10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

No, the UN will not and should not declare war on those countries who are currently not signed up to the Declaration. Again, again, again, that does not make the Declaration invalid or worthless or 'toothless' it simply means more work needs to be done to educate these people of the value of human life and the importance of a declaration of what is the value of human life in order to protect it.

Also, and you seem to have missed this somewhere, where the declaration has been adopted (which is a significant portion of countries globally) human rights abuses are reported and dealt with in courts of law. Again, this is not possible without the Declaration.

I am glad to see however, that you think that to value human life is a hilarious concept. Enlightenment - a long way off.

wrong there - it's due to the adoption of laws that allow a country's courts to try someone - not the declaration of rights that you so carry on about. the declaration of rights isn't a charge that will stick, only the laws of the country can a case be tried.

eta: the declaration of rights by the un remains toothless.

I guess the European Court of Human Rights will be pleased to note that they don't exist, nor do the cases they try.

Still, tell me, how would things improve were we to abolish the Declaration of Human Rights? Or, are you suggesting that simply nothing would change it is that irrelevant?

the fact remains it's possible only when it's passed into law in the country, otherwise their courts can't prosecute it. you need to separate the un from being a lawmaking body.

nor are we tallking about the european court of human rights, we were discussing the un and it's declaration of human rights. do try to stay on topic.

Are you lost? The Eurpean Court of Human Rights couldn't exist without the Declaration of Human Rights and is an example of what I tried explaining to you that the Declaration of Human Rights is fundamental to ensuring the legal defence of human rights. The Court supersedes the laws of individual countries which is the way it should be as it ensures that individual countries uphold the protection of Human Rights.

While it would be great if this was globallly applied, it is not worthless because it isn't.

so what you are saying is the un has, via this declaration, usurped the laws of nations.........

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It's voluntary. No usurpation involved.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it become part of American law, enforceable by American courts. What I wouldn't want to see are foreign courts prosecuting Americans for things they did in America.

[Donna A 4]

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knowing the truth will set you free.......

Wow, that is a little scary.

julianna-

I just wonder what is the answer, why does God not cure amputees? I hear how everyone hates the video, yet no one has answered the question. Does not Jesus say in the NT, that ask and you shall receive, he said anything you bring to him in prayer will be given to you. He didn’t put any kind of clause in that agreement. He not only says it once but many many times in the NT. Yet when you look around, he seems to never answer prayers to certain members of the human race. So my question is Why?

God didnt say that u would recieve it the minute u ask. When we get to heaven the amputee will be whole again. so yes he does cure the amputee just at his own time not ours. we will all get a glorified body when we get to heaven and will no longer be an amputee.

[Peikko 1,575]

Usurped? That's an odd way to look at it. However, a nation can't look at its own record on human rights and legislate, it would not be seen to be even handed, hence an independant legislation. It is very specific in its application and doesn't 'interfere' with the normal execution of laws within any nation.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

It's voluntary. No usurpation involved.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it become part of American law, enforceable by American courts. What I wouldn't want to see are foreign courts prosecuting Americans for things they did in America.

ah, good point, so maybe better to say the nations abdicated their responsibility.

[SaadBell 0]

God didnt say that u would recieve it the minute u ask. When we get to heaven the amputee will be whole again. so yes he does cure the amputee just at his own time not ours. we will all get a glorified body when we get to heaven and will no longer be an amputee.

Some people might say something like, "Jesus never says when he will answer your prayers. Maybe your prayer will be answered in the afterlife." But that seems uncomfortable. Jesus is answering millions of prayers for everyone else in the here and now. Clearly that is what he means with all his verses in the Bible. Why single out amputees for treatment in the afterlife when others get their prayers answered. A believer might say, "You are taking the Bible literally." But how else are we supposed to take it? Jesus clearly says, "If you ask anything in my name, I will do it." When Jesus says that, what does he mean? Presumably, Jesus means that if you ask for anything, he will do it. What else could he possibly mean?

Believers often respond with, "Look, Jesus was using poetic embellishment when he said, 'nothing will be impossible for you,' and 'faith can move mountains.'" Which leads to the following question: What prayers does God answer? It is the response to that question that is fascinating. Because the response inevitably is, "God is omnipotent, so God can do anything."

Which leads us right back to the question, "Why won't God heal amputees?"

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God hates amputees.

[Amby 490]

and gays/gay music

http://www.lovegodsway.org/GayBands

Edited May 29, 2008 by Amby

[Amby 490]

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While looking for images, I found a site called traditionalvalues.org ... interesting opinions on the gheys...

Wow...

The Homosexual Movement And Pedophilia

The homosexual activist movement and organized pedophiles are linked together by a common goal:

To gain access to children for seduction into homosexuality.

Homosexual activists deny that they target children for seduction into the homosexual lifestyle, but the evidence is overwhelming that this is a lie.

No link. I doubt we want to drive traffic there from here.

[Amby 490]

wow

[Peikko 1,575]

It's voluntary. No usurpation involved.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing it become part of American law, enforceable by American courts. What I wouldn't want to see are foreign courts prosecuting Americans for things they did in America.

ah, good point, so maybe better to say the nations abdicated their responsibility.

Anyone who said that would be talking out of their proverbial behind. No nation can or should have the responsbility to adjudicate Human Rights - It's like you think that just because Human Rights is independantly monitored and adjudicated somehow individual countries abdicate all responsibility to their citizens. What leads you such an idea is anybody's guess.

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http://www.kgov.com

knowing the truth will set you free.......

Wow, that is a little scary.

julianna-

I just wonder what is the answer, why does God not cure amputees? I hear how everyone hates the video, yet no one has answered the question. Does not Jesus say in the NT, that ask and you shall receive, he said anything you bring to him in prayer will be given to you. He didn't put any kind of clause in that agreement. He not only says it once but many many times in the NT. Yet when you look around, he seems to never answer prayers to certain members of the human race. So my question is Why?

simple answer......

think about it....let'us reason logically.....

What would happen if God did miracles at our whim? If a killer murdered a family member, and you prayed for your loved one to live again, would the murderer be a murderer and could he be punished? Was there even a crime coimmitted?

Would murders go up or down?

Think about the consequences. If there is a God, He is definitely smarter than any of us.

The just will live by faith..........(not by miracles)

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[Peikko 1,575]

Asking for your legs/arms back is a whim? I see.