Muslims

[nunyab 0]

great going to the airport in the morning... better leave early may need some extra "Random" checks

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Sh. Hamza's Eid Khutbah:

Imam Zaid's Eid khutbah

[~Jackie~ 30]

The first 1:30 minutes are arabic then in English.

Thank you for posting this rahmaa.

Jackie

[morocco4ever 63]

I heard this on the news this morning. From what I have heard there are people that are claiming that it is talking about Islam and Satan, and that it is "spouting hate". #######?? The only thing I heard it say is "Islam is the light". Is that spouting hate? Okay I understand that any type of religious message should be stated as such on the box, but isn't this being blown out of proportion a bit?

http://www.thecooljew.net/2008/10/target-s...m-is-light.html

[doodlebugg 10]

I heard this on the news this morning. From what I have heard there are people that are claiming that it is talking about Islam and Satan, and that it is "spouting hate". #######?? The only thing I heard it say is "Islam is the light". Is that spouting hate? Okay I understand that any type of religious message should be stated as such on the box, but isn't this being blown out of proportion a bit?

http://www.thecooljew.net/2008/10/target-s...m-is-light.html

I think that the doll also says "Satan is king" and that's where some of the hubbub is coming from. They just didn't show it on the video. In any event who the heck would program a doll to say anything religious whatsoever unless it was marketed that way? Very weird!!!! I wonder if she really does say "Islam is the light" though. "is the light" is discernable but the word "Islam" isn't. She might be saying something else.

[morocco4ever 63]

I didn't hear anything about "Satan is the King", and you would think that they would have shown that on the news clip if they are going to claim that it is spouting hate.

Does it make you wonder if someone did intentionally program the dolls to say those things, are is it simply a misunderstanding of what the doll is actually saying?

[caybee 21]

I heard this on the news this morning. From what I have heard there are people that are claiming that it is talking about Islam and Satan, and that it is "spouting hate". #######?? The only thing I heard it say is "Islam is the light". Is that spouting hate? Okay I understand that any type of religious message should be stated as such on the box, but isn't this being blown out of proportion a bit?

http://www.thecooljew.net/2008/10/target-s...m-is-light.html

I think that the doll also says "Satan is king" and that's where some of the hubbub is coming from. They just didn't show it on the video. In any event who the heck would program a doll to say anything religious whatsoever unless it was marketed that way? Very weird!!!! I wonder if she really does say "Islam is the light" though. "is the light" is discernable but the word "Islam" isn't. She might be saying something else.

I don't know if I would have heard that phrase had I not been expecting it. People hear what they expect to hear. I work in closed captioning where we transcribe television programs, and quite frequently, one of us will listen to a phrase over and over and still not understand what is being said. We call a coworker in to listen to that snippet, but we don't tell them what we think we are hearing because then their brain will expect to hear that. Most of the time, someone with a fresh ear can step in and hear it clearly, and it's often nothing like what the original listener thought it might be.

This stuff pops up every few years with these silly talking dolls and their indistinct mechanical voices. Wasn't Elmo or some other talking doll supposed to be saying something Satanic several years ago? Back then, there were Satanists lurking around every corner waiting to kidnap and sacrifice innocent kids. Pedophiles were supposedly sneaking sexual language into Disney dolls. Now Muslims are gonna brainwash the unsuspecting babies, oh noes! There are plenty of talking dolls out there legitimately marketed as using religious language. To suggest that Fisher-Price is somehow trying to implant a phrase into a child's brain and "turn 'em Muslim" is pure nonsense. Even if it were some big plot to introduce kids to Islam at an early age, why on earth would they throw in the "Satan is King" part?? What Muslim believes that? This whole thing just demonstrates where people's current prejudices and fears lie and who the bogeyman of the day is.

A telling experiment would be to put the phrase in a sound file and ask several individuals with "unpolluted" ears what they thought the doll was saying. I'll bet you'd get as many answers as you had listeners.

[morocco4ever 63]

I vaguely remember where they were claiming there were phrases in Disney videos, but I don't remember at the moment the context of those phrases.

I think you are right, they need to test it without planting ideas in their heads. Of course no one from the Islam faith would have recorded "Satan is the king" if the goal was to convert anyone into Islam. I guess if someone was out to make Islam look bad they might have done this. But that would really be overboard.

[nunyab 0]

yeah i remember that.... but don't remember who or what doll said it

[morocco4ever 63]

Perhaps it was a disgruntled employee that just started a rumor. Who really knows. It is just a shame when a religion has to become a target.

[doodlebugg 10]

well where I work the phrase is "cash is king".

Maybe if they programmed every doll on earth with that phrase eventually we'd climb out of this economic nightmare that we're in today.

[HLM 1]

well where I work the phrase is "cash is king".

Maybe if they programmed every doll on earth with that phrase eventually we'd climb out of this economic nightmare that we're in today.

lol

[nunyab 0]

Gotta question has anyone seen anything on how the Umma is going with the presidential elections?

[doodlebugg 10]

Gotta question has anyone seen anything on how the Umma is going with the presidential elections?

From what I've read on various blogs a lot are pro-Obama, though I'm not sure why. He was being accused of being Muslim at one point and vehemently denied it. fine, but why not also vehemently state that there's nothing at all WRONG with being Muslim?

[morocco4ever 63]

well where I work the phrase is "cash is king".

Maybe if they programmed every doll on earth with that phrase eventually we'd climb out of this economic nightmare that we're in today.

Gotta question has anyone seen anything on how the Umma is going with the presidential elections?

From what I've read on various blogs a lot are pro-Obama, though I'm not sure why. He was being accused of being Muslim at one point and vehemently denied it. fine, but why not also vehemently state that there's nothing at all WRONG with being Muslim?

You hit the nail on the head. I was thinking the same thing. I suspect he feels that way but the way a large amount of Americans view Muslims it could possibly cause him to lose votes. What a sad world we live in.