IS YOUR WIFE THE SAME ONCE IN THE USA???

[Dr. J 0]

Dr J - if you love and respect your wife and she loves and respects you I dont see you will have too many issues - if you both find living in the US too 'alien' for whatever reason then you can both move to Colombia - Ive heard its a lovely place.

Just remember not to over-generalize about people or 'types; people are people are people and rarely conform to a TYPE- I see some have done this to you and you didn't like it - perhaps you can see why now that others don't.

I hope your future is what you (both) hope for.

I understand what you are saying...but if you go and read the original post...and the REPHRASED question I did not say ALL american women...I said ALOT......after that...all the women with chips on their shoulders came out swinging...ready to fight.....just shows that I was right. ALOT...not ALL.

[Traviesa 0]

Dr. J....you never answered my questions. I really want to know if your fiancee knows you think she's SPANISH? Oh and I wanted to let you know, every time I have had to read about you going to "find you a Spanish woman" I throw up a little bit in my mouth. Choosing women by their language...what's next??

[Jenn! 918]

all the women with chips on their shoulders came out swinging...ready to fight.....just shows that I was right. ALOT...not ALL.

I have to agree with you there, Dr. J.

[Fandango 1,439]

'American women don't value family as much as others.' Now I have heard everything.

If that makes me 'have a chip on my shoulder' then whatever, but this is the biggest pile of bs I have ever heard.

American women come from EVERY other country in the world We're Italian, Spanish, Mexican, British, German, Croatian, etc. We are literally a sampling of every walk of life on this planet. To make sweeping statements is just so ignorant and small.

Edited May 11, 2006 by LisaD

[Ken and Inna 0]

Well stated Dr J.

However this thread is really getting old and nasty. I originally posted because I UNDERSTAND and SHARE your situation and concerns. It is very much a shame that we are not entitled to have an opinion/preference and freely able to express it to each other without a third party jumping in and calling you everything but a son of God. You know if this was flipped around...men would not get so out of whack...UNLESS it applied to them and then of course they would also get defensive and try to justify their short comings and try desperately to discredit you to make themselves feel better about who they are. To me this is a dead issue...I spent a years researching from many sources some biased and motivated and the majority not. I was concerned about my son's mental well being in a broken home and also...yes I admit I was very hurt in my divorce..but I wanted to do a self check and see what I did wrong...what could I have changed to prevent this failure...well through my research on divorce, marital trends, feminist movement in the USA, and seeing many sad unnecessary marital failures and some completely outright inhumane and unjust legal #######. No I am not changing my overall sentiment...I know I am correct in my conclusion, and so are you and many other men telling the same story. I guess these ladies can just chalk us up as dark age minded pigs that want to dominate and control women and make them our personal slaves...Whatever they want to think...that is their right even if they are Sooo Wrong.

I have an IQ in the triple digits and I understand just fine. It's you that can't seem to understand what we are saying.

there is a difference in knowledge and wisdom.......seems like you don't understand that because all you have is knowledge.....not wisdom. And wisdom can not be measured by an IQ test or some other test created by a MAN.......

[tmma 467]

Yes it is sad when a child gets a critical illness and health insurance won't cover it, forcing them to bankruptcy -- I guess people should plan better for these things.

Ok, now you are getting way out of context. As I stated somewhere, all situations are different, and if it is what you must do, and it is working, GREAT.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you here. My experiences have shown me I can live with less and enjoy life more. I have seen other cultures and countries that have horrible goverments, but great people that know this truth.

So, there is no way I will see your side, and no way you will see mine.

CHUCK...give it up...they are NEVER going to understand........they may need to just visit another country and see 8 people living a home and 2 people working.......but they have food and bills are paid....AND they are content with their lives...they dont watch TV all day seeing NEW CARS...BIGGER HOMES...NEW CLOTHES...and get greedy and materialistic...because family is what matters....but anyone in a society that has NEVER experienced that will not understand...I was like that BEFORE I visited Colombia......WANTED ALL THESE MATERIAL THINGS in life.....but when you on your death bead...you not sitting there thinking about how much more money you could have made....how many MORE hours you could have spent at the job...or that NEW CAR that you wish you had bought....NOPE...you are thinkign about your family...people that you wish you could appolgize too.....etc. So when it all comes down to it..RELATIONSHIPS are the number one important thing in this world....RELATIONSHIPS and how we relate to eachother......not MONEY.

Just a question.....If it's so great there, why bring someone you love here ( where there is such bad moral corruption and love of money)-could the reason be anything at all to do with money or the ability to earn a living??

Edited May 11, 2006 by tmma

[Freda 0]

K guys I cotta go do the western woman thing and go SHOPPING. You know the usual trip to the mens department to get the fiance some new shorts, the grocery to get some baking potatoes to go with the steak I intend to have on the table when my sweet returns home this evening from work and a second car seat to have one in both cars to save my fiance from having to switch them back and forth and or keep moving one car in the morning to get to the other one c's I need the one with the car seat to do errands. Sorry guys couldn't resist. Just a little humor.

But kidding aside Dr.J have you given any thought to how your future wife will feel having to ask you for money to go and buy you a birthday gift, or surprise you with a new sexy night gown, or OMG buy those monthly feminine hygiene products we need? I'd feel degraded and useless. Sure you'd give her all she needs and more but it's not the same. Think about it for awhile, how would you feel asking her for money to buy her flowers?

[Dr. J 0]

This is from a website that intorduces foreign men to Colombian women.

"Colombian women posses qualities that many American and other foreign men desire, but that the Colombian man does not appreciate. Many of these qualities have disappeared or are hard to find in the modern cultures of the developed countries (USA, Canada, UK).

Colombian women have a more traditional outlook on marriage. They are devoted to their husbands and family. They are raised to be proud mothers and are home minded. They believe the most important things in the world are their children and the happiness of their family. Colombian women are genuine, loyal, honest, romantic, tender, and yes, they are very passionate women and strive to make their mates happy in every way.

There are beautiful, educated, and sexy women throughout Colombia and many other Latin American countries that really want to meet sincere men to be their husbands, lovers, and best friend."

Someone that compliments you...not COMPETES against you

Ask any man that has been to Colombia............they will tell you the same thing!!

[Traviesa 0]

And again, Dr. J dodges my questions...very telling. I think we can draw our conclusions about this one...hope him and his SPANISH acquisition, I mean wife, are very happy.

Edited May 11, 2006 by MissLiss

[Dr. J 0]

K guys I cotta go do the western woman thing and go SHOPPING. You know the usual trip to the mens department to get the fiance some new shorts, the grocery to get some baking potatoes to go with the steak I intend to have on the table when my sweet returns home this evening from work and a second car seat to have one in both cars to save my fiance from having to switch them back and forth and or keep moving one car in the morning to get to the other one c's I need the one with the car seat to do errands. Sorry guys couldn't resist. Just a little humor.

But kidding aside Dr.J have you given any thought to how your future wife will feel having to ask you for money to go and buy you a birthday gift, or surprise you with a new sexy night gown, or OMG buy those monthly feminine hygiene products we need? I'd feel degraded and useless. Sure you'd give her all she needs and more but it's not the same. Think about it for awhile, how would you feel asking her for money to buy her flowers?

She does not have to ask...there will be ONE bank account with BOTH names on it....she needs something...go buy it. There is no separate #######...no MINE or YOURS in this house...its OURS.....so if she need to get something....just take the debit card or cash and get it....who cares. Why does she have to ASK?? Is that what you guys think of me??? Thats foul....but I agree with ZED...its a dead issue......I'm going to let all the angry women have it out and proclaim their independence!!!...Im done writing!! Good luck Zed.....I know you are going to be happy.....

Edited May 11, 2006 by Dr. J

[Jenn! 918]

Choosing women by their language...what's next??

Do you think that's any different than only liking blondes, for example?

[Traviesa 0]

This is from a website that intorduces foreign men to Colombian women.

"Colombian women posses qualities that many American and other foreign men desire, but that the Colombian man does not appreciate. Many of these qualities have disappeared or are hard to find in the modern cultures of the developed countries (USA, Canada, UK).

Colombian women have a more traditional outlook on marriage. They are devoted to their husbands and family. They are raised to be proud mothers and are home minded. They believe the most important things in the world are their children and the happiness of their family. Colombian women are genuine, loyal, honest, romantic, tender, and yes, they are very passionate women and strive to make their mates happy in every way.

There are beautiful, educated, and sexy women throughout Colombia and many other Latin American countries that really want to meet sincere men to be their husbands, lovers, and best friend."

Someone that compliments you...not COMPETES against you

Ask any man that has been to Colombia............they will tell you the same thing!!

And then there's some of them who shake their booty and sing (like Shakira), and there's some who take it upon themselves to commit fraud. Takes ALL KINDS to make a country...hope you know what, I mean who, YOU got.

Choosing women by their language...what's next??

Do you think that's any different than only liking blondes, for example?

Yes, because he thinks that her language and country automatically makes her a certain kind of woman. It does not. I'm certainly glad that I wasn't picked because of such superficial reasons.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

She does not have to ask...there will be ONE bank account with BOTH names on it....she needs something...go buy it. There is no separate #######...no MINE or YOURS in this house...its OURS.....so if she need to get something....just take the debit card or cash and get it....who cares. Why does she have to ASK?? Is that what you guys think of me??? Thats foul....but I agree with ZED...its a dead issue......I'm going to let all the angry women have it out and proclaim their independence!!!...Im done writing!! Good luck Zed.....I know you are going to be happy.....

That's how it is in my household. My wife initially felt weird about asking me for money but soon realized she didn't have to ask. She has a credit card and an ATM card and she has online access to OUR account. She does what she pleases. I trusted her enough to give her the keys to my kingdom (haha) because I know she's a heckuva lot more responsible with money than I am. If she wasn't, we'd have separate accounts. More importantly, if she wasn't, we wouldn't be married.

...could the reason be anything at all to do with money or the ability to earn a living??

Very good point.

[Welshcookie 17]

This is from a website that intorduces foreign men to Colombian women.

"Colombian women posses qualities that many American and other foreign men desire, but that the Colombian man does not appreciate. Many of these qualities have disappeared or are hard to find in the modern cultures of the developed countries (USA, Canada, UK).

Colombian women have a more traditional outlook on marriage. They are devoted to their husbands and family. They are raised to be proud mothers and are home minded. They believe the most important things in the world are their children and the happiness of their family. Colombian women are genuine, loyal, honest, romantic, tender, and yes, they are very passionate women and strive to make their mates happy in every way.

There are beautiful, educated, and sexy women throughout Colombia and many other Latin American countries that really want to meet sincere men to be their husbands, lovers, and best friend."

Someone that compliments you...not COMPETES against you

Ask any man that has been to Colombia............they will tell you the same thing!!

Honest and sincere question.....

I have come across a few forums devoted to men looking and finding foreign brides etc.....did you join VJ yesterday thinking it was such a forum?

sorry... you found a bucket full of western women and pissed us off......

Good luck with your new bride tho....

[rebeccajo 14]

This is from a website that intorduces foreign men to Colombian women.

"Colombian women posses qualities that many American and other foreign men desire, but that the Colombian man does not appreciate. Many of these qualities have disappeared or are hard to find in the modern cultures of the developed countries (USA, Canada, UK).

Colombian women have a more traditional outlook on marriage. They are devoted to their husbands and family. They are raised to be proud mothers and are home minded. They believe the most important things in the world are their children and the happiness of their family. Colombian women are genuine, loyal, honest, romantic, tender, and yes, they are very passionate women and strive to make their mates happy in every way.

There are beautiful, educated, and sexy women throughout Colombia and many other Latin American countries that really want to meet sincere men to be their husbands, lovers, and best friend."

Someone that compliments you...not COMPETES against you

Ask any man that has been to Colombia............they will tell you the same thing!!

I really think this is just web advertising.......I wouldn't take it as some cultural truth.........