Muslims

[Kenza 1]

Im sure she'll come at some point and speak up about that, but from what I think from her writing, that not that she has a problem with it if its done the right way but the problem lies in the fact that there are women trying to say its required by the women to do it, enforced in some countries and men to make them do it and then making it seem like its by God.

haha I know she will....I say lets move on to another topic shall we? before things turn nasty

[Zee Bee 61]

I have to say that I disagree with the "If the woman does not wear hijab she is less likely to pray 5 times a day/be a practicing Muslim".

I have friends on both sides of that spectrum that would fit that judgement and others that do not. To imply that wearing the hijab makes a woman a better Muslim is just wrong wrong wrong. How can someone make that conclusion based on how a woman looks? Does the hijab remind you that it is time for prayer?

There are Muslim women on this board that cover their hair and those that do not. IMHO, none is better than the other. At the end of it all, hijab or no hijab, everyone is going to be judged by their actions and how they lived their lives.

There is nothing worse than judging someone by how they look.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

I have to say that I disagree with the "If the woman does not wear hijab she is less likely to pray 5 times a day/be a practicing Muslim".

I have friends on both sides of that spectrum that would fit that judgement and others that do not. To imply that wearing the hijab makes a woman a better Muslim is just wrong wrong wrong. How can someone make that conclusion based on how a woman looks? Does the hijab remind you that it is time for prayer?

There are Muslim women on this board that cover their hair and those that do not. IMHO, none is better than the other. At the end of it all, hijab or no hijab, everyone is going to be judged by their actions and how they lived their lives.

There is nothing worse than judging someone by how they look.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

5 star well said!

[Kenza 1]

I have to say that I disagree with the "If the woman does not wear hijab she is less likely to pray 5 times a day/be a practicing Muslim".

I have friends on both sides of that spectrum that would fit that judgement and others that do not. To imply that wearing the hijab makes a woman a better Muslim is just wrong wrong wrong. How can someone make that conclusion based on how a woman looks? Does the hijab remind you that it is time for prayer?

There are Muslim women on this board that cover their hair and those that do not. IMHO, none is better than the other. At the end of it all, hijab or no hijab, everyone is going to be judged by their actions and how they lived their lives.

There is nothing worse than judging someone by how they look.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

you go sista!

[sara..... 371]

I have to say that I disagree with the "If the woman does not wear hijab she is less likely to pray 5 times a day/be a practicing Muslim".

I have friends on both sides of that spectrum that would fit that judgement and others that do not. To imply that wearing the hijab makes a woman a better Muslim is just wrong wrong wrong. How can someone make that conclusion based on how a woman looks? Does the hijab remind you that it is time for prayer?

There are Muslim women on this board that cover their hair and those that do not. IMHO, none is better than the other. At the end of it all, hijab or no hijab, everyone is going to be judged by their actions and how they lived their lives.

There is nothing worse than judging someone by how they look.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

i only based what i said about women that do not wear hijab from the women that come to our classes but at no time have i ever said that wearing hijab makes someone a better muslim than a non hijab wearing muslim so i hope it was not my post that offended u

it is not our right to say ANYONE is a better muslim than another one because even some women that wear hijab and pray five times daily could have wrong thoughts or doing wrong deeds

also while prayers are important so is hijab(just my opinion) there are other things equally important such as how we treat each other, how we talk about each other, and how we live our life.......again just my opinion and not said to start a war or to hurt or mock anyone

sara

[Leyla 0]

I'm sure everyone can find the evidence for hijab/khimar if they so chose, so I won't go into that here.

I do need to address this however:

As a "Non-hijabi" I show them that Islam is not about clothing or being forced to do something. It is above all worshiping and believing in the ONE GOD. It is also about freedom and choice and Islam is not just for Arabs. It's for everyone and anyone.

Islam is literally submission to God. We submit our nafs to Him. And that does mean we are obligated to do certain things. Once we freely choose to submit to Allah (swt) and make shahada, things become incumant upon us. We don't have freedom or choice when it comes to whether or not to make salat. We don't have freedom or choice when it comes to paying zakat. We don't have freedom or choice when it comes to making hajj. We don't have freedom or choice when it comes to following and loving the messenger of Allah (swt). We don't have freedom or choice as to whether or not we follow specific injunctions given in the Qur'an. And if something is clear in the hadith, we don't have a choice as to whether or not we follow that (at least if we're within the confines of alh al sunnah wa jamaah).

And yes, islam is for everyone, but just because someone choses to wear khimar does not mean they're trying to become an arab.

Dr. Umar Faruq Abdullah wrote an interesting paper on Islam and the Cultural Imperative, which discusses the role and incorporation of different cultures as islam expanded.

Actually, Islam isn't for everyone. It isn't a universal truth, nor is it an actual truth. It is only true, if you believe it - like any faith. You are so brainwashed that you can't even recognise this opinion when you make such expansive statements. A huge percentage of people all over the world don't believe in any religion. These very same people usually respect your right to believe what you like.... but smug zealots like you don't afford the same courtesy to others - as your misguided idea of God doesn't permit that, does it?

#######? Where do you come off being so mean?? DO not come barking up my tree.

[Leyla 0]

Wow... I need to breathe... lol.

I got a little heated about AG's remarks.

Hijab is an interesting topic but a dangerous one as well.

I want to say a few things and then Hopefully be done with the hijab subject:

I am a woman that converted, then met my husband so please don't push me into the "converted to get a man" category.

After all my experiences in life (and some discussions on here) I have personally decided that my faith is not Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca etc. My faith is: GOD. My faith has and always will be God.

The talk on this forum and from those around me personally has lead me away from organized religion. It's not for me. Religion moves me farther and farther away from God. Instead of thinking about God, I think about tiny things that make NO DIFFERENCE. When I became Muslim, I was so happy. I thought: "FINALLY! A religion and a people that can help me in my life and in my relationship with God". But the people and the religion pushed me away. Maybe I wasn't around the right people. Maybe I jumped in too quick. Maybe it wasn't the right time, but now the only thing in my heart and on my mind is God. Just God. I believe God loves me. I believe God is powerful. However, I don't believe God is a petty God. I don't believe he is going to be so merciless to let me burn in hell for things like not praying this way or that way, or wear this not that, or going to Church on Sunday instead of Mosque on Friday or Synagogue. I hate to be this person but... do you think God really cares? Is God not the loving merciful God we all learned about in Sunday school, or at the mosque?

In essence, isn't Islam the belief in the ONE GOD?

What happened to Islam (or any religion for that matter)? God brought down the Qur'an. The FINAL WORD. But we still rely scholars and Hadiths and interpretations (which vary according to which school of thought you belong to). You don't think that some of these people add their own two sense? Isn't that why the Qur'an was written? So that there were no more questions? Have people lost sight of the Qur'an? Or more importantly... have people lost sight of God?

Sometimes I think we worry too much about the RELIGION and not enough on WHY the religion exists in the first place.

[aisha kandisha 0]

Wow... I need to breathe... lol.

I got a little heated about AG's remarks.

Hijab is an interesting topic but a dangerous one as well.

I want to say a few things and then Hopefully be done with the hijab subject:

I am a woman that converted, then met my husband so please don't push me into the "converted to get a man" category.

After all my experiences in life (and some discussions on here) I have personally decided that my faith is not Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca etc. My faith is: GOD. My faith has and always will be God.

The talk on this forum and from those around me personally has lead me away from organized religion. It's not for me. Religion moves me farther and farther away from God. Instead of thinking about God, I think about tiny things that make NO DIFFERENCE. When I became Muslim, I was so happy. I thought: "FINALLY! A religion and a people that can help me in my life and in my relationship with God". But the people and the religion pushed me away. Maybe I wasn't around the right people. Maybe I jumped in too quick. Maybe it wasn't the right time, but now the only thing in my heart and on my mind is God. Just God. I believe God loves me. I believe God is powerful. However, I don't believe God is a petty God. I don't believe he is going to be so merciless to let me burn in hell for things like not praying this way or that way, or wear this not that, or going to Church on Sunday instead of Mosque on Friday or Synagogue. I hate to be this person but... do you think God really cares? Is God not the loving merciful God we all learned about in Sunday school, or at the mosque?

In essence, isn't Islam the belief in the ONE GOD?

What happened to Islam (or any religion for that matter)? God brought down the Qur'an. The FINAL WORD. But we still rely scholars and Hadiths and interpretations (which vary according to which school of thought you belong to). You don't think that some of these people add their own two sense? Isn't that why the Qur'an was written? So that there were no more questions? Have people lost sight of the Qur'an? Or more importantly... have people lost sight of God?

Sometimes I think we worry too much about the RELIGION and not enough on WHY the religion exists in the first place.

I think a better question is "do we really care?", do we really care to worship the Merciful? It is solely by His mercy that we have these "petty" means by which to strive to receive even more mercy in paradise than the abundant mercy we already have received on earth. If these means are petty, we should be grateful that more difficult things were not asked of us.

[HLM 1]

Thank you Tasha for answering my question but you were the only one who did

Anyways I wanted to add that it seems like everyone has stated their opinion and laid their sources or their understanding on the issue...but I feel some are still repeating themselves because they think someone else still didn't get the point; I understand but It's like we're going in circles so let's move on plz.

Also to Ahmed's girl- you have every right to your opinion and you have all my respect but there is no need to conclude something about someone else's life you don't know or have never met before. All the opinions here are from personal experience or knowledge about the religion -like giving proof or links to sources- not judging someone's life or their actions. Thank you sister for participating (:

[Muh and me 18]

Thank you Tasha for answering my question but you were the only one who did

Anyways I wanted to add that it seems like everyone has stated their opinion and laid their sources or their understanding on the issue...but I feel some are still repeating themselves because they think someone else still didn't get the point; I understand but It's like we're going in circles so let's move on plz.

Also to Ahmed's girl- you have every right to your opinion and you have all my respect but there is no need to conclude something about someone else's life you don't know or have never met before. All the opinions here are from personal experience or knowledge about the religion -like giving proof or links to sources- not judging someone's life or their actions. Thank you sister for participating (:

HLM, i stated once before i wear hijab when i pray and go to the masjid. I agree with you tho, its time to move on from this subject. I hate to see so much heated debate on this issue. its getting no where fast and is starting to get vicious.

[Kenza 1]

Thank you Tasha for answering my question but you were the only one who did

Anyways I wanted to add that it seems like everyone has stated their opinion and laid their sources or their understanding on the issue...but I feel some are still repeating themselves because they think someone else still didn't get the point; I understand but It's like we're going in circles so let's move on plz.

Also to Ahmed's girl- you have every right to your opinion and you have all my respect but there is no need to conclude something about someone else's life you don't know or have never met before. All the opinions here are from personal experience or knowledge about the religion -like giving proof or links to sources- not judging someone's life or their actions. Thank you sister for participating (:

HLM, i stated once before i wear hijab when i pray and go to the masjid. I agree with you tho, its time to move on from this subject. I hate to see so much heated debate on this issue. its getting no where fast and is starting to get vicious.

I already said that lol and it kept on going...what's another Muslim subject?

[Aymsgirl 0]

Thank you Tasha for answering my question but you were the only one who did

Anyways I wanted to add that it seems like everyone has stated their opinion and laid their sources or their understanding on the issue...but I feel some are still repeating themselves because they think someone else still didn't get the point; I understand but It's like we're going in circles so let's move on plz.

Also to Ahmed's girl- you have every right to your opinion and you have all my respect but there is no need to conclude something about someone else's life you don't know or have never met before. All the opinions here are from personal experience or knowledge about the religion -like giving proof or links to sources- not judging someone's life or their actions. Thank you sister for participating (:

HLM, i stated once before i wear hijab when i pray and go to the masjid. I agree with you tho, its time to move on from this subject. I hate to see so much heated debate on this issue. its getting no where fast and is starting to get vicious.

I already said that lol and it kept on going...what's another Muslim subject?

Very well said ladies and you are very welcome HLM. Like Kenza said let's find some other Islamic topics to discuss. How about something to do with our spouses? I am always looking for ways for my marriage to grow stronger and my faith to grow. Does anybody have any good Islamic sites to read for inspiration regarding a long lasting marriage?

[Leyla 0]

All my topics lite fires so maybe I shouldn't suggest the next one lol

[Kenza 1]

Well I don't know if this has to do with the topic of Islam but what special things do you do or your SO does that makes you happy...my question is confusing...but one of mine-my husband surprised me at the airport. He was studying in France at the time and we were going to meet in Morocco for the summer. I was suppossed to arrive there the day before him and I was to go to the airport the next day and pick him up...well he surprised me at the airport when I got there, he changed his ticket right when I left so there was no way I saw his email or anything...well anyways BIG surprise! another one...when my husband is home and I take a shower-he always brings a towel for me lol...he likes to imitate me sometimes "Brahim!!!!!!! Jiibni foutha!!"

[merijan 0]

The answer is so simple, if you choose not to wear hijab it is between you and Allah. You cant pick and choose and design Islam for your own satisfaction or western idealogy. I just got back from a nice day listening to Shiek Yusuf Estes here in Fresno. And he explained it so clearly , that is why I believe in it , I wear hijab. However I know many women who wear hijab and they are lacking other aspects of Islam in thier ways, I know many women who dont wear hijab but have a beautiful heart for Islam.

The dangerous thing is to be carefull in telling people what to do and not do. Because if you tell others you dont have to wear hijab and it turns out your wrong, your going to be held accountable for them. So its best to say its between you and Allah.