whom we vote for.

[SaadBell 0]

Congress is to blame, they enabled the executive branch and looked at the same intelligence and information as the White House did. Lay the blame where it belongs, on Congress. For without their approval it would never have happened

What part don’t you understand? THEY LIED, made things up, made the situation look bleak, this just came out. Most of congresses are not privilege to know the lies that Bush and his friends were spewing. So they voted based on the information they were given, now who is the one that lied? They based their decision of war on some bullshit Bush and his criminal friends told them. So blame congress, that is plain nonsense.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Congress is to blame, they enabled the executive branch and looked at the same intelligence and information as the White House did. Lay the blame where it belongs, on Congress. For without their approval it would never have happened

What part don’t you understand? THEY LIED, made things up, made the situation look bleak, this just came out. Most of congresses are not privilege to know the lies that Bush and his friends were spewing. So they voted based on the information they were given, now who is the one that lied? They based their decision of war on some bullshit Bush and his criminal friends told them. So blame congress, that is plain nonsense.

Well there was the report a while back suggesting that a lot of senators didn't read a lot of the information they were presented with. In all fairness they did drop the ball a bit on that one.

[SaadBell 0]

Remember the atmosphere at the time of the vote on Iraq, people were scared, American wanted blood, and with Bush telling the world that this is what we needed to do, it is easy to get caught up in mob mentally. The fact is they lied; they just came out and stated this last week. Why do we let the president of the United States lie about this and let him get away with it, and now to blame the congress, priceless. Most of congress did not have the correct information on Iraq, that is a stated fact, so how could they make a fair decision when they were presented with a bunch of bullshit?

Why did we invade Iraq? Was it because, as the White House claimed, Saddam Hussein was an immediate and serious threat to America. Or did Bush mislead the public, the Congress and the UN by consistently overstating this threat. Bush claims he was forced to to invade Iraq as a last resort. But Bush wanted to invade Iraq from the very beginning of his presidency. Many of his team came from the PNAC, a thinktank which urged the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and pointed out the need for a "new Pearl Harbor". “From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime,” says Ron Suskind. “Day one, these things were laid and sealed.”

This is not a situation where Bush said ten things and one of them was wrong. Basically everything Bush said about the threat from Iraq was false. He had no solid evidence of any threat but still led us into this deadly and costly war. Here are the main lies about the threat from Iraq given by Bush and Cheney:

Lie #1 - Uranium from Niger - Bush said "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." in his State of the Union Address. The documents supporting that statement were forged.

Lie #2 - Iraq and 9/11 - Bush led people to believe that Iraq was involved with 9/11 by repeatedly linking them in his speeches. This was so effective that at one point 70% of Americans actually believed Saddam was behind 9/11. Bush has since admitted that this was not true.

Lie #3 - Congress Knew - Bush has stated that Congress had access to all the same information that the White House had. Thus he should not be blamed for making the mistake of going to war. But Bush was briefed many times about the falsehood of various stories and this information never reached Congress.

Lie #4 - Aluminum Tubes - Bush, Cheney, Rice and Powell said that some aluminum tubes Iraq attempted to buy were intended for use in a uranium centrifuge to create nuclear weapons. These were the only physical evidence he had against Iraq. But it turns out this evidence had been rejected by the Department of Energy and other intelligence agencies long before Bush used them in his speeches.

Lie #5 - Iraq and Al Qaeda - Bush still insists that there was a "relationship" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. But the 9/11 Commission released a report saying, among other things, that there was no "collaborative relationship" between Al Qaeda and Iraq. The nature of the relationship seems to be that Al Qaeda asked for help and Iraq refused. Al Qaeda was opposed to Saddam Hussein because Saddam led a secular government instead of an Islamic government. [ZNet] [CNN] On 9/8/06 a Senate panel reported there was no relationship.

Lie #6 - Weapons of Mass Destruction - Bush insisted that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction but his "evidence" consisted mostly of forged documents, plagiarized student papers, and vague satellite photos. The United Nations was on the ground in Iraq and could find nothing. After extensive searches Bush was finally forced to admit that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.

Lie #7 - Mobile Weapons Labs - Bush and his team repeatedly claimed that Iraq possessed mobile weapons labs capable of producing anthrax. Colin Powell showed diagrams of them at his speech before the UN to justify invading Iraq. These claims originated from Curveball, a discredited Iraqi informer who fed Bush many of the stories related to WMD. On May 29, 2003, two small trailers matching the description were found in Iraq. A team of bio-weapons experts examined the trailers and concluded they were simply designed to produce hydrogen for weather balloons. But, for over a year, Bush claimed these were part of Iraq's bio-weapons program. The expert's report was suppressed and only recently made public.

Bush wanted so much to convince people of the need to invade Iraq that the White House set up a secret team in the Pentagon to create evidence. The Office of Special Plans routinely rewrote the CIA's intelligence estimates on Iraq's weapons programs, removing caveats such as "likely," "probably" and "may" as a way of depicting the country as an imminent threat. They also used unreliable sources to create reports that ultimately proved to be false.

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[Teacher Mark 53]

i suppose this thread is just what left wing chest beaters need.

McCain has been the one I wanted to see as President since I first became aware of him in 1991. The current administration has bungled things so badly that I could not vote for any G.O.P. candidate in the foreseeable future.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

i suppose this thread is just what left wing chest beaters need.

McCain has been the one I wanted to see as President since I first became aware of him in 1991. The current administration has bungled things so badly that I could not vote for any G.O.P. candidate in the foreseeable future.

I would have supported the John McCain of 1999 / 2000. Since he flip flopped his way on most issues over to Bush's GOP, he became unelectable. No vote for Bush's Poodle.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

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