Should Parents Be Forced to Vaccinate Their Children?

[Marilyn. 340]

i think kids should get vaccinated but more research should be done... I don't think it is ok to give all the kids the same vaccinations .. everybody is different...

dang, I can't figure out how to word what I want to say

Totally agree.

Once patient-specific vaccines can be easily developed, sure, why not. Until then... not all children with developing immune systems will react equally to the same types of vaccines.

lol.. thanks, that is what I was trying to say....

[HAL 9000 96]

It is incredibly irresponsible not to get your kids vaccinated. That is my opinion anyway.

I am in complete agreement. I have seen no compelling evidence that vaccinating is dangerous and a lot of evidence to the contrary. If you ever go to these anti-vax sites, the owners have to be driving up the price of aluminum foil with all that they are using to create their hats. Some kind of vast government world domination consipiracy that involves vaccinating children with poison to meet the outline of the grand plan. Also a singificant majority seem to be marketing their woo drugs heavily on these sites at the same time. But nothing wrong with that, woo is better than the evil FDA.

I guess it depends on the side effects and the particular patients involved. God forbid its your child that gets the 1:100,000 adverse reaction to Vaccine X.

[Dr. Obvious 49]

I think it is benefits vs. risks though. Your child probably has a much, much higher chance of dying or being seriously maimed in a car wreck than having some adverse reaction to a vaccine. However, I don't see the movement to stop putting children in cars. Benefits outweigh the risks.

[Marilyn. 340]

i just want to make it clear that I am not against vaccinations.. I just think more research should be done...

[HAL 9000 96]

I think it is benefits vs. risks though. Your child probably has a much, much higher chance of dying or being seriously maimed in a car wreck than having some adverse reaction to a vaccine. However, I don't see the movement to stop putting children in cars. Benefits outweigh the risks.

Of course, and I agree. That doesn't take credibility away from ensuring that there be minimal, if not any, side effects from known detrimental effects from that which is purported to be beneficial in the long run.

Like I said, this can be avoided by creating patient-specific medications and vaccines.

You may have a higher probability of dying or serious bodily injury in a vehicle, but that is pretty much something that can occur across the board for anyone. With vaccines its a completely different analogy- not everyone will have the same reaction given individual background.

[Cassie 8]

It's up to the parent. I have good friends who refused, after doing their own research, to immunize their children. Do I particularly agree with that stance? No, not really, but I do see the point of concern about the ingredients used in the vaccines (fillers, like mercury, etc), the amount of shots given at one time, the amount of shots in general, and the "one size fits all" mentality.

there's no harm in questioning the status quo!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I believe in organically grown vaccines.

[HAL 9000 96]

It's up to the parent. I have good friends who refused, after doing their own research, to immunize their children. Do I particularly agree with that stance? No, not really, but I do see the point of concern about the ingredients used in the vaccines (fillers, like mercury, etc), the amount of shots given at one time, the amount of shots in general, and the "one size fits all" mentality.

there's no harm in questioning the status quo!

STFU you crazy liberal! (j/k!)

[Jenn! 918]

It's up to the parent. I have good friends who refused, after doing their own research, to immunize their children. Do I particularly agree with that stance? No, not really, but I do see the point of concern about the ingredients used in the vaccines (fillers, like mercury, etc), the amount of shots given at one time, the amount of shots in general, and the "one size fits all" mentality.

there's no harm in questioning the status quo!

STFU you crazy liberal! (j/k!)

I know you were just joking, but that really is a more conservative opinion, no?

I understand that your freedom ends at the tip of my nose, but every time I hear this issue I get mental images of Big Brother pinning me to the ground and giving me a HPV vaccine.

[Cassie 8]

It's up to the parent. I have good friends who refused, after doing their own research, to immunize their children. Do I particularly agree with that stance? No, not really, but I do see the point of concern about the ingredients used in the vaccines (fillers, like mercury, etc), the amount of shots given at one time, the amount of shots in general, and the "one size fits all" mentality.

there's no harm in questioning the status quo!

STFU you crazy liberal! (j/k!)

hehehe

I am a weird mix of liberal and conservative, that is for sure.

[HAL 9000 96]

It's up to the parent. I have good friends who refused, after doing their own research, to immunize their children. Do I particularly agree with that stance? No, not really, but I do see the point of concern about the ingredients used in the vaccines (fillers, like mercury, etc), the amount of shots given at one time, the amount of shots in general, and the "one size fits all" mentality.

there's no harm in questioning the status quo!

STFU you crazy liberal! (j/k!)

I know you were just joking, but that really is a more conservative opinion, no?

I understand that your freedom ends at the tip of my nose, but every time I hear this issue I get mental images of Big Brother pinning me to the ground and giving me a HPV vaccine.

You must be <26y.o. then...

But yeah... the only way I'd favor any mandatory vaccinations is if the vaccines can be tailored to each individual recipient.

Plus... these would have to be for contagious diseases... you can't force someone to be healthy. We don't force healthy diets on Americans... (far from it!)

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

George Will was on Colbert last night and described the difference between conservative and liberal as the difference between freedom and equality. Conservatives want freedom and are willing to accept the inequality that results from it; liberals want equality of outcome for all and are willing to infringe on freedoms to achieve it.

It should be said that George Will considers himself a conservative.

If you buy into that definition, I think Cassie's argument is conservative, not liberal.

[Dr. Obvious 49]

I think it is benefits vs. risks though. Your child probably has a much, much higher chance of dying or being seriously maimed in a car wreck than having some adverse reaction to a vaccine. However, I don't see the movement to stop putting children in cars. Benefits outweigh the risks.

Of course, and I agree. That doesn't take credibility away from ensuring that there be minimal, if not any, side effects from known detrimental effects from that which is purported to be beneficial in the long run.

Like I said, this can be avoided by creating patient-specific medications and vaccines.

You may have a higher probability of dying or serious bodily injury in a vehicle, but that is pretty much something that can occur across the board for anyone. With vaccines its a completely different analogy- not everyone will have the same reaction given individual background.

Where is the money going to come from to tailor every medication and vaccine to each person's individual body? At this point, I see little need to bother with that with vaccines. Every car wreck is different, unique even. I don't see where you are going with with that.

[SteveLaura 0]

George Will was on Colbert last night and described the difference between conservative and liberal as the difference between freedom and equality. Conservatives want freedom and are willing to accept the inequality that results from it; liberals want equality of outcome for all and are willing to infringe on freedoms to achieve it.

I like the use of the semi-colon, Master T. You've gone up in my estimation.

[HAL 9000 96]

I think it is benefits vs. risks though. Your child probably has a much, much higher chance of dying or being seriously maimed in a car wreck than having some adverse reaction to a vaccine. However, I don't see the movement to stop putting children in cars. Benefits outweigh the risks.

Of course, and I agree. That doesn't take credibility away from ensuring that there be minimal, if not any, side effects from known detrimental effects from that which is purported to be beneficial in the long run.

Like I said, this can be avoided by creating patient-specific medications and vaccines.

You may have a higher probability of dying or serious bodily injury in a vehicle, but that is pretty much something that can occur across the board for anyone. With vaccines its a completely different analogy- not everyone will have the same reaction given individual background.

Where is the money going to come from to tailor every medication and vaccine to each person's individual body? At this point, I see little need to bother with that with vaccines. Every car wreck is different, unique even. I don't see where you are going with with that.

Ah... funding... well lets put it into an actual relevant context. As it stands today, blood and genetic profiling for most side effects of most vaccines are not that difficult to obtain and the cost is not prohibitive. Of course, this has to be so in a medical context where profile assays can be developed en masse. The more its done, the cheaper it gets.

Sure, every car wreck is different. But the causes can happen to anyone, for the most part, right? Vaccine-related side effects do not happen to 'just anyone.'