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Geraldine Ferraro, calling Barack Obama "sexist," may not back him

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What a wierd accusation. I haven't read/heard anything that leads me to believe that one of Barack's faults is sexism.

I don't he deserves it at all. But some of his supporters/the media clearly do. Chris Matthews is the first that springs to mind.

I agree. chris matthews has been incredibly offensive. It's surprising how far he's permitted to go on mainstream media. I understand people spewing on talk radio, but shouldn't he be called out for it?

I'm hoping that this open discussion will encourage people like Matthews to look at themselves and engage in a bit of self-reflection. Maybe he'll look at why he says what he says and how it impacts his own daughters.

Maybe it's better that it's out in the open. Then we can address it directly.

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I don't know who Chris Matthews is - he sounds like quite the guy though.

He has a show called Hardball on MSNBC. He's an Obama supporter but I kind of wish he'd stop talking about it...

He doesn't help the cause. He's more irritating and embarassing than anything. I'm an Obama supporter, but I don't agree with trashing Clinton based on her gender. I don't mind people taking jabs at her politics and negative campagn style however...

Here's a link the NYTimes magazine article about him. It's long but page 1 describes him pretty well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/magazine...amp;oref=slogin

Summer 2001--we met in Manzanillo, Mexico

10/02--129F submitted (We had 1 RFE)

7/03--Interview in Ciudad Juarez

2/15/04--Married

4/2/04--AOS submitted

8/23/04--Interview in Chula Vista, CA (approved pending name check)

5 EADs, 3 APs, multiple Senators' inquiries and infopass appts, 2 AOS biometrics,

and one move to Seattle later...

3/3/08--AOS Biometrics renewal in Seattle

6/9/08--10 year green card arrived in the mail. My husband is no longer in immigration limbo and is a realio, trulio permanent resident! It says he's been a resident since 04/17/2008.

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I don't know who Chris Matthews is - he sounds like quite the guy though.

He has a show called Hardball on MSNBC. He's an Obama supporter but I kind of wish he'd stop talking about it...

He doesn't help the cause. He's more irritating and embarassing than anything. I'm an Obama supporter, but I don't agree with trashing Clinton based on her gender. I don't mind people taking jabs at her politics and negative campagn style however...

Here's a link the NYTimes magazine article about him. It's long but page 1 describes him pretty well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/magazine...amp;oref=slogin

when he compares the Obama campaign to the New Testament - that's when I need to reach for the sick bucket

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

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lol.. to me is just sounds like they are grasping at straws trying to find something wrong with obama.. like writing an article about obama calling someone sweetie :lol:

and just to put this out there,, I am neither for or against Obama... I just find all this political stuff amusing both sides seem to try and drag the other side down ...

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lol.. to me is just sounds like they are grasping at straws trying to find something wrong with obama.. like writing an article about obama calling someone sweetie :lol:

and just to put this out there,, I am neither for or against Obama... I just find all this political stuff amusing both sides seem to try and drag the other side down ...

Not grasping at straws Marilyn, just showing the divisions among the dem party. But somehow the poster must take credit for the content. I don't understand it but if that is what the Obamabots want then so be it.

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

We are not 100% behind McCain, that is true. But I don't see almost half of us saying they will vote for Obama either.

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

Maybe this division in both parties will lead us away from the 2 party system. Dunno.

On the other hand, all of my friends who voted for Clinton in the primary have said they will vote for Obama in the fall. I don't know if all is lost. There will of course be people who will not vote for him b/c of the color of his skin and his name, but are the majority of those people Democrats anyway? Obama has raised more money than any other primary candidate-ever. That has to be a good sign.

Summer 2001--we met in Manzanillo, Mexico

10/02--129F submitted (We had 1 RFE)

7/03--Interview in Ciudad Juarez

2/15/04--Married

4/2/04--AOS submitted

8/23/04--Interview in Chula Vista, CA (approved pending name check)

5 EADs, 3 APs, multiple Senators' inquiries and infopass appts, 2 AOS biometrics,

and one move to Seattle later...

3/3/08--AOS Biometrics renewal in Seattle

6/9/08--10 year green card arrived in the mail. My husband is no longer in immigration limbo and is a realio, trulio permanent resident! It says he's been a resident since 04/17/2008.

1/17/11--Apply for Citizenship

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

Maybe this division in both parties will lead us away from the 2 party system. Dunno.

On the other hand, all of my friends who voted for Clinton in the primary have said they will vote for Obama in the fall. I don't know if all is lost. There will of course be people who will not vote for him b/c of the color of his skin and his name, but are the majority of those people Democrats anyway? Obama has raised more money than any other primary candidate-ever. That has to be a good sign.

True- I think the positivism will outflood the negative forces in this election. To the detriment of those that use dirty tactics and pathetic politics.

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

Maybe this division in both parties will lead us away from the 2 party system. Dunno.

On the other hand, all of my friends who voted for Clinton in the primary have said they will vote for Obama in the fall. I don't know if all is lost. There will of course be people who will not vote for him b/c of the color of his skin and his name, but are the majority of those people Democrats anyway? Obama has raised more money than any other primary candidate-ever. That has to be a good sign.

I think this election will hinge on who can turnout the most voters, where I think Obama has an edge since he is able to attract voters who do not normally turn up at the polls (young people/African Americans). Although I do believe McCain is attractive to swing voters and conservative Democrats.

It's interesting that even at the recent Republican Primaries, Ron Paul is still attracting up to 10% of the votes.

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3 out of the top 4 posts are about Dems....have been started by Gary.... :wacko:

There is an incredible number of stories about Obama's flaws. I pass up far more than I post. It seems the media has finally stopped worshiping Obama and has started seeing him for what he is. The chances of an Obama presidency are going down by the day.

I haven't thought he's had a chance since day one...but mainly because people will only see skin color, and will obsess about his name.

Honestly though Gary, it's not like the Republicans are 100% behind their man either. How many times just on VJ have I heard that someone who votes Republican won't be voting this fall? hmmm, even YOU said that at one point.

Maybe this division in both parties will lead us away from the 2 party system. Dunno.

On the other hand, all of my friends who voted for Clinton in the primary have said they will vote for Obama in the fall. I don't know if all is lost. There will of course be people who will not vote for him b/c of the color of his skin and his name, but are the majority of those people Democrats anyway? Obama has raised more money than any other primary candidate-ever. That has to be a good sign.

I think this election will hinge on who can turnout the most voters, where I think Obama has an edge since he is able to attract voters who do not normally turn up at the polls (young people/African Americans). Although I do believe McCain is attractive to swing voters and conservative Democrats.

It's interesting that even at the recent Republican Primaries, Ron Paul is still attracting up to 10% of the votes.

There is a demographic that doesn't get much mention. The older baby boomers. With these voters McCain's age works in his favor. The boomers are also the biggest group also I think.

 

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