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I'm fascinated by how often any conversation about Islam or being Muslim turns into a discussion about hijab for women, especially among converts. Most Muslim women don't cover, but on message boards, you would think it's what Islam is all about for Muslimas. Strange.

MHO is that one of the reasons a lot of ppl convert is because they like the purity they find in Islam. One of the reasons we (converts) discuss hijab (in the form of hair covering) is because it is something that we see as a way to (more) purify ourselves and stop focusing so much on our outer appearances so much. BUT it is not "the norm" here to cover and we didn't grow up with that being normal so it is a big issue to a lot of new converts (especially in the USA). It is probably one of THE biggest issues just because of the comfort level that goes along with it (or the lack thereof) and the way we are treated if we DO decide to cover.

Hair covering is most commonly associated with Islam because hijab is most commonly worn by Muslimas. It is also worn by others, nuns, Jewish, old ladies with purple hair, etc. One can't blame ppl for associating hijab with muslimas coz, well... muslims associate it with muslims too. It IS a way to express ones faith but is also a way to help oneself self-purify (if that makes any sense).

When I learned the reasons behind hijab (non-religious reasons even) it really made sense to me and I think everyone should practice a form of hijab...even if it is to dress modestly or not wear stuff that brings so much attention to oneself.

Someoene mentioned that the girls run around un-hijabbed until they get married but then cover once married. yes, that is true. One of the reasons my husband told me was because the husband and "unmarriable" ppl are the only ones that are allowed to see them without hijab after they are married. It is out of respect that when the woman marries, that she wear hijab for her husband in order to save her beauty (or whatever) for him and the allowed others only... I dunno..that's what he told me anyway...

So..in conclusion...(hehe that sounds like I'm speaking in a board meeting...are u all in ur suits, ties, pantsuits? lol)...I don't find it odd for women of Islam (especially converts) to discuss wearing hijab more often than other women do because there are a lot of things that go along with it other than "do i cover or do i not". For me, it is a lot more deep an issue than that.

Thank you all for coming today, this meeting is adjourned :lol:

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"wonders what main topics brothers babble on about" :)

How to have four wives :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

LOL

or what things to do with 4 wives............and what days of the week they will do them on:)

ahaha lol i know one of my brothers used to always say before he got married that he would have two or three wifes ask him now and he will tell u if u can keep one wife happy ur a lucky man needless to say one wife is all he gets lol ahahaha

Well, I think in most cases or what I've heard anyways is that the man may spend a few weeks or so with one wife, then move to next then next then next. So unless he lives with all four at once (and if he's rich he may not)....he still only has to worry about one at a time:)

I don't know how a woman could want to be a second, third, or fourth wife. I have way too many needs to be hassling myself with that. And by needs, I'm not talking about money, a roof over my head, and clothing. I can get that myself !!:)

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"wonders what main topics brothers babble on about" :)

How to have four wives :rofl:

followed soon by how do avoid 4 mothers in law......

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"wonders what main topics brothers babble on about" :)

How to have four wives :rofl:

followed soon by how do avoid 4 mothers in law......

yeah I wonder how do they do that? lol

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ahaha lol i know one of my brothers used to always say before he got married that he would have two or three wifes ask him now and he will tell u if u can keep one wife happy ur a lucky man needless to say one wife is all he gets lol ahahaha

My son is 10 (almost 11) and he always says he's gonn have 4 wives with 2 or 3 kids from each wife when he grows up :lol: I told him he better strike it rich first :luv:

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ahaha lol i know one of my brothers used to always say before he got married that he would have two or three wifes ask him now and he will tell u if u can keep one wife happy ur a lucky man needless to say one wife is all he gets lol ahahaha

My son is 10 (almost 11) and he always says he's gonn have 4 wives with 2 or 3 kids from each wife when he grows up :lol: I told him he better strike it rich first :luv:

wow these kids start the urge young! thanks for the warning, lol

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ahaha lol i know one of my brothers used to always say before he got married that he would have two or three wifes ask him now and he will tell u if u can keep one wife happy ur a lucky man needless to say one wife is all he gets lol ahahaha

My son is 10 (almost 11) and he always says he's gonn have 4 wives with 2 or 3 kids from each wife when he grows up :lol: I told him he better strike it rich first :luv:

wow these kids start the urge young! thanks for the warning, lol

You know, the funny thing is, he's not even INTO girls yet :lol: He still thinkgs they're weird and boring LOL

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Wow..no bad replies yet..i'm shocked! wow!

My son decided that he was never going to get married. (he's 9) He said he will be staying all of his life with me coz he loves me and doesn't want me to be lonely. He said he will get a job as a race car driver so he can pay my bills for me. If he can't be a race car driver, he wants to be a vetrenarian :thumbs: so we can have horses that he can ride every day.

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To Hijab or NOt.... lol It's true a difficult questions and discussion. There is more to it than the external hijab... there is the internal one too. The appropriate behavior.... I have a laugh dare I say cackle that is so hard for me to control. I can put all the layers of clothes (which I do out of my respect for Allah, Islam, my husband and myself) but when something makes me laugh!!!! UUUghhh it' so embarrassing.

As far as husbands drinking tea? Yeah mine meets his friends everyday after work to talk. Reminds me of what men do in the states at bars but without the alcohol. If we need to find my father in-law or any of my husband's friends we just go to "their" cafe' and you know you will find them. In Casablanca there is a cafe' at almost every corner on mainstreets.

I asked my husband about multiple wives before we got married.....lmao he said "baby we must please all equally and honestly I work hard to please just one" I didn't think I was that difficult. love the 4 mother in law comment.... hehe

I do know a women in Egypt is wife 3 I asked her about jelousey problems and she said at first but you get used to it.... nope don't think that is something I can get used to.

OK.. how about Zakat... how do you ladies do that??? do you have somthing automatically or do you do it as you can?

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Wow..no bad replies yet..i'm shocked! wow!

My son decided that he was never going to get married. (he's 9) He said he will be staying all of his life with me coz he loves me and doesn't want me to be lonely. He said he will get a job as a race car driver so he can pay my bills for me. If he can't be a race car driver, he wants to be a vetrenarian :thumbs: so we can have horses that he can ride every day.

Have I ever told u all that I love my son!

No Amal, her son is wet behind the ears yet:) He will understand the pains of dealing with one woman when he has to deal with one:) lol I wonder what he will say one day when his mother tells him 20 years from now "Son, i remember when you wanted 4 wives" LOL

Amal-your son is too cute;) lol

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Wow..no bad replies yet..i'm shocked! wow!

My son decided that he was never going to get married. (he's 9) He said he will be staying all of his life with me coz he loves me and doesn't want me to be lonely. He said he will get a job as a race car driver so he can pay my bills for me. If he can't be a race car driver, he wants to be a vetrenarian :thumbs: so we can have horses that he can ride every day.

Have I ever told u all that I love my son!

No Amal, her son is wet behind the ears yet:) He will understand the pains of dealing with one woman when he has to deal with one:) lol I wonder what he will say one day when his mother tells him 20 years from now "Son, i remember when you wanted 4 wives" LOL

Amal-your son is too cute;) lol

LOL :rofl: so true

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To Hijab or NOt.... lol It's true a difficult questions and discussion. There is more to it than the external hijab... there is the internal one too. The appropriate behavior.... I have a laugh dare I say cackle that is so hard for me to control. I can put all the layers of clothes (which I do out of my respect for Allah, Islam, my husband and myself) but when something makes me laugh!!!! UUUghhh it' so embarrassing.

As far as husbands drinking tea? Yeah mine meets his friends everyday after work to talk. Reminds me of what men do in the states at bars but without the alcohol. If we need to find my father in-law or any of my husband's friends we just go to "their" cafe' and you know you will find them. In Casablanca there is a cafe' at almost every corner on mainstreets.

I asked my husband about multiple wives before we got married.....lmao he said "baby we must please all equally and honestly I work hard to please just one" I didn't think I was that difficult. love the 4 mother in law comment.... hehe

I do know a women in Egypt is wife 3 I asked her about jelousey problems and she said at first but you get used to it.... nope don't think that is something I can get used to.

OK.. how about Zakat... how do you ladies do that??? do you have somthing automatically or do you do it as you can?

im a selfish person i dont share so i will be the only wife........Zakat i do as i can

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zakat....thats a nice topic.

Personally, I do it as I can. I try to find an organization to donate to...or if a natural disaster strikes donate to the red cross or something.

Speaking of zakat/charity, how do you guys deal with bums asking for money? Do you give them money or food or ignore them?

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Oct. 1, 2007 On my way to Palestine

Oct. 5, 2007 I130 approved, transferrerd to NVC YAY!!!!

Oct. 16, 2007 Return to US, ranks one of the saddest day of my life:(

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zakat....thats a nice topic.

Personally, I do it as I can. I try to find an organization to donate to...or if a natural disaster strikes donate to the red cross or something.

Speaking of zakat/charity, how do you guys deal with bums asking for money? Do you give them money or food or ignore them?

I always think a good place to start is by not calling them bums.

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there are so many ppl here begging for food/jobs/money/etc that one can't give to all (unless they are rich). If I knew for certain that they would not use the money to go buy cigarettes and/or alcohol, I'd give them what I could. If I knew for sure that they weren't actually a serial killer trying to lure their next victim, I'd definitely bring them to my home and feed them. I have often shared an apple or something from my lunch bag if I see someone with a "hungry" cardboard sign and I'm stopped at a traffic signal. (wouldn't wanna throw the apple out the window at them whilst driving 60mphhhh KLUNK right in the forehead..aaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha that would be so horrible...i can see the feet flying up in the air right now... not that that is funny..but just the mental picture..tee hee)

I try to shop at places that I know give back ..like the good will store or salvation army shops. sometimes u find perfectly good stuff at fractions of the retail prices... AND it helps the needy... kill 2 birds with 1 stone that way

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