The Audacity of the Democrats

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[zqt3344 21]

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[zqt3344 21]

What is rubbish, the liberal lava you spew forth or the fact Obama is unpatriotic to the USA?

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[HAL 9000 96]

Man all this unpatriotic drivel is gonna be hilarious when he most likely takes the Oath in 2009.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Don't you feel funny to be labeling a voting record as far left while not having any quips over a voting record that would be considered far right? You (and a few others) keep getting tripped over your ideological viewpoint on issues that your blind to the reality of what American voters want or are willing to try at this point in time. I remember in the early 90's, the country had moved more to the right in terms of many policy issues, but laying stake in that notion is reckless. FDR would have never been able to pull off the New Deal (talk about a leftist policy) without the will of the people and it was what our country needed at that time. You can try to argue over the merits of whether a particular policy is valid or not, but the idea that American voters will shy away from a policy or even a candidate based on ideology is fruitless. It's the sign of the times and this time in our history is not 1994.

McCain was never in the far right in the Republican Party and has been at odds with Bush on a lot of issues. By contrast, Obama had no real ideological disagreements with Hilliary. Hmm, the country moved right in the early 1990s but voted for Clinton anyway? Do you know what you're saying? Was it a case of reverse voter psychology on a grand scale? The New Deal was a public relations stunt that never significantly reduced unemployment.

Check out congressional ratings and you'll get some conflicting voting records.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008

http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings...o2=desc#results

http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings...o2=desc#results

http://www.adaction.org/media/votingrecords/2007.pdf

So you're equally repulsed by far right or conservative voting trends of any candidate? I think you missed my point...liberal voting records aren't any more a stain on a candidate's reputation than a conservative voting record in the minds of most voting Americans...at least in this point in history. Context is everything. FDR's New Deal was welcomed by Americans in a time when they felt they had nothing else to turn to. I realize some hardcore rightwingers contend that FDR did a disservice to this country with the New Deal, but for most reasonably minded Americans who know enough about that part in history, have a positive view that government can and should address some of society's problems. Fear mongering and the Red Scare just isn't going to push Americans into voting for McCain. They are looking at the problems we are facing today and want solutions. Obama's voting record in the eyes of the American voter will be measured based on the merits of each individual piece of legislation, not whether that legislation he voted for has been labelled, 'liberal'.

What a total boat load of BS! Do you really believe the tripe you keep shoveling out? The New Deal prolonged the depression for your information. Much of it was declared unconstitutional.

Obama doesn't just have a liberal voting record. He has the hardest left voting record of any current senator. By anyones definition that makes him a radical. Quit trying to sound like some sort of a political science teacher Steven. Your not pulling it off very well. And the BS your shoveling isn't covering up the stench of Obama.

Gary, you can leave out the insults. Since your above posts adds nothing to the argument, I'll let that last post of mine speak for itself.

[zqt3344 21]

It will be a cold day in hell when that happens.....

Man all this unpatriotic drivel is gonna be hilarious when he most likely takes the Oath in 2009.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well in this context "rubbish" would be taking something as spurious as that flag-lapel pin / hand over heart rubbish from Talk Radio as a serious point.

Hey if you think drumming up that stuff validates your arguments - please carry on. Personally - I think it makes you look (not a little) irrational.

What is rubbish, the liberal lava you spew forth or the fact Obama is unpatriotic to the USA?

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[SaadBell 0]

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

You are talking sensible now, try not to do that ok Go get yourself a nuke and lock your doors and load up on guns, and get yourself a good medical book so you can do your own operations, and treatments, cause we should not give heatlh care to anybody period, take care of your damn self. Don't make sense, throw out all kind of rubbish, like Obama is really an alien.

It is nice to see someone with common sense.

[zqt3344 21]

Tell that to all the Americans that can vote and will be voting for McCain this year, you will get to see if they think it is rubbish as you imagine.

Well in this context "rubbish" would be taking something as spurious as that flag-lapel pin / hand over heart rubbish from Talk Radio as a serious point.

Hey if you think drumming up that stuff validates your arguments - please carry on. Personally - I think it makes you look (not a little) irrational.

What is rubbish, the liberal lava you spew forth or the fact Obama is unpatriotic to the USA?

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[Peikko 1,575]

I expect more from McCain supporters than voting as a consequence of percieved patriotism.

Tell that to all the Americans that can vote and will be voting for McCain this year, you will get to see if they think it is rubbish as you imagine.

Well in this context "rubbish" would be taking something as spurious as that flag-lapel pin / hand over heart rubbish from Talk Radio as a serious point.

Hey if you think drumming up that stuff validates your arguments - please carry on. Personally - I think it makes you look (not a little) irrational.

What is rubbish, the liberal lava you spew forth or the fact Obama is unpatriotic to the USA?

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's a fairly good guess that intelligent people who don't want Obama for President will base their voting decision on more substantial reasoning than puerile (not to mentioned discredited) nonsense.

Tell that to all the Americans that can vote and will be voting for McCain this year, you will get to see if they think it is rubbish as you imagine.

Well in this context "rubbish" would be taking something as spurious as that flag-lapel pin / hand over heart rubbish from Talk Radio as a serious point.

Hey if you think drumming up that stuff validates your arguments - please carry on. Personally - I think it makes you look (not a little) irrational.

What is rubbish, the liberal lava you spew forth or the fact Obama is unpatriotic to the USA?

Well if that's what you want to believe go right ahead. You're already neck deep in self-delusion for even posting that rubbish, I imagine nothing I say will make much of a difference.

Ok so you admit he is unpatriotic and anti-American and refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

How come Ovomit never wears a USA flag lapel pin? Is he anti-American and unpatriotic? And how come he will not put his hand over his heart and pledge allegiance to the USA flag?

indeed.

Why? Because all that particular material amounts to is a pair of donkey's knackers.

If you're going to criticize Obama - at least stick to something substantial rather than Talk Radio propaganda. Fixating on rubbish like that reflects more on you than you might imagine.

[HAL 9000 96]

It will be a cold day in hell when that happens.....

Man all this unpatriotic drivel is gonna be hilarious when he most likely takes the Oath in 2009.

Well if it does make sure you take a good coat along with a good quantity of Xanax.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I guess the irony should be pointed out that claiming to know how people will vote and why requires a degree of audacity in itself.