Why John McCain could still beat Barack Obama in presidential race

[zqt3344 21]

Right whatever, Ovomit does not offer that, you only like him and other countries like him for the perceive him as being weak and soft and easily manipulated unlike current president. Well one thing is true, the only thing Ovomit can do is give a speech. That is it. Ovomit could not ride a tricycle, come on get real, what is this bike rider BS, eh!

McCain is a liberal republican and that is why he lost the last time he ran for president. If people think the next president regardless if it is Obama or McCain are going to turn things around and make the country grow at the rate it did in the last 20+ years they are crazy. The best thing we can hope for is someone who won't make things worse and that will keep us on a path of economic growth.

I think the best we can hope for is someone who can possibly mend the shredded relations we have with all other countries on the planet. That's a no-brainer...only Obama has that potential. Plus, with his excellent oratory skills, I'm sure he can tell Mexico and Canada to stick NAFTA up their arses in such a way that they think it's a good idea. I suppose he should tell the Auto Union (UAW) to go screw itself as well. Wait....it already HAS screwed itself. There's a reason GM, Ford, and Chrysler built factories in Mexico and Canada.....no unions. Ergo, no idiot making $37.00/hour to install ashtrays in GM trucks. It's a basic assembly line....no one should be making over $20.00/hour. The people who build HP computers make $6.50/hour.....which is more difficult?

So, I think Obama is our best bet. He's the polar opposite of "W" when it comes to public speaking. Wouldn't it be nice to not look like idiots to the rest of the planet for a change?

McCain would only make our strained international relations even worse.

Oh, and let's actually get serious about alternative fuels, rather than just some feel good ####### to appease the populace while raking in the oil dollars. No reliance on foreign oil = a more prosperous America. Again, only a Democrat is going to lead the country that direction. Obama is a bike rider AND a Democrat, so maybe we'll see a funding package for the construction of bike "highways" for easier commuting.

Hey, a guy can dream, eh?

[Teacher Mark 53]

Exactly. They don't want partisan rhetoric...they want things to change for the better.

want change? try looking here.

Actually, I'm doing better than I ever have financially. It seems I'm the exception to the rule though.

I saw Harry Truman referenced in an earlier post. I often wonder where it is that the "buck stops" in this administration. I'm finding it a bit amusing to listen to my fellow Truckers on the C.B. and on Sirius. Suddenly they are on Bushes a$$. Owner Operators are going under in record numbers now. It's really sad because these guys have worked hard to carve out a little piece of the American dream. It looks like diesel might hit $6.00 a gallon before the summer is over. I think that there may actually be significant strikes if it rises above $6.00.

[mawilson 2,133]

Actually, I'm doing better than I ever have financially. It seems I'm the exception to the rule though.

I don't think you are. Most people I know do too.

[zqt3344 21]

We are all doing better now and much better off under GW Bush and we should all be thankful for his leadership economically. Get her done, get out there and work for a change and see what happens. Sure things cost more now but we are all making more money now and worth more than ever! Viva GW Bush!

Actually, I'm doing better than I ever have financially. It seems I'm the exception to the rule though.

I don't think you are. Most people I know do too.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

The other effect the President has is his vetoing power and the sitting President has vetoed more legislation than any other president in history.

WHAT??? GWB has hardly vetoed anything at all.

Franklin Roosevelt vetoes: 635

Harry Truman vetoes: 250

Dwight Eisenhower vetoes: 181

John Kennedy vetoes: 21

Lyndon Johnson vetoes: 30

Richard Nixon vetoes: 43

Gerald Ford vetoes: 66

Jimmy Carter vetoes: 31

Ronald Reagan vetoes: 78

George H. W. Bush vetoes: 44

Bill Clinton vetoes: 37

George W. Bush vetoes: 10

10 outta 8 years, just over one a year. not bad

[GaryC 7]

What exactly are the "failing Bush economic policies"?

Why don't you ask Doug Holtz-Eakin (McCain's domestic policy adviser) that question? Somehow, McCain's campaign is busier campaigning against W's economic policies - with the exception of tax policy - than against Obama's.

The only thing he [McCain] shares in common with President Bush is the understanding of good tax policy. ...Sadly, it seems that's all President Bush understood on the economy.

So how does this make McCain Bush's poodle? It seems he isn't. Be consistent Dog!

I am consistent. McSame is Bush's Poodle. I have made no claim to the contrary. McCain's domestic policy adviser has made claims to the contrary in an effort to cloud the fact that McSame would continue on Bush's failed path. To do that, McCain's campaign is making a claim that Bush's economic policy stinks. They're campaigning against the very policies that they clearly intend to carry forward.

All Hail the Double Talk Express.

Now wait, he has fought Bush on the conduct of the war. He has said the only thing economically that he agrees with Bush on is the taxes, just what makes him Bush's poodle? Other than of course your desire to paint him as Bush. Face it. McCain is the one republican that isn't in step with Bush. That is precisely why he can beat Carter 2.0.

[PlatyPius 5]

Right whatever, Ovomit does not offer that, you only like him and other countries like him for the perceive him as being weak and soft and easily manipulated unlike current president. Well one thing is true, the only thing Ovomit can do is give a speech. That is it. Ovomit could not ride a tricycle, come on get real, what is this bike rider BS, eh!

McCain is a liberal republican and that is why he lost the last time he ran for president. If people think the next president regardless if it is Obama or McCain are going to turn things around and make the country grow at the rate it did in the last 20+ years they are crazy. The best thing we can hope for is someone who won't make things worse and that will keep us on a path of economic growth.

I think the best we can hope for is someone who can possibly mend the shredded relations we have with all other countries on the planet. That's a no-brainer...only Obama has that potential. Plus, with his excellent oratory skills, I'm sure he can tell Mexico and Canada to stick NAFTA up their arses in such a way that they think it's a good idea. I suppose he should tell the Auto Union (UAW) to go screw itself as well. Wait....it already HAS screwed itself. There's a reason GM, Ford, and Chrysler built factories in Mexico and Canada.....no unions. Ergo, no idiot making $37.00/hour to install ashtrays in GM trucks. It's a basic assembly line....no one should be making over $20.00/hour. The people who build HP computers make $6.50/hour.....which is more difficult?

So, I think Obama is our best bet. He's the polar opposite of "W" when it comes to public speaking. Wouldn't it be nice to not look like idiots to the rest of the planet for a change?

McCain would only make our strained international relations even worse.

Oh, and let's actually get serious about alternative fuels, rather than just some feel good ####### to appease the populace while raking in the oil dollars. No reliance on foreign oil = a more prosperous America. Again, only a Democrat is going to lead the country that direction. Obama is a bike rider AND a Democrat, so maybe we'll see a funding package for the construction of bike "highways" for easier commuting.

Hey, a guy can dream, eh?

Were you actually born brain damaged, or did you give yourself a frontal lobotomy with a blender and a salad fork?

[zqt3344 21]

WEll actually I had a bike riding accident and well... the rest they say is history!

Right whatever, Ovomit does not offer that, you only like him and other countries like him for the perceive him as being weak and soft and easily manipulated unlike current president. Well one thing is true, the only thing Ovomit can do is give a speech. That is it. Ovomit could not ride a tricycle, come on get real, what is this bike rider BS, eh!

McCain is a liberal republican and that is why he lost the last time he ran for president. If people think the next president regardless if it is Obama or McCain are going to turn things around and make the country grow at the rate it did in the last 20+ years they are crazy. The best thing we can hope for is someone who won't make things worse and that will keep us on a path of economic growth.

I think the best we can hope for is someone who can possibly mend the shredded relations we have with all other countries on the planet. That's a no-brainer...only Obama has that potential. Plus, with his excellent oratory skills, I'm sure he can tell Mexico and Canada to stick NAFTA up their arses in such a way that they think it's a good idea. I suppose he should tell the Auto Union (UAW) to go screw itself as well. Wait....it already HAS screwed itself. There's a reason GM, Ford, and Chrysler built factories in Mexico and Canada.....no unions. Ergo, no idiot making $37.00/hour to install ashtrays in GM trucks. It's a basic assembly line....no one should be making over $20.00/hour. The people who build HP computers make $6.50/hour.....which is more difficult?

So, I think Obama is our best bet. He's the polar opposite of "W" when it comes to public speaking. Wouldn't it be nice to not look like idiots to the rest of the planet for a change?

McCain would only make our strained international relations even worse.

Oh, and let's actually get serious about alternative fuels, rather than just some feel good ####### to appease the populace while raking in the oil dollars. No reliance on foreign oil = a more prosperous America. Again, only a Democrat is going to lead the country that direction. Obama is a bike rider AND a Democrat, so maybe we'll see a funding package for the construction of bike "highways" for easier commuting.

Hey, a guy can dream, eh?

Were you actually born brain damaged, or did you give yourself a frontal lobotomy with a blender and a salad fork?

[Teacher Mark 53]

We are all doing better now and much better off under GW Bush and we should all be thankful for his leadership economically. Get her done, get out there and work for a change and see what happens. Sure things cost more now but we are all making more money now and worth more than ever! Viva GW Bush!

Actually, I'm doing better than I ever have financially. It seems I'm the exception to the rule though.

I don't think you are. Most people I know do too.

Bush has absolutely nothing to do with my financial situation. I am in specialized portion of an Industry that is in desperate need of workers. I was the one who went to school, got the C.D.L., endured 2 years living out of a truck for what amounts to less than minimum wage, found the job in Entertainment, pursued it, got the job and chose to tour year round.

I can thank him for the fact that most people can't afford a vacation this year and will be going to more shows though.

You guys make sure and go to the Vans Warped Tour this year. We kick it off in Pomona in a couple of weeks.

[Amby 490]

this thread is brilliant. thank you so much platy & z

[GaryC 7]

Right whatever, Ovomit does not offer that, you only like him and other countries like him for the perceive him as being weak and soft and easily manipulated unlike current president. Well one thing is true, the only thing Ovomit can do is give a speech. That is it. Ovomit could not ride a tricycle, come on get real, what is this bike rider BS, eh!

McCain is a liberal republican and that is why he lost the last time he ran for president. If people think the next president regardless if it is Obama or McCain are going to turn things around and make the country grow at the rate it did in the last 20+ years they are crazy. The best thing we can hope for is someone who won't make things worse and that will keep us on a path of economic growth.

I think the best we can hope for is someone who can possibly mend the shredded relations we have with all other countries on the planet. That's a no-brainer...only Obama has that potential. Plus, with his excellent oratory skills, I'm sure he can tell Mexico and Canada to stick NAFTA up their arses in such a way that they think it's a good idea. I suppose he should tell the Auto Union (UAW) to go screw itself as well. Wait....it already HAS screwed itself. There's a reason GM, Ford, and Chrysler built factories in Mexico and Canada.....no unions. Ergo, no idiot making $37.00/hour to install ashtrays in GM trucks. It's a basic assembly line....no one should be making over $20.00/hour. The people who build HP computers make $6.50/hour.....which is more difficult?

So, I think Obama is our best bet. He's the polar opposite of "W" when it comes to public speaking. Wouldn't it be nice to not look like idiots to the rest of the planet for a change?

McCain would only make our strained international relations even worse.

Oh, and let's actually get serious about alternative fuels, rather than just some feel good ####### to appease the populace while raking in the oil dollars. No reliance on foreign oil = a more prosperous America. Again, only a Democrat is going to lead the country that direction. Obama is a bike rider AND a Democrat, so maybe we'll see a funding package for the construction of bike "highways" for easier commuting.

Hey, a guy can dream, eh?

You know, you would get a lot further if you left out the personal insults. While I appreciate some more people on my side of the argument having a point would help more.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What exactly are the "failing Bush economic policies"?

Why don't you ask Doug Holtz-Eakin (McCain's domestic policy adviser) that question? Somehow, McCain's campaign is busier campaigning against W's economic policies - with the exception of tax policy - than against Obama's.

The only thing he [McCain] shares in common with President Bush is the understanding of good tax policy. ...Sadly, it seems that's all President Bush understood on the economy.

So how does this make McCain Bush's poodle? It seems he isn't. Be consistent Dog!

I am consistent. McSame is Bush's Poodle. I have made no claim to the contrary. McCain's domestic policy adviser has made claims to the contrary in an effort to cloud the fact that McSame would continue on Bush's failed path. To do that, McCain's campaign is making a claim that Bush's economic policy stinks. They're campaigning against the very policies that they clearly intend to carry forward.

All Hail the Double Talk Express.

Now wait, he has fought Bush on the conduct of the war. He has said the only thing economically that he agrees with Bush on is the taxes, just what makes him Bush's poodle? Other than of course your desire to paint him as Bush. Face it. McCain is the one republican that isn't in step with Bush. That is precisely why he can beat Carter 2.0.

He is pursuing more of the same in regards to healthcare and overall fiscal policy - the campaign rhetoric aside. McCain has voted with his Republican fellows 90% of the time and supported Bush by an even higher margin (remember when the Republicans broke ranks with W on immigration, McCain was sure to stand with him). However much he'd like to portray himself that way, McSame ain't no Maverick. The few issues he stood his ground on for decades and had disagreed with Bush and the majority of the Republicans on (Roe vs. Wade, Taxes, to name a couple prominent issues), he fell into lockstep as he started his bid for the Presidency 2008. He is Bush's Poodle. Woof.

[SteveLaura 0]

I suppose you could argue that Bush has helped me in my line of work. I work for a homeless shelter.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

He is pursuing more of the same in regards to healthcare and overall fiscal policy - the campaign rhetoric aside. McCain has voted with his Republican fellows 90% of the time and supported Bush by an even higher margin (remember when the Republicans broke ranks with W on immigration, McCain was sure to stand with him). However much he'd like to portray himself that way, McSame ain't no Maverick. The few issues he stood his ground on for decades and had disagreed with Bush and the majority of the Republicans on (Roe vs. Wade, Taxes, to name a couple prominent issues), he fell into lockstep as he started his bid for the Presidency 2008. He is Bush's Poodle. Woof.

To be fair, McCain sponsored the immigration reform bill (with, of all people, Ted Kennedy), and even Bush's position is at odds with most Republicans. Immigration reform is something McCain has supported since before Bush became president.

[mawilson 2,133]

He is Bush's Poodle. Woof.

I still like his economic policy better than Obama's.

McCain's tax relief:

• will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
• will double the personal exemption for dependents
• will maintain the current income and investment tax rates and fight the Democrats' plans for a crippling tax increase in 2011
• will make it harder to raise taxes (require a 3/5 majority vote in Congress)
• will reduce the Federal corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent
• will ban Internet taxes
• will ban new cell phone taxes

Obama's tax relief:

• will reverse the Bush tax cuts for the "wealthy" taxpayers (which includes a lot of small businesses)
• will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay. The new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family, will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
• will simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
• will make college affordable by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit. This universal and fully refundable credit will ensure that the first $4,000 of a college education is completely free for most Americans.
• expand the child and dependent care tax credit by making it refundable and allowing low-income families to receive up to a 50 percent credit for their child care expenses
• eliminate income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000