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[palilover 1]

Dumb question maybe. But how ocme some people write God as G-d? I saw that in Jewish sites (I don't remember why I was looking up Jewish site, lol) and now here.

There is the English word "god" which can refer to any number of gods. Of course our English word God refers to YHVH, which is His Holy Name. G-d is in rememberance for Elohim, the Hebrew title for "my God" (actually, grammatically, it's "the G-d of me") of as we would use "God." L-rd is in deference to the actual word Adonai, which means "my L-rd." (the L-rd of me). HaShem is another title which is sometimes used in replacement for either, which means "the Name."

For certain Orthodox groups, the usage of Elohim and Adonai are restricted to religious-only settings, and they will either stick with HaShem, Elokim (intentional mispronunciation), or AdoShem, etc.

The English way to account for the names in the texts is usually with capitalization. If you read an Eglish Bible, you'll see sometimes there is God, and sometimes GOD. GOD means Elohim was used in the Hebrew, and God is either El or something else like HaShem which was meant to replace the title. LORD is in replacement of Adonai. We really only have those two words we use as direct titles. YHVH is replaced with I AM quite often, and sometimes GOD. Sometimes they try to spell it out with vowels, but no one knows the vowel points anymore and it is not good to even try.

Some also say it is also to avoid erasing or using the name of G-d in vain, since you didn't fully write it out in the first place. It's a reverence across the board, though.

Hope that helped

aha yeah a little bit. I was just curious since I have lately seen it so much. thanks for the explanation

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

Dumb question maybe. But how ocme some people write God as G-d? I saw that in Jewish sites (I don't remember why I was looking up Jewish site, lol) and now here.

There is the English word "god" which can refer to any number of gods. Of course our English word God refers to YHVH, which is His Holy Name. G-d is in rememberance for Elohim, the Hebrew title for "my God" (actually, grammatically, it's "the G-d of me") of as we would use "God." L-rd is in deference to the actual word Adonai, which means "my L-rd." (the L-rd of me). HaShem is another title which is sometimes used in replacement for either, which means "the Name."

For certain Orthodox groups, the usage of Elohim and Adonai are restricted to religious-only settings, and they will either stick with HaShem, Elokim (intentional mispronunciation), or AdoShem, etc.

The English way to account for the names in the texts is usually with capitalization. If you read an Eglish Bible, you'll see sometimes there is God, and sometimes GOD. GOD means Elohim was used in the Hebrew, and God is either El or something else like HaShem which was meant to replace the title. LORD is in replacement of Adonai. We really only have those two words we use as direct titles. YHVH is replaced with I AM quite often, and sometimes GOD. Sometimes they try to spell it out with vowels, but no one knows the vowel points anymore and it is not good to even try.

Some also say it is also to avoid erasing or using the name of G-d in vain, since you didn't fully write it out in the first place. It's a reverence across the board, though.

Hope that helped

very true! and its shows the highest reverence to HIS Name ... and unfortuneately too many people take their Creators name in vain without thought to HIS Holiness... HIS Name is above any name on earth! !

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

Had a woman this week at my job talking on the phone and used GODS Name with a curse word... I said out loud... thats Blasphemy! and she didnt even budge... but the lady in front of me said .... yah thats right...

some people have no concept of that ...

[April and Mohamed 0]

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[nunyab 0]

Hey guys my BIL is coming into town tomorrow for a month, I'm getting nervous about having house guests. Gonna mop everything tonight. Let the games begin.

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[palilover 1]

Had a woman this week at my job talking on the phone and used GODS Name with a curse word... I said out loud... thats Blasphemy! and she didnt even budge... but the lady in front of me said .... yah thats right...

some people have no concept of that ...

But is it just blasephemy in Christianity or Islam as well? I once asked an arab friend if they had equivelent to our using God's name in vain and asked him if it was haram to say such things in Islam. And he had no clue what I was talking about and said that would not even make sense in his language.

[Nasturtium 500]

Had a woman this week at my job talking on the phone and used GODS Name with a curse word... I said out loud... thats Blasphemy! and she didnt even budge... but the lady in front of me said .... yah thats right...

some people have no concept of that ...

Was it really His Name (YHVH) or was it just the word G-d?

[Nasturtium 500]

Had a woman this week at my job talking on the phone and used GODS Name with a curse word... I said out loud... thats Blasphemy! and she didnt even budge... but the lady in front of me said .... yah thats right...

some people have no concept of that ...

But is it just blasephemy in Christianity or Islam as well? I once asked an arab friend if they had equivelent to our using God's name in vain and asked him if it was haram to say such things in Islam. And he had no clue what I was talking about and said that would not even make sense in his language.

Judaism and Christianity hold that using G-d's Name and any of the titles associated with G-d in a curse is a form of disrespect, although to sue the actual Name bears the penalty of death. Muslims in my experience have no problem saying "Allah" quite a bit, even as an exclamation in itself. I don't know if this is cultural or if it bears no religious penalty. lot's of people here say OMG, etc and don't think about it. I do it out of habit sometimes and try to watch it-- it's sort of a work in progress... but I know you really shouldn't as a kind of exclamation or curse.

[palilover 1]

Had a woman this week at my job talking on the phone and used GODS Name with a curse word... I said out loud... thats Blasphemy! and she didnt even budge... but the lady in front of me said .... yah thats right...

some people have no concept of that ...

But is it just blasephemy in Christianity or Islam as well? I once asked an arab friend if they had equivelent to our using God's name in vain and asked him if it was haram to say such things in Islam. And he had no clue what I was talking about and said that would not even make sense in his language.

Judaism and Christianity hold that using G-d's Name and any of the titles associated with G-d in a curse is a form of disrespect, although to sue the actual Name bears the penalty of death. Muslims in my experience have no problem saying "Allah" quite a bit, even as an exclamation in itself. I don't know if this is cultural or if it bears no religious penalty. lot's of people here say OMG, etc and don't think about it. I do it out of habit sometimes and try to watch it-- it's sort of a work in progress... but I know you really shouldn't as a kind of exclamation or curse.

yeah you are right. Muslims say Allah for everything. They even say "wallah" (I swear by Allah) when they aer lying! I think that is haram if you do that because you are using Allah/God's name and that is the highest you could do but you do it to lie? Go figure.

But as for saying things like "Oh my Allah" instead of OMG or insert any other choice phrase words we have in the English langauge that could be used with God's name...we don't do that in Islam I dont think. And certainly my husband does not either. And even I did not hear that when I was in Palestine either. So I don't know.

I did not know tht Juduism and Christianity actually punished by death though. When I was a kid as a Christian, I was just told I could go to hell:)

[Alhamdulillah 0]

It's not an "Arab" practice to name children "so and so, son of so and so".... It's in the bible in Hebrew and it's been done this way from the beginning of time (well I guess not Adam and Eve since they didn't have parents but I believe Adam is referred to as the son of God in the bible even).

The idea of changing your name when you marry has everything to do with which man the woman "belongs to" and it's as if ownership transfers from one man to another. In Islam, however, it has nothing to do with ownership and everything to do with lineage.

Of course, you are free to disagree as you like and this topic has been discussed to death on here over the years No one is ever going to agree on this board about anything that has to do with anything and I really don't know why we bother

He's not referred to as son of anyone (ben), definately not son of G-d But yes, people are ben or bat (insert father's name here) in the Bible.

That is the correct differentiation too for name changing. I have seen it pronounced haram or halal depending on who is speaking-- if it's said to be halal the usual logic I have seen is that because in places where a woman does change her name, no one is confused about her lineage-- we account for it.

Yes he is.

Luke 3:38

Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God

[nunyab 0]

It's not an "Arab" practice to name children "so and so, son of so and so".... It's in the bible in Hebrew and it's been done this way from the beginning of time (well I guess not Adam and Eve since they didn't have parents but I believe Adam is referred to as the son of God in the bible even).

The idea of changing your name when you marry has everything to do with which man the woman "belongs to" and it's as if ownership transfers from one man to another. In Islam, however, it has nothing to do with ownership and everything to do with lineage.

Of course, you are free to disagree as you like and this topic has been discussed to death on here over the years No one is ever going to agree on this board about anything that has to do with anything and I really don't know why we bother

He's not referred to as son of anyone (ben), definately not son of G-d But yes, people are ben or bat (insert father's name here) in the Bible.

That is the correct differentiation too for name changing. I have seen it pronounced haram or halal depending on who is speaking-- if it's said to be halal the usual logic I have seen is that because in places where a woman does change her name, no one is confused about her lineage-- we account for it.

Yes he is.

Luke 3:38

Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God

[sarahaziz 0]

Oh jeez... there's alot in the quran I can pull 1 sura out and make it sound like something else. IF you must post something to make a point you must put the whole supporting scripture or it will definitely be taken out of context. I'm not saying I'd enjoy to read long bible/quran scriptures on here but it does offend someone of that religion to post something that's not true. I really hope it doesn't turn into part 10 of christianity vs islam.

[♥JP♥ 5]

I just want to say for the record that I am NOT Muslim and I CAN post in this thread. There is some weird rumor floating around that this thread is for Muslims only even though the title of thread clearly says, Muslims or anyone else interested.....

[nunyab 0]

I just want to say for the record that I am NOT Muslim and I CAN post in this thread. There is some weird rumor floating around that this thread is for Muslims only even though the title of thread clearly says, Muslims or anyone else interested.....

Ooohhh JP I don't know where that rumor came from but it's just supposed to be a place we can chat.. so welcome pull up a chair.. would you like some coffee??? it's my answer to everything now these days

[Sassy1natl 0]

I haven't gotten that impression at all... any chai, by chance?