What Obama And Clinton Underestimate

[GaryC 7]

What Obama And Clinton Underestimate

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Obama underestimates:

1. The intensely loyal feelings many of Clinton’s supporters have about her – and the intensely negative feelings they have about him.

2. That any delay in choosing a running mate will only bring rampant speculation about whether he is going to pick Clinton – and if not, why not – speculation so extreme it might warp and dominate the entire process (and potentially create reams of critical and distracting press for his eventual Veep selection).

3. How sensitive the Clintons are to perceived slights – what Obama sees as gracious and sufficient they sometimes see as condescending and chilly.

4. The level of scrutiny that he is about to get—the national press corps may instinctively love his story, but general election coverage automatically will be at least twice as concentrated.

5. How much the McCain high command disdains him.

6. How much the Republican Party has been preparing for this moment—and for the general. And just how potent that effort can be–indifferent as it will be to charm, change, and charisma.

7. How much sober attention will be focused on the ramifications of the November election and the burdens of the next President: the fuss and fanfare about the epic Clinton-Obama battle will seem on some levels utterly frivolous in comparison.

Clinton underestimates:

1. How big the emotional comedown is going to be the day after she drops out. Recalculating the next chapter of her life without the 24-hour campaign grind will be a weighty task indeed.

2. How uninterested the Obamas are in having her family join the ticket (a longstanding sensibility, with added fodder provided by the Vanity Fair Purdum fallout).

3. The number of her staff and top supporters who will not tolerate her campaign continuing beyond Wednesday – and just how gravely they feel about it.

4. The amount of criticism she will receive if it does not appear she is doing everything humanly possible to help Obama get elected once the nomination is officially his.

5. The disdain felt towards her in most newsrooms (and, yes, she certainly knows it is quite high). The respectful pundit commentary (“she fought hard,” “she raised important issues,” “she made advancements for women,” “she has a big place in the Democratic Party,” “she’ll dominate the Senate”) will be short-lived if she makes a single wrong step.

6. The level of martyrdom status she will attain for some American women.

7. How complicated it will be to navigate her political path—through the Scylla of Bob Dole and the Charibdis of Bill Clinton—to get to the smooth iconic waters of Al Gore and Ted Kennedy.

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Getting nervous, are we?

[GaryC 7]

Getting nervous, are we?

Not at all. Obama hasn't a chance.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Getting nervous, are we?

Not at all. Obama hasn't a chance.

As I said time and again, he beat the Clintons. People, including yourself, said the exact same thing: He hasn't a chance. They, including yourself, were wrong on that one.

[GaryC 7]

Getting nervous, are we?

Not at all. Obama hasn't a chance.

As I said time and again, he beat the Clintons. People, including yourself, said the exact same thing: He hasn't a chance. They, including yourself, were wrong on that one.

He didn't beat anything. Just wait. This isn't over by a long shot. Obama hasn't a chance. The only people that will vote for him are the ones that voted for him in the primaries. That isn't enough to win the election. When his radical far left record is brought out in the open his support will dwindle to lefties like yourself. The general election is a whole different ball game.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Getting nervous, are we?

Not at all. Obama hasn't a chance.

As I said time and again, he beat the Clintons. People, including yourself, said the exact same thing: He hasn't a chance. They, including yourself, were wrong on that one.

He didn't beat anything. Just wait. This isn't over by a long shot. Obama hasn't a chance. The only people that will vote for him are the ones that voted for him in the primaries. That isn't enough to win the election. When his radical far left record is brought out in the open his support will dwindle to lefties like yourself. The general election is a whole different ball game.

He beat the Clintons. You're a bit slow to see it but it'll eventually be an undeniable fact. And eventually means later this week. Mark my words, McSame isn't going to move into 1600 Penn Ave. It isn't going to happen.

[no name 1]

What Obama And Clinton Underestimate

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Obama underestimates:

1. The intensely loyal feelings many of Clinton’s supporters have about her – and the intensely negative feelings they have about him.

2. That any delay in choosing a running mate will only bring rampant speculation about whether he is going to pick Clinton – and if not, why not – speculation so extreme it might warp and dominate the entire process (and potentially create reams of critical and distracting press for his eventual Veep selection).

3. How sensitive the Clintons are to perceived slights – what Obama sees as gracious and sufficient they sometimes see as condescending and chilly.

4. The level of scrutiny that he is about to get—the national press corps may instinctively love his story, but general election coverage automatically will be at least twice as concentrated.

5. How much the McCain high command disdains him.

6. How much the Republican Party has been preparing for this moment—and for the general. And just how potent that effort can be–indifferent as it will be to charm, change, and charisma.

7. How much sober attention will be focused on the ramifications of the November election and the burdens of the next President: the fuss and fanfare about the epic Clinton-Obama battle will seem on some levels utterly frivolous in comparison.

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

Edited June 4, 2008 by illumine

[Ms.Me 0]

Getting nervous, are we?

Not at all. Obama hasn't a chance.

As I said time and again, he beat the Clintons. People, including yourself, said the exact same thing: He hasn't a chance. They, including yourself, were wrong on that one.

He didn't beat anything. Just wait. This isn't over by a long shot. Obama hasn't a chance. The only people that will vote for him are the ones that voted for him in the primaries. That isn't enough to win the election. When his radical far left record is brought out in the open his support will dwindle to lefties like yourself. The general election is a whole different ball game.

He beat the Clintons. You're a bit slow to see it but it'll eventually be an undeniable fact. And eventually means later this week. Mark my words, McSame isn't going to move into 1600 Penn Ave. It isn't going to happen.

Ditto... That old man won't win the election... OBAMA all the way!!

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Anybody who has Rupert Murdoch behind them and the far reaching tentacles of their "cracken" media has a chance. The same man who beat the war drums to go to war in 2003 and affected public opinion to rally around the flag can certainly have a similar amount of persuasion in regards to their media darling. I question Murdoch's motives in this regards.

It seems to be the dawning of a new era. I am highly concerned of the ramifications of what era is dawning in the U.S. It is evidently historical but not necessarily the best. We may have social issues appear in the U.S. the likes of which we have never seen before. The population rarely elects someone that isn't appropriate for the social milieu of the times. So whoever is elected president come Nov. will be fitting for the population. One has to consider what does that say about the population. I for one am disappointed in the selections available, but who am I do to complain?

Edited June 4, 2008 by Olivia*

[HAL 9000 96]

Obama stands no chance against Gary and Dev sense... that much is most absolutely true...

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

Dev, do you really wanna see Hillary playing the lap dog of Barack?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

Dev, do you really wanna see Hillary playing the lap dog of Barack?

Well, she COULD indeed play his lap-dog--as long as his choice of lap-dog is a grown loner female grey-wolf.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What Obama And Clinton Underestimate

Getty

Obama underestimates:

1. The intensely loyal feelings many of Clinton’s supporters have about her – and the intensely negative feelings they have about him.

2. That any delay in choosing a running mate will only bring rampant speculation about whether he is going to pick Clinton – and if not, why not – speculation so extreme it might warp and dominate the entire process (and potentially create reams of critical and distracting press for his eventual Veep selection).

3. How sensitive the Clintons are to perceived slights – what Obama sees as gracious and sufficient they sometimes see as condescending and chilly.

4. The level of scrutiny that he is about to get—the national press corps may instinctively love his story, but general election coverage automatically will be at least twice as concentrated.

5. How much the McCain high command disdains him.

6. How much the Republican Party has been preparing for this moment—and for the general. And just how potent that effort can be–indifferent as it will be to charm, change, and charisma.

7. How much sober attention will be focused on the ramifications of the November election and the burdens of the next President: the fuss and fanfare about the epic Clinton-Obama battle will seem on some levels utterly frivolous in comparison.

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

Is watching him fail worth 4 years of McSame?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

If that's not bitter defeatism, I don't know what it is.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

And I CANNOT WAIT to watch him fail. Only way he stands a chance is with her.

If that's not bitter defeatism, I don't know what it is.

I beleive your statement is a bit bitter isnt it? Calling someone bitter through bitterness. Unity? So typical!