is it necessary to send the I-29F copies to the foreign fiance?

[cwaf 1]

Hello!

I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but searching for the answer has not brought me any success. I have the step-by-step guidelines for the K1 visa process. I am trying to bring my fiance over from Ukraine, and we are in the 'waiting zone' between NOA1 and NOA2. My NOA1 was February 19th, so I know my case has to be getting close to being worked on. (I hope it is!) My question is: Do I need to send to my fiance the replica/copy of the original I29F that was submitted? The guide says to do so, but I am not sure why it is necessary since the original I-29F packet will be waiting at the embassy at the interview time. I know there are many other documents that I need to provide to my fiance, and the weight of this packet to be sent can be reduced greatly if I do not have to include that original paperwork.

I plan on being present for the interview and I had considered not even sending over the documents, but rather take them with me. However, I think I will send them over, anyway, just in case something should happen to my schedule and I am prevented from attending the interview. That way, she would still have the documents necessary to complete the interview process. I am trying to get all documents completed as soon as possible, with only the statement from my bank and my paycheck stubs to gather at the last moment. The timing is such, for us, that I would really like her to be here before the school year starts in mid-August, so I need to make sure there are no delays caused by US. I am confident that Sveta has already gathered almost all of her documents needed. She has applied for the police reports for both her and her 17 year old daughter (neither have ever had legal trouble and have always lived in the same city), and she was informed those should be in within 2 or 3 weeks. The only other document is the notarized statement from her ex-husband that allows her to take their daughter out of the country-and that should happen in the next week or two. I am not even convinced that it is necessary to have this form since she is 17, but we will produce that document, anyway! They both had their physical exams on May 8th. We want to be ready to schedule an interview immediately (if possible) once the approved package has arrived at the embassy in Kiev. We have already downloaded the next packet from the Kiev Embassy website, and filled out and printed the applications and the checklist.

on a different, but related question, do we need to show copies of my birth certificate, marraige license, and divorce decree at the interview? I can send over copies, if needed, but that stupid divorce decree here in Indiana is many pages thick! I thought I was going to get a single certified page when I went to the city records to request it, but I was given a stapled stack of pages that the court says was the official divorce decree. And, of course, since I needed a certified copy, every page had to be stamped and certified and it cost me a small fortune!

thanks, and now back to 'the waiting game'.

[payxibka 10,045]

Not required... unless you want her to know information contained within...

Kyiv will not want to see your BC, ML or DD at the interview...

The non custodial parental consent may be waived but do not expect it... It may also be required to be shown at exit from the airport... my wife was requested by the border control officer for it when we departed KBP.

[cwaf 1]

Not required... unless you want her to know information contained within...

Kyiv will not want to see your BC, ML or DD at the interview...

The non custodial parental consent may be waived but do not expect it... It may also be required to be shown at exit from the airport... my wife was requested by the border control officer for it when we departed KBP.

Thanks! Will they possibly ask her questions at the interview about the information on those, such as when was I divorced and/or previously married? She knows my birthday, so that should not be a problem! Will I be allowed in the interview room with her? Will her daughter be allowed/required to be in there? I am hoping all of us can be in there at the same time.

We will go ahead and get the parental consent form completed--just to be safe!

[pushbrk 12,877]

Not required... unless you want her to know information contained within...

Kyiv will not want to see your BC, ML or DD at the interview...

The non custodial parental consent may be waived but do not expect it... It may also be required to be shown at exit from the airport... my wife was requested by the border control officer for it when we departed KBP.

The purpose in sending copies of what is filed, is primarily as reference to educate the beneficiary. I sent it all but used priority mail. No big expense.

[payxibka 10,045]

Not required... unless you want her to know information contained within...

Kyiv will not want to see your BC, ML or DD at the interview...

The non custodial parental consent may be waived but do not expect it... It may also be required to be shown at exit from the airport... my wife was requested by the border control officer for it when we departed KBP.

Thanks! Will they possibly ask her questions at the interview about the information on those, such as when was I divorced and/or previously married? She knows my birthday, so that should not be a problem! Will I be allowed in the interview room with her? Will her daughter be allowed/required to be in there? I am hoping all of us can be in there at the same time.

We will go ahead and get the parental consent form completed--just to be safe!

Just so you understand something... there is NO interview room... the interview is conducted at a "window".

As for the questions to be asked.. nobody can say for sure... My wife was asked zero questions. This seems to be a current trend in Kyiv to ask no or very few questions (if your documentation is complete).

A K-2 applicant is required to attend if aged 14 or older (I believe).

[cwaf 1]

Not required... unless you want her to know information contained within...

Kyiv will not want to see your BC, ML or DD at the interview...

The non custodial parental consent may be waived but do not expect it... It may also be required to be shown at exit from the airport... my wife was requested by the border control officer for it when we departed KBP.

Thanks! Will they possibly ask her questions at the interview about the information on those, such as when was I divorced and/or previously married? She knows my birthday, so that should not be a problem! Will I be allowed in the interview room with her? Will her daughter be allowed/required to be in there? I am hoping all of us can be in there at the same time.

We will go ahead and get the parental consent form completed--just to be safe!

Just so you understand something... there is NO interview room... the interview is conducted at a "window".

As for the questions to be asked.. nobody can say for sure... My wife was asked zero questions. This seems to be a current trend in Kyiv to ask no or very few questions (if your documentation is complete).

A K-2 applicant is required to attend if aged 14 or older (I believe).

Thanks for the info! We have been reconsidering me traveling over for the visa interview. Since I am short on vacation time, I may wait and fly after the interview so I know I can bring them back with me. We know they can probably fly to the USA on their own, but there is some fear of flying for at least one of them--maybe both. ;-) I want to make the trip as comfortable as possible for them. Of course, if we consider the money, it would be better for me to just meet them here in the USA. decisions decisions!

[Natalya-Dmitriy 0]

Hello!

I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but searching for the answer has not brought me any success. I have the step-by-step guidelines for the K1 visa process. I am trying to bring my fiance over from Ukraine, and we are in the 'waiting zone' between NOA1 and NOA2. My NOA1 was February 19th, so I know my case has to be getting close to being worked on. (I hope it is!) My question is: Do I need to send to my fiance the replica/copy of the original I29F that was submitted? The guide says to do so, but I am not sure why it is necessary since the original I-29F packet will be waiting at the embassy at the interview time. I know there are many other documents that I need to provide to my fiance, and the weight of this packet to be sent can be reduced greatly if I do not have to include that original paperwork.

I plan on being present for the interview and I had considered not even sending over the documents, but rather take them with me. However, I think I will send them over, anyway, just in case something should happen to my schedule and I am prevented from attending the interview. That way, she would still have the documents necessary to complete the interview process. I am trying to get all documents completed as soon as possible, with only the statement from my bank and my paycheck stubs to gather at the last moment. The timing is such, for us, that I would really like her to be here before the school year starts in mid-August, so I need to make sure there are no delays caused by US. I am confident that Sveta has already gathered almost all of her documents needed. She has applied for the police reports for both her and her 17 year old daughter (neither have ever had legal trouble and have always lived in the same city), and she was informed those should be in within 2 or 3 weeks. The only other document is the notarized statement from her ex-husband that allows her to take their daughter out of the country-and that should happen in the next week or two. I am not even convinced that it is necessary to have this form since she is 17, but we will produce that document, anyway! They both had their physical exams on May 8th. We want to be ready to schedule an interview immediately (if possible) once the approved package has arrived at the embassy in Kiev. We have already downloaded the next packet from the Kiev Embassy website, and filled out and printed the applications and the checklist.

on a different, but related question, do we need to show copies of my birth certificate, marraige license, and divorce decree at the interview? I can send over copies, if needed, but that stupid divorce decree here in Indiana is many pages thick! I thought I was going to get a single certified page when I went to the city records to request it, but I was given a stapled stack of pages that the court says was the official divorce decree. And, of course, since I needed a certified copy, every page had to be stamped and certified and it cost me a small fortune!

thanks, and now back to 'the waiting game'.

I am sorry, maybe I misunderstand something... Why do we need to have a certified copies of devorce decree???

[payxibka 10,045]

Hello!

I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but searching for the answer has not brought me any success. I have the step-by-step guidelines for the K1 visa process. I am trying to bring my fiance over from Ukraine, and we are in the 'waiting zone' between NOA1 and NOA2. My NOA1 was February 19th, so I know my case has to be getting close to being worked on. (I hope it is!) My question is: Do I need to send to my fiance the replica/copy of the original I29F that was submitted? The guide says to do so, but I am not sure why it is necessary since the original I-29F packet will be waiting at the embassy at the interview time. I know there are many other documents that I need to provide to my fiance, and the weight of this packet to be sent can be reduced greatly if I do not have to include that original paperwork.

I plan on being present for the interview and I had considered not even sending over the documents, but rather take them with me. However, I think I will send them over, anyway, just in case something should happen to my schedule and I am prevented from attending the interview. That way, she would still have the documents necessary to complete the interview process. I am trying to get all documents completed as soon as possible, with only the statement from my bank and my paycheck stubs to gather at the last moment. The timing is such, for us, that I would really like her to be here before the school year starts in mid-August, so I need to make sure there are no delays caused by US. I am confident that Sveta has already gathered almost all of her documents needed. She has applied for the police reports for both her and her 17 year old daughter (neither have ever had legal trouble and have always lived in the same city), and she was informed those should be in within 2 or 3 weeks. The only other document is the notarized statement from her ex-husband that allows her to take their daughter out of the country-and that should happen in the next week or two. I am not even convinced that it is necessary to have this form since she is 17, but we will produce that document, anyway! They both had their physical exams on May 8th. We want to be ready to schedule an interview immediately (if possible) once the approved package has arrived at the embassy in Kiev. We have already downloaded the next packet from the Kiev Embassy website, and filled out and printed the applications and the checklist.

on a different, but related question, do we need to show copies of my birth certificate, marraige license, and divorce decree at the interview? I can send over copies, if needed, but that stupid divorce decree here in Indiana is many pages thick! I thought I was going to get a single certified page when I went to the city records to request it, but I was given a stapled stack of pages that the court says was the official divorce decree. And, of course, since I needed a certified copy, every page had to be stamped and certified and it cost me a small fortune!

thanks, and now back to 'the waiting game'.

I am sorry, maybe I misunderstand something... Why do we need to have a certified copies of devorce decree???

The only information required from the USC for the visa interview is the I-134 and supporting documents and any relationship evidence....

The Embassy website has the information packet available for download and review. It has detailed instructions as to exactly what documents the applicant is required to have. If you follow this checklist there should be no questions or problems.

[Natalya-Dmitriy 0]

Hello!

I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but searching for the answer has not brought me any success. I have the step-by-step guidelines for the K1 visa process. I am trying to bring my fiance over from Ukraine, and we are in the 'waiting zone' between NOA1 and NOA2. My NOA1 was February 19th, so I know my case has to be getting close to being worked on. (I hope it is!) My question is: Do I need to send to my fiance the replica/copy of the original I29F that was submitted? The guide says to do so, but I am not sure why it is necessary since the original I-29F packet will be waiting at the embassy at the interview time. I know there are many other documents that I need to provide to my fiance, and the weight of this packet to be sent can be reduced greatly if I do not have to include that original paperwork.

I plan on being present for the interview and I had considered not even sending over the documents, but rather take them with me. However, I think I will send them over, anyway, just in case something should happen to my schedule and I am prevented from attending the interview. That way, she would still have the documents necessary to complete the interview process. I am trying to get all documents completed as soon as possible, with only the statement from my bank and my paycheck stubs to gather at the last moment. The timing is such, for us, that I would really like her to be here before the school year starts in mid-August, so I need to make sure there are no delays caused by US. I am confident that Sveta has already gathered almost all of her documents needed. She has applied for the police reports for both her and her 17 year old daughter (neither have ever had legal trouble and have always lived in the same city), and she was informed those should be in within 2 or 3 weeks. The only other document is the notarized statement from her ex-husband that allows her to take their daughter out of the country-and that should happen in the next week or two. I am not even convinced that it is necessary to have this form since she is 17, but we will produce that document, anyway! They both had their physical exams on May 8th. We want to be ready to schedule an interview immediately (if possible) once the approved package has arrived at the embassy in Kiev. We have already downloaded the next packet from the Kiev Embassy website, and filled out and printed the applications and the checklist.

on a different, but related question, do we need to show copies of my birth certificate, marraige license, and divorce decree at the interview? I can send over copies, if needed, but that stupid divorce decree here in Indiana is many pages thick! I thought I was going to get a single certified page when I went to the city records to request it, but I was given a stapled stack of pages that the court says was the official divorce decree. And, of course, since I needed a certified copy, every page had to be stamped and certified and it cost me a small fortune!

thanks, and now back to 'the waiting game'.

I am sorry, maybe I misunderstand something... Why do we need to have a certified copies of devorce decree???

The only information required from the USC for the visa interview is the I-134 and supporting documents and any relationship evidence....

The Embassy website has the information packet available for download and review. It has detailed instructions as to exactly what documents the applicant is required to have. If you follow this checklist there should be no questions or problems.

I read those instructions very carefully, and I did follow everything they say. But I did not find anywhere where they say about certified copies of divorce decree. I do not think that divorce decree must be certified.

[payxibka 10,045]

I read those instructions very carefully, and I did follow everything they say. But I did not find anywhere where they say about certified copies of divorce decree. I do not think that divorce decree must be certified.

For teh USC, NOT required

For the applicant,

DIVORCE/DEATH CERTIFICATES: Divorce decree as a proof of the termination of any previous marriage must also be submitted. If the spouse is deceased, a death certificate should be submitted. Divorce decrees must be obtained at the local registrar’s office (RAGS). Court decrees terminating marriage are not acceptable.

You do not think that a court decree obtained from RAGS will not have "certification" stamps?

[Natalya-Dmitriy 0]

I read those instructions very carefully, and I did follow everything they say. But I did not find anywhere where they say about certified copies of divorce decree. I do not think that divorce decree must be certified.

For teh USC, NOT required

For the applicant,

DIVORCE/DEATH CERTIFICATES: Divorce decree as a proof of the termination of any previous marriage must also be submitted. If the spouse is deceased, a death certificate should be submitted. Divorce decrees must be obtained at the local registrar’s office (RAGS). Court decrees terminating marriage are not acceptable.

You do not think that a court decree obtained from RAGS will not have "certification" stamps?

What is RAGS? Where can I find the local office? Is it for the petitioner or for the beneficiary?

Edited June 24, 2008 by Natalya-Dmitriy

[payxibka 10,045]

I read those instructions very carefully, and I did follow everything they say. But I did not find anywhere where they say about certified copies of divorce decree. I do not think that divorce decree must be certified.

For teh USC, NOT required

For the applicant,

DIVORCE/DEATH CERTIFICATES: Divorce decree as a proof of the termination of any previous marriage must also be submitted. If the spouse is deceased, a death certificate should be submitted. Divorce decrees must be obtained at the local registrar’s office (RAGS). Court decrees terminating marriage are not acceptable.

You do not think that a court decree obtained from RAGS will not have "certification" stamps?

Wow. I missed this. What is RAGS and where can I find the local office? Is there a website?

Who are you? The USC or the alien?

RAGS is the official agency where Ukrainians have the legal marriage ceremony. There is typically one located in every city.

[Natalya-Dmitriy 0]

I read those instructions very carefully, and I did follow everything they say. But I did not find anywhere where they say about certified copies of divorce decree. I do not think that divorce decree must be certified.

For teh USC, NOT required

For the applicant,

DIVORCE/DEATH CERTIFICATES: Divorce decree as a proof of the termination of any previous marriage must also be submitted. If the spouse is deceased, a death certificate should be submitted. Divorce decrees must be obtained at the local registrar’s office (RAGS). Court decrees terminating marriage are not acceptable.

You do not think that a court decree obtained from RAGS will not have "certification" stamps?

Wow. I missed this. What is RAGS and where can I find the local office? Is there a website?

Who are you? The USC or the alien?

RAGS is the official agency where Ukrainians have the legal marriage ceremony. There is typically one located in every city.

Acctualy, in Ukraine it called ZAGS. But anyway, I understand it was for the beneficiary, not for the USC.

[payxibka 10,045]

I have been telling you for a few posts now that for the USC, nothing is required other than the financial support and relationship evidence.

RAGS/ZAGS all the same.

[Natalya-Dmitriy 0]

I have been telling you for a few posts now that for the USC, nothing is required other than the financial support and relationship evidence.

RAGS/ZAGS all the same.

Originally, the statement was

"...that stupid divorce decree here in Indiana is many pages thick! I thought I was going to get a single certified page when I went to the city records to request it, but I was given a stapled stack of pages that the court says was the official divorce decree. And, of course, since I needed a certified copy, every page had to be stamped and certified and it cost me a small fortune!" It does not look the poster was talking about divorce decree from "Ukrainian ZAGS/RAGS all the same". To me it looked like the poster was talking about divorce decree in Indiana. So I asked a question "I am sorry, maybe I misunderstand something... Why do we need to have a certified copies of divorce decree???"