Muslims

[Nothing1234 2]

We had a great coalition of the Muslim Students Association and assorted leftists/socialists/communists/etc who put up a pretty good ruckus. We organized a speaker for afterwards who did a great job of countering Pipe's speech.

I just just a bundle of nerves throughout the entire thing. I had to keep getting up and walking out, I was getting so p*ssed.

Rahma...You know everyone. It's amazing!

LOL, not everyone. He was a pretty popular speaker on college campuses after 9/11. We were just *privileged* to be one of the institutions he graced with his prescence. bleck!

My favorite saying Bleck

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Did you know that there are an estimate 2-7 million Muslims living in the United States? It is difficult to pinpoint the exact number since, as New York Post reporter Daniel Pipes explains, the U.S. Census cannot, by law, ask questions about religion. For more on how many Muslims live in the United States, see Pipes' blog.

:no: :no:

Ooo, I didn't see that. I had a run in with Pipes in college. It did not go well.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2003/05/01/wu..._in_the_spo.php

I'm continually astounded to see people in this forum cite neocon Zionist Islamophobes such as Pipes, Thomas Friedman, etc. as any kind of credible experts on Islam, the Middle East, etc. (or anything, really.)

From Rahma's link:

Moderate to Pipes means don’t challenge the United State’s legitimacy in Iraq, Afghanistan, of the settlements in Palestine, and don’t challenge the State of Israel. If you dare challenge our right-wing agenda in any way, we will draw a direct link between you and Osama Bin Ladin or the axis of evil; ahh #### it, we’ll just throw you in detainment in Guantanamo Bay, it’s not like you even have the right to a trial anymore anyway.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

During the Q&A section, a sister asked him how he defined "moderate muslim." I don't remember much beyond that he named Salman Rushdie as an example. After that I was in shock

If you believe "Islam is the solution," you were an islamist radical terrorist blah blah blah.

[Henia 11]

During the Q&A section, a sister asked him how he defined "moderate muslim." I don't remember much beyond that he named Salman Rushdie as an example. After that I was in shock

If you believe "Islam is the solution," you were an islamist radical terrorist blah blah blah.

WAW that's funny! The average Muslim is moderate! Our Prophet (saw) was moderate! But I guess post 9-11 the meaning has changed ... alot! But I wonder who all these "radicals" are following?

[Nothing1234 2]

Did you know that there are an estimate 2-7 million Muslims living in the United States? It is difficult to pinpoint the exact number since, as New York Post reporter Daniel Pipes explains, the U.S. Census cannot, by law, ask questions about religion. For more on how many Muslims live in the United States, see Pipes' blog.

:no: :no:

Ooo, I didn't see that. I had a run in with Pipes in college. It did not go well.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2003/05/01/wu..._in_the_spo.php

I'm continually astounded to see people in this forum cite neocon Zionist Islamophobes such as Pipes, Thomas Friedman, etc. as any kind of credible experts on Islam, the Middle East, etc. (or anything, really.)

From Rahma's link:

Moderate to Pipes means don’t challenge the United State’s legitimacy in Iraq, Afghanistan, of the settlements in Palestine, and don’t challenge the State of Israel. If you dare challenge our right-wing agenda in any way, we will draw a direct link between you and Osama Bin Ladin or the axis of evil; ahh #### it, we’ll just throw you in detainment in Guantanamo Bay, it’s not like you even have the right to a trial anymore anyway.

It actually was a copy paste from an email and I wanted to remove (which I thought I had the reference to him) however, mistakes happen. Should I bend over so you can kick me and "the others" that have astounded you? Give me a break...no offense I thought it was a fun fact email. You can tell it as the links were not posted that I was not referencing his blog.

I am continually astounded by the madness of attacks across this board. Instead of asking "was this your intention" a majority of people love to fly down your throat and hang off your tonsils. I personally would never intentionally promote/cite a Zionist, however, with that said, this is America and if I did...I'd have every right.

Salamz Enjoy your holiday weekend with your families.

Edited August 29, 2008 by Nawal

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Did you know that there are an estimate 2-7 million Muslims living in the United States? It is difficult to pinpoint the exact number since, as New York Post reporter Daniel Pipes explains, the U.S. Census cannot, by law, ask questions about religion. For more on how many Muslims live in the United States, see Pipes' blog.

:no: :no:

Ooo, I didn't see that. I had a run in with Pipes in college. It did not go well.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2003/05/01/wu..._in_the_spo.php

I'm continually astounded to see people in this forum cite neocon Zionist Islamophobes such as Pipes, Thomas Friedman, etc. as any kind of credible experts on Islam, the Middle East, etc. (or anything, really.)

From Rahma's link:

Moderate to Pipes means don’t challenge the United State’s legitimacy in Iraq, Afghanistan, of the settlements in Palestine, and don’t challenge the State of Israel. If you dare challenge our right-wing agenda in any way, we will draw a direct link between you and Osama Bin Ladin or the axis of evil; ahh #### it, we’ll just throw you in detainment in Guantanamo Bay, it’s not like you even have the right to a trial anymore anyway.

It actually was a copy paste from an email and I wanted to remove (which I thought I had the reference to him) however, mistakes happen. Should I bend over so you can kick me and "the others" that have astounded you? Give me a break...no offense I thought it was a fun fact email. You can tell it as the links were not posted that I was not referencing his blog.

I am continually astounded by the madness of attacks across this board. Instead of asking "was this your intention" a majority of people love to fly down your throat and hang off your tonsils. I personally would never intentionally promote/cite a Zionist, however, with that said, this is America and if I did...I'd have every right.

Salamz Enjoy your holiday weekend with your families.

#1. No one is attacking *you* -- I (and others) are commenting on what you posted. In fact, I think you're a very nice person who makes a lot of great contributions to this board. I certainly don't want to kick you, or fly down your throat, or hang off your tonsils, or whatever else you are imagining, nor do I see a "majority" of people (or even anyone) doing that to you. Try not to perceive disagreement or critical commentaray on a post as some kind of personal attack -- because it isn't.

#2. I have no way of knowing that you are cutting and pasting something unless you put quotes on it and post the link, and I certainly have no way of knowing that you don't agree with what you posted unless you say so. So give *me* a break for commenting on what you actually wrote.

#3. Of course you have the right to promote or cite anything you like.

#4. Certainly mistakes happen. Thanks for letting us know it was a mistake !

Salamat

[Nothing1234 2]

Did you know that there are an estimate 2-7 million Muslims living in the United States? It is difficult to pinpoint the exact number since, as New York Post reporter Daniel Pipes explains, the U.S. Census cannot, by law, ask questions about religion. For more on how many Muslims live in the United States, see Pipes' blog.

:no: :no:

Ooo, I didn't see that. I had a run in with Pipes in college. It did not go well.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2003/05/01/wu..._in_the_spo.php

I'm continually astounded to see people in this forum cite neocon Zionist Islamophobes such as Pipes, Thomas Friedman, etc. as any kind of credible experts on Islam, the Middle East, etc. (or anything, really.)

From Rahma's link:

Moderate to Pipes means don’t challenge the United State’s legitimacy in Iraq, Afghanistan, of the settlements in Palestine, and don’t challenge the State of Israel. If you dare challenge our right-wing agenda in any way, we will draw a direct link between you and Osama Bin Ladin or the axis of evil; ahh #### it, we’ll just throw you in detainment in Guantanamo Bay, it’s not like you even have the right to a trial anymore anyway.

It actually was a copy paste from an email and I wanted to remove (which I thought I had the reference to him) however, mistakes happen. Should I bend over so you can kick me and "the others" that have astounded you? Give me a break...no offense I thought it was a fun fact email. You can tell it as the links were not posted that I was not referencing his blog.

I am continually astounded by the madness of attacks across this board. Instead of asking "was this your intention" a majority of people love to fly down your throat and hang off your tonsils. I personally would never intentionally promote/cite a Zionist, however, with that said, this is America and if I did...I'd have every right.

Salamz Enjoy your holiday weekend with your families.

#1. No one is attacking *you* -- I (and others) are commenting on what you posted. In fact, I think you're a very nice person who makes a lot of great contributions to this board. I certainly don't want to kick you, or fly down your throat, or hang off your tonsils, or whatever else you are imagining, nor do I see a "majority" of people (or even anyone) doing that to you. Try not to perceive disagreement or critical commentaray on a post as some kind of personal attack -- because it isn't.

#2. I have no way of knowing that you are cutting and pasting something unless you put quotes on it and post the link, and I certainly have no way of knowing that you don't agree with what you posted unless you say so. So give *me* a break for commenting on what you actually wrote.

#3. Of course you have the right to promote or cite anything you like.

#4. Certainly mistakes happen. Thanks for letting us know it was a mistake !

Salamat

[Mommy2ZaidnSalma 11]

Nawal, i wanna kiss your kids to death, I love Zains upside down smile

[Nothing1234 2]

WOM...

I JUST WANT TO SAY ...

Nawal

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

WOM...

I JUST WANT TO SAY ...

Nawal

Back atcha Nawal habibti !

-MK

[nunyab 0]

Gotta question..... about men and their beards??? Where does it say that a man should wear a beard with a fist full? I know I saw it somewhere now can't find it?

[Nothing1234 2]

Gotta question..... about men and their beards??? Where does it say that a man should wear a beard with a fist full? I know I saw it somewhere now can't find it?

What I found...

First: Fistful Beard

The following is reported in a hadith narrated by Imam Bukhari (RA):

“Oppose the Mushrikeen! Lengthen the beards and shorten the moustaches. When Hazrat Ibn Umar (RA) used to go for Hajj or ‘Umrah, he would take hold of his beard in his fist. Whatever amount of the beard was in excess of the fist, he would trim it.” (Bukhari vol. 2, pg. 875)

In another hadith the following words are used:

“Make the moustaches extremely short and lengthen the beards.” (Bukhari Vol. 2, pg. 875)

It is wajib to keep a beard to the extent of one fist just as it is wajib to perform witr salah, and the two ‘eid salats. All the four imams agree on this issue. Allamah Shaami writes:

“To trim the beard when it is shorter than one fist in length as practiced by some people of the west and the hermaphrodites, has not been permitted by anyone i.e. any scholar.”

Hazrat Thanwi (RA) writes in Behishti Zewar (Heavenly Ornaments), “It is haram to shave the beard as well as to trim it less than the length of one fist.” (Behishti Zewar section 11, pg. 115)

The word for beard in Arabic is lihyah which comes from the Arabic word for jaw. Therefore, the beard should be to the extent of one fist from the chin, the right side of the jaw, and the left side of the jaw, i.e. it should be the length of a fist from all three sides. Some people grow the beard to one fist from the chin but trim it to less than a fist from the sides. This is incorrect. If any one of the three sides of the beard has been shortened less than a fist, then this is a major sin.

[Tunisia216 2]

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Same thing I found Thanks Nawal!

Gotta question..... about men and their beards??? Where does it say that a man should wear a beard with a fist full? I know I saw it somewhere now can't find it?

What I found...

First: Fistful Beard

The following is reported in a hadith narrated by Imam Bukhari (RA):

“Oppose the Mushrikeen! Lengthen the beards and shorten the moustaches. When Hazrat Ibn Umar (RA) used to go for Hajj or ‘Umrah, he would take hold of his beard in his fist. Whatever amount of the beard was in excess of the fist, he would trim it.” (Bukhari vol. 2, pg. 875)

In another hadith the following words are used:

“Make the moustaches extremely short and lengthen the beards.” (Bukhari Vol. 2, pg. 875)

It is wajib to keep a beard to the extent of one fist just as it is wajib to perform witr salah, and the two ‘eid salats. All the four imams agree on this issue. Allamah Shaami writes:

“To trim the beard when it is shorter than one fist in length as practiced by some people of the west and the hermaphrodites, has not been permitted by anyone i.e. any scholar.”

Hazrat Thanwi (RA) writes in Behishti Zewar (Heavenly Ornaments), “It is haram to shave the beard as well as to trim it less than the length of one fist.” (Behishti Zewar section 11, pg. 115)

The word for beard in Arabic is lihyah which comes from the Arabic word for jaw. Therefore, the beard should be to the extent of one fist from the chin, the right side of the jaw, and the left side of the jaw, i.e. it should be the length of a fist from all three sides. Some people grow the beard to one fist from the chin but trim it to less than a fist from the sides. This is incorrect. If any one of the three sides of the beard has been shortened less than a fist, then this is a major sin.

[nunyab 0]

wow that's what i was looking for... my husband and I were discussing it versus the hijab.. he says the beard is "sunnah" and the hijab is "forjd" ??? not sure what he was saying does anyone have any insight to this?

and what is the (RA) mean?

[Nothing1234 2]

wow that's what i was looking for... my husband and I were discussing it versus the hijab.. he says the beard is "sunnah" and the hijab is "forjd" ??? not sure what he was saying does anyone have any insight to this?

and what is the (RA) mean?

Meaning his arguement is its a cultural thing for the beard and a religious requirment for hijab. There are many different views.