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This type of hate based activity is something that all Americans should condemn with one voice. It is completely understandable to express concern or question the Representatives rational for supporting Sen. Obama, but the rest is savage uncivilized activity that destroys the fiber of what being an American is all about.

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And some of it is Operation Chaos I am sure.....

To be honest, this kind of behavoir is par for the course for Limbaugh Dittoheads/Freepers. Don't think for a moment they wouldn't pass themselves off as "Clinton supporters."

Some people are really prepared to believe every bad and negative thing about Clinton and her supporters, however.

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And some of it is Operation Chaos I am sure.....

To be honest, this kind of behavoir is par for the course for Limbaugh Dittoheads/Freepers. Don't think for a moment they wouldn't pass themselves off as "Clinton supporters."

Some people are really prepared to believe every bad and negative thing about Clinton and her supporters, however.

Whomever it is, be it Clinton supporters or fakers, they should be ashamed of themselves for sinking so low.

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However regrettable this is, I think the likes of Clyburn are undoubtably fuelling a currently sensitive issue. Given a few days to calm down after the disappointment, I think it's highly likely these incidents will decrease to non significant levels. Were Dems in general and Barack supporters in particular to not pour salt into fresh wounds the Hillary supporters would likely shift over to Barack. Clearly the winners in this media fuelled 'hate fest' are the Republicans.

Personally I believe those who are truly bitter are in a very small minority and even these could probably be won over (should they be Dem party members) were there to be a little more respect shown to Hillary and less of the 'she is an evil ######, see, this blah blah blah proves it'.

That's not to say that were the shoe on the other foot Clinton supporters would be any less vitriolic in victory. It does seem these antics are part and parcel of the American political scene, at least at this point in time that appears true.

There is much logic here.

It could all just be Reps trying to pass off as Dems. Wouldn't be the first time nor the last time they'd try to be that sleazy. Lets see if that racist bitterness decreases. Lets hope so.

This country *IS* racially divided. Always hss been and sadly, always will be to a point. You cannot gloss over that. And it will be brought up again & again by Reps.

No your wrong, the reason it will always be to a point is if people allow and tolerate it. I for one don't tolerate it in any form, I wasn't raised that way and I don't get it when people allow other people to speak badly of another race or religion like they are superior. You are right though I live in Virginia and I definately see the country is racially divided which I find astounding in this day and age.

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Clyburn said some of the callers used "names that I would not repeat on this show today."

"I was absolutely shocked, could not believe that this happened. I could understand people saying, 'Why are you doing this or why would you not support Hillary Clinton?' but to call me the kinds of names I have not heard since the '40s and '50s," he said.

Clyburn said some of the callers threatened to "sabotage this election." He added that he does not think Clinton understands her role in unifying the party.

"I've got a call in to Bob Johnson, a good buddy of mine, he's a big supporter of Hillary Clinton, he's now pushing for her to be on the ticket as VP. And I'm gonna tell him today they'd better really raise their voices because this kind of stuff is lethal," Clyburn said.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/04/cl...ith-hate-calls/

Only now, Clyburn is getting what Hillary supporting members of the Black Caucus have endured throughout the whole course of Dem primaries.

John lewis for example switched from HRC to BHO because of these threats and pressures.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8762.html

African-American superdelegates said Thursday that they'll stand up against threats, intimidation and "Uncle Tom" smears rather than switch their support from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama.

"African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving "nasty letters, phone calls, threats they'll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.

"This is the politics of the 1950s," he complained. "A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They're not going to talk about it, but it's happening."

After civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) switched his support from Clinton to Obama earlier this week, other black superdelegates have come under renewed pressure to do a similar about-face. A handful have bowed to the entreaties in recent weeks, including Georgia Rep. David Scott, but many say they are steadfast in their support for Clinton and resent strong-arm tactics to make them change.

Rep. Diane E. Watson (D-Calif.), a black lawmaker and Clinton backer, said the intense lobbying for Obama would not alter her vote.

"I've gotten threatening mail," Watson said. "They say, 'Your district went 61-29 Obama and you need to change.' But I don't intimidate. I can hold the ground. … I would lose my seat over my principles."

Neither Watson nor Cleaver faces a strong reelection threat at this time. Cleaver's Kansas City-area district narrowly supported Obama in Missouri's Feb. 5 primary.

Black superdelegates are getting heavy pressure from such groups as ColorOfChange.org, a grass-roots organization whose members overwhelmingly support Obama.

"Some [Congressional Black Caucus] members are threatening to vote against their constituents, and perhaps against the will of the American people, by casting their superdelegate vote for Sen. Clinton," the ColorOfChange.org website reads. "We can prevent this from happen by letting black leadership know we're watching."

But Watson said that she could not see switching her vote simply because Obama is black.

"I don't support one type of person above all others. How would that message resonate with Koreatown?" she asked. Watson's Central Los Angeles district is 35 percent Latino, 30 percent black and 12 percent Asian-American, including many Korean-Americans.

The Clinton campaign, for its part, has been working hard to keep its superdelegates on board. On a conference call with reporters Thursday afternoon, Clinton adviser Harold Ickes said he and campaign manager Maggie Williams had "spent a lot of time talking to our superdelegates over the past week," and that they are "holding fast."

The Clinton camp released a statement Thursday touting the defection of Obama supporter Veronica Escobar after polls in Texas, Escobar's home state, showed Clinton leading among registered Hispanic voters by 62 to 21 percent.

Rep. Gregory W. Meeks (D-N.Y.), a Black Caucus member, said he is still "very strong" for Clinton even in the wake of Lewis's turnaround. He was unmoved by discord in his Queens district, which backed Obama in the New York primary.

"Some people threw out flyers. That doesn't faze me at all. If someone wants to run against me, that's democracy," he said. "Sen. Obama is a very inspirational person. People in the district are proud. I'm proud. You can't not be proud being an African-American… But I have to do overall what's in the best interests of my district."

Cleaver questioned why white superdelegates such as Massachusetts Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry weren't being targeted to support Clinton after she carried their state.

"If white people were being harassed and threatened because they were not supporting a white candidate, we'd see headlines," he said.

Cleaver said he did not believe the Obama campaign was behind the disturbing e-mails and phone calls he has received.

"I refuse to believe that Sen. Obama gave orders for something like this to happen. This is a contradiction of the new politics that Sen. Obama is running on," he said. "My fear is with all of the nastiness, we're going to have a whole lot of kissing and making up to do as a party."

(Poor Cleaver, making sure he's not provoking the warth of Messiah :blush: )

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added. ... ..

Black lawmakers rethink Clinton support

<a href="http://Loyalty%20vs.%20Voters:%20A%20Superdelegate%27s%20Dilemma" target="_blank">Here's another example (NPR:Loyalty vs. Voters)

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IF it is really clinton supporters......i'd not be surprised if it's really some obama ones playing it up for the press.

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and the blame game begins

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When will this hate mongering end??? Why should the color of someone's skin matter? This kind of talk is really tiring. It should be about who could do the best job, who could do what is best for our country. But then that is if we were living in a perfect world and since we are not...

P.S. Shame shame shame on those people who are made those calls.

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