Texas town's immigrant-renting rule is struck down

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Much of the mass furor is fueled by bigotry.

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OMG Charles, those stories are so sad!

This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

Eighteen-year-old Tricia Taylor of Detroit was in court in December 2002 to hear the plea of the illegal alien who caused her to lose both legs above the knees. Jose Carcamo was driving under the influence (.08 percent blood alcohol level) and speeding when he drove over a curb and smashed Taylor into a wall. One report stated that Carcamo has had 17 violations since 1995. Another noted that he was drag racing at the time of the crash. It is agreed that the car was travelling between 50 and 75 miles per hour on a street posted for 25 mph. Taylor's companion Noah Menard suffered a fractured skull and collarbone, as well as requiring eight pins to reconstruct his mangled elbow. The INS had twice begun deportation proceeding against Carcamo to return him to El Salvador, but regrettably did not follow through. Carcamo will be out of jail in a few years, but Tricia Taylor faces a lifetime of pain and disability because of another failure of the INS to remove a dangerous alien. Incidentally, drinking to excess and then driving is celebrated in Hispanic cultures rather than condemned.

Sentencing Update: On January 13, 2003 Jose Carcamo was sentenced to 3-5 years in prison. Four months after the crash, Tricia Taylor still must take pain medication, antibiotics, anti-depressants and sleeping pills. Chronic bone infection means she may yet lose more of her right leg. Carcamo sent a note of apology to Taylor and Menard, but misspelled the names. She responded, "It hurts me every time I see him. He acts like he's sorry, but you'd think he would know our names." She is not forgiving, either: "I have my whole life with no legs ... I'm only 18. He gets no forgiveness."

ETA: forgot to include the story I was citing.

Edited May 29, 2008 by Alhamdulillah

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Oh brother.

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God forbid we'd make rent money harder to obtain in the current economical climate... there are bigger issues at stake beyond the hysteria of illegal alien effects on a fragment of the US economy.

I thought this is a big issue.

Just to the Minutemen wanabes and those that would rather scapegoat the illegals themselvesjust the people that live w/ the affects of illegal immigration on a daily basis or people who care about those that do and not the actual roots behind it all. You know... the ones that would actually eliminate the problem in the first place if addressed with efficiency and a lack of realpolitik.

fixed the first part for ya.

and the plan to fix the problem would be?

To start you can stop scapegoating the symptoms as the clinical signs of th disease.

Cure the disease, not the side effects.

It will be cheaper than plugging the borders with faulty equipment and expensive maintenance.

so what's the cure? a border fence?

A fence is secondary to the drive to emigrate. You know that.

So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

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Much of the mass furor is fueled by bigotry.

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OMG Charles, those stories are so sad!

This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

just remember, they want a better life!

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So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

the fence would make it difficult for not just those wanting to emigrate, but for drug smugglers. so yes, there still would be a need for it.

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So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

the fence would make it difficult for not just those wanting to emigrate, but for drug smugglers. so yes, there still would be a need for it.

I'm thinking an electric fence would be more appropriate for these scum.

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OMG Charles, those stories are so sad!

This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

Eighteen-year-old Tricia Taylor of Detroit was in court in December 2002 to hear the plea of the illegal alien who caused her to lose both legs above the knees. Jose Carcamo was driving under the influence (.08 percent blood alcohol level) and speeding when he drove over a curb and smashed Taylor into a wall. One report stated that Carcamo has had 17 violations since 1995. Another noted that he was drag racing at the time of the crash. It is agreed that the car was travelling between 50 and 75 miles per hour on a street posted for 25 mph. Taylor's companion Noah Menard suffered a fractured skull and collarbone, as well as requiring eight pins to reconstruct his mangled elbow. The INS had twice begun deportation proceeding against Carcamo to return him to El Salvador, but regrettably did not follow through. Carcamo will be out of jail in a few years, but Tricia Taylor faces a lifetime of pain and disability because of another failure of the INS to remove a dangerous alien. Incidentally, drinking to excess and then driving is celebrated in Hispanic cultures rather than condemned. Sentencing Update: On January 13, 2003 Jose Carcamo was sentenced to 3-5 years in prison. Four months after the crash, Tricia Taylor still must take pain medication, antibiotics, anti-depressants and sleeping pills. Chronic bone infection means she may yet lose more of her right leg. Carcamo sent a note of apology to Taylor and Menard, but misspelled the names. She responded, "It hurts me every time I see him. He acts like he's sorry, but you'd think he would know our names." She is not forgiving, either: "I have my whole life with no legs ... I'm only 18. He gets no forgiveness."

ETA: forgot to include the story I was citing.

Ok, this is a failure of the justice system to follow through. Here in Washington my patient's father was immediately deported after being arrested for domestic violence against the patient's mother. However is it okay to then say

Incidentally, drinking to excess and then driving is celebrated in Hispanic cultures rather than condemned.

That's not fair to say. Who "celebrates" manslaughter? This man deserves severe punishment and I agree that he should have been dealt with previously.

Where I used to live they had a rental ban that was knocked down by the courts. I never understood why that was going to help the local community. You're only decreasing city revenue but making no other difference. I agree with Maviwaro that we need to focus on improving working standards in the US such that we improve living standards for our own communities and raise the bar all around.

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So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

the fence would make it difficult for not just those wanting to emigrate, but for drug smugglers. so yes, there still would be a need for it.

I'm thinking an electric fence would be more appropriate for these scum.

i've always been an advocate of land mines.......

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So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

the fence would make it difficult for not just those wanting to emigrate, but for drug smugglers. so yes, there still would be a need for it.

I'm thinking an electric fence would be more appropriate for these scum.

i've always been an advocate of land mines.......

Okay, I'll stop biting. This is crazy talk I see.

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God forbid we'd make rent money harder to obtain in the current economical climate... there are bigger issues at stake beyond the hysteria of illegal alien effects on a fragment of the US economy.

I thought this is a big issue.

Just to the Minutemen wanabes and those that would rather scapegoat the illegals themselvesjust the people that live w/ the affects of illegal immigration on a daily basis or people who care about those that do and not the actual roots behind it all. You know... the ones that would actually eliminate the problem in the first place if addressed with efficiency and a lack of realpolitik.

fixed the first part for ya.

and the plan to fix the problem would be?

To start you can stop scapegoating the symptoms as the clinical signs of th disease.

Cure the disease, not the side effects.

It will be cheaper than plugging the borders with faulty equipment and expensive maintenance.

so what's the cure? a border fence?

A fence is secondary to the drive to emigrate. You know that.

So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

One of the root causes would still exist, hence the drive would still exist.

Plus, I think living is a basic human right. But I know where you're coming from.

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Plus, I think living is a basic human right. But I know where you're coming from.

I didn't mean "living" like we should round them all up and execute them! you know what I meant.

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So wouldn't making it impossible for them to live here curb that drive to emigrate?

the fence would make it difficult for not just those wanting to emigrate, but for drug smugglers. so yes, there still would be a need for it.

I'm thinking an electric fence would be more appropriate for these scum.

i've always been an advocate of land mines.......

Okay, I'll stop biting. This is crazy talk I see.

Different strokes for different strokes sister shadtov...

But the hint should be... if you only give medicine for the resulting pain, you don't really cure the disease.

Plus, I think living is a basic human right. But I know where you're coming from.

I didn't mean "living" like we should round them all up and execute them! you know what I meant.

Of course, that's why I stated so.

Nevertheless, that's all a matter of legislation, and its up to the Feds to control that. Of course, based on democratic principles, not on the rants of very few voters.

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This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

You should be surprised. And you should be outraged as well.

While immigration is not the foray of local law enforcement, public intoxication certainly is. You should be phoning the Chief of Police in your city and asking questions.

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This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

You should be surprised. And you should be outraged as well.

While immigration is not the foray of local law enforcement, public intoxication certainly is. You should be phoning the Chief of Police in your city and asking questions.

Hence my inability to take the story seriously. Seriously... if it were a public safety problem the problem would have been taken care of from a law enforcement point of view long ago.

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the judge did the right thing./..

Only the federal government can regulate immigration, U.S. District Judge Sam A. Lindsay concluded in his decision.

The problem is the feds refuse to do their job.

Well, they are doing about as good a job as they are with issuing visas in a timely manner.

Which IMO means a big portion of the problem isn't the illegal entrants themselves or the country of their birth.

It's our system.

This one especially upset me because the neighborhood I live in is an illegal immigrant hotbed (and I have been victim to several crimes myself that the police can't do anything for because the illegal immigrants are untracable) and I sit in my house almost every night and watch them drink themselves to ridiculous levels and then, when the cops come because the music is too loud, all get in their cars and drive off.... drunk! And I am surprised every time that the police allows them to drive off knowing they're all drunk.

You should be surprised. And you should be outraged as well.

While immigration is not the foray of local law enforcement, public intoxication certainly is. You should be phoning the Chief of Police in your city and asking questions.

Hence my inability to take the story seriously. Seriously... if it were a public safety problem the problem would have been taken care of from a law enforcement point of view long ago.

It doesn't matter whether you believe the story is true or not.

If Alhamdulillah says it is so, and she believes it, then she as a citizen should do her duty and report the problem.

It's much more pro-active than just complaining about the problem and/or blaming it on illegal immigration.