Don't look now, but the U.S.-backed government and army may be winning the war.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He is right to point out that the US is part of an international community of (supposedly) like-minded countries; and we are party to international treaties that we have signed.

Exactly. The first Gulf War was based entirely on the notion that Saddam illegally invaded Kuwait. The reason for going to war against Iraq then was that Iraq acted illegally by invading another country. Yet we committed the the exact same illegal act on 19 March 2003 when we invaded Iraq. The very same illegal act of aggression.

Edited June 3, 2008 by Mr. Big Dog

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

He is right to point out that the US is part of an international community of (supposedly) like-minded countries; and we are party to international treaties that we have signed.

Exactly. The first Gulf War was based entirely on the notion that Saddam illegally invaded Kuwait. The reason for going to war against Iraq then was that Iraq acted illegally by invading another country. Yet we committed the the exact same illegal act on 19 March 2003 when we invaded Iraq. The very same illegal act of aggression.

So its okay to help Kuwaties and not Iraqi's?

[HAL 9000 96]

He is right to point out that the US is part of an international community of (supposedly) like-minded countries; and we are party to international treaties that we have signed.

Exactly. The first Gulf War was based entirely on the notion that Saddam illegally invaded Kuwait. The reason for going to war against Iraq then was that Iraq acted illegally by invading another country. Yet we committed the the exact same illegal act on 19 March 2003 when we invaded Iraq. The very same illegal act of aggression.

So its okay to help Kuwaties and not Iraqi's?

That would mean that there would have been a need to fight against our own troops invading Iraq... Whistle on that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

[HAL 9000 96]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

You believe everything you hear? YEP! You should be out savin the planet. You could go and sort your neighbors garbage for one.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

You believe everything you hear? YEP! You should be out savin the planet. You could go and sort your neighbors garbage for one.

You don't believe there isn't a murky backstory to a topic that's classically been presented as a good vs. evil / cowboys and indians story?

[HAL 9000 96]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

You believe everything you hear? YEP! You should be out savin the planet. You could go and sort your neighbors garbage for one.

Did I say I believed it ?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

You believe everything you hear? YEP! You should be out savin the planet. You could go and sort your neighbors garbage for one.

You don't believe there isn't a murky backstory to a topic that's classically been presented as a good vs. evil / cowboys and indians story?

Maybe if your looking for one that you agree with. If thats the case you can always find one.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Iraq invaded Kuwait as a result of disputes over debts owed to Kuwait following the Iran-Iraq war and a period of economic competition between the two countries. There was also some suggestion that Kuwait was drilling Iraq's oilfields - which I believe was their justification for invasion.

I also heard about a US-go ahead for Iraq to reclaim lost territory after the UK apportioned those lands during the colonial period.

You believe everything you hear? YEP! You should be out savin the planet. You could go and sort your neighbors garbage for one.

You don't believe there isn't a murky backstory to a topic that's classically been presented as a good vs. evil / cowboys and indians story?

Maybe if your looking for one that you agree with. If thats the case you can always find one.

Or you could just do a bit of reading on the background to the Gulf War. The basic story I outlined above is pretty well established - though the bit about illegal drilling is rather more contentious, given the source.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He is right to point out that the US is part of an international community of (supposedly) like-minded countries; and we are party to international treaties that we have signed.

Exactly. The first Gulf War was based entirely on the notion that Saddam illegally invaded Kuwait. The reason for going to war against Iraq then was that Iraq acted illegally by invading another country. Yet we committed the the exact same illegal act on 19 March 2003 when we invaded Iraq. The very same illegal act of aggression.

So its okay to help Kuwaties and not Iraqi's?

That would mean that there would have been a need to fight against our own troops invading Iraq... Whistle on that.

[nana_356 0]

Personally I dont feel that this war can ever be won?? And not because we dont have the militiary to do it, but because we dont have the mindset. How do you fight people that are not afraid of dying???

[GaryC 7]

Personally I dont feel that this war can ever be won?? And not because we dont have the militiary to do it, but because we dont have the mindset. How do you fight people that are not afraid of dying???

Give them their wish. Kill them. Eventually they will run out of people willing to die.

[nana_356 0]

Personally I dont feel that this war can ever be won?? And not because we dont have the militiary to do it, but because we dont have the mindset. How do you fight people that are not afraid of dying???

Give them their wish. Kill them. Eventually they will run out of people willing to die.

And who cares how many US soldiers die with them! And they will never run out of people willing to die!

[GaryC 7]

Personally I dont feel that this war can ever be won?? And not because we dont have the militiary to do it, but because we dont have the mindset. How do you fight people that are not afraid of dying???

Give them their wish. Kill them. Eventually they will run out of people willing to die.

And who cares how many US soldiers die with them! And they will never run out of people willing to die!

We are a lot better at killing them than they are at killing us. We will win.