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Leading Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama pooh-poohed the idea that Iran or any of a few other "tiny" nations around the world offer a serious potential threat to the United States or the free world.

"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela? These countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose any serious threat to us," he told a crowd at a campaign stop over the weekend, prompting the probable Republican opponent for the White House to respond that Iran already is attacking the U.S.

"Obviously, Iran isn't a superpower, doesn't possess the military power the Soviet Union had. But that does not mean, by any stretch of the imagination that the threat posed by Iran is insignificant," Sen. John McCain said today. "On the contrary, right now Iran provides some of the deadliest explosive devices used in Iraq to kill our soldiers.

"They are the chief sponsor of Shia extremists in Iraq, and terrorist organizations in the Middle East. … And their president, who has called Israel a stinking corpse, has repeatedly made clear his government's commitment to Israel's destruction. Most worrying, Iran is intent on acquiring nuclear weapons," McCain said.

Participants in a forum on YouTube, where video of Obama's statements were posted, questioned his sanity.

"I take back everything I ever said about Obama and correct myself," wrote one contributor. "He's not just a moron. He's a full scale idiot who knowns (sic) absolutely nothing about history or the world. Don't worry about Iran? Who stole his brain? This guy as POTUS … good night free world."

Obama was advocating for his stated position of being willing to hold discussions with leaders of rogue nations, such as Iran.

His comments are available on YouTube:

He said strong leaders and strong nations are willing to hold discussions with their enemies. He said that's what President John F. Kennedy did with Nikita Khruschchev, what President Ronald Reagan did with Mikhail Gorbachev and what Richard Nixon did with Mao Zedong.

Obama said at various points, the Soviet Union, headed by Khruschchev and Gorbachev, was threatening to wipe the U.S. off the planet.

But he said the "engagement" of the national leaders through dialogue "led to a series of measures that helped prevent nuclear war." He said that such efforts also eventually "brought down the Berlin wall."

"That has to be the kind of approach we take," he said.

"If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. We should use that position of strength … to be bold enough to go ahead and listen," Obama stated.

Ed Morrissey, a blogger at HotAir.com, however, asserted Obama had his facts wrong.

"Wow. Where to begin with this silliness?" he wrote. "Let's start with the Soviet Union. We talked with the Soviet Union because they also had nuclear weapons. Obama seems to forget that the entire point of our Iran policy is to prevent being put in the position of having to cut deals with a terrorist-supporting, radical Islamist non-rational state. When the enemy already has the capability of destroying you several times over, negotiations are needed to keep one side from initiating a war. Only an idiot would think that the negotiations intended on disarming the Soviets, or they us. The same dynamic applies to our engagement with Mao Zedong and Red China; Mao was smart enough to hold himself out as a potential partner in a power balance against the Soviets."

Morrissey continued by explaining that the Soviet Union collapsed economically and the Berlin Wall fell because the regime propping it up disappeared.

"Why did the Soviet Union collapse? Because Ronald Reagan won an economic war with Moscow, forcing it to spend more and more and falling further and further behind. The Strategic Defense Initiative provided the coup de grace to the Soviets, who knew they could never match us in missile defense, and tried negotiating an end to the economic war instead, with disastrous results," he wrote.

Morrissey raised concerns about the "common interests" Obama describes between the U.S. and Iran's governing powers.

"What interests would those be? The destruction of Israel, the denial of the Holocaust, the financial and military support of Hamas and Hezbollah, or the killing of American soldiers in Iraq?" he asked.

"The Soviets may have been evil, but they were rational, and we could count on their desire to survive to rely on the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction. The Iranians believe that a worldwide conflagration will have Allah deliver the world to Islam, so a nuclear exchange may fall within their policy, and that's assuming we could establishing their culpability for a sneak attack to the extent where a President Obama would order a nuclear reprisal.

"This speech reveals Obama to have no grasp of history, no grasp of strategic implications of a nuclear Iran, and no clue how to secure the nation and handle foreign policy," he said.

On the YouTube site, a forum contributor said, "Those countries are tiny, so they pose not (sic) threat? That is the basis for his foreign policy? Al-Qaida is pretty tiny compared to the old Soviet Union as well, but that didn't seem to stop them."

Another wrote, "This guy has no clue."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=64716

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



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Thunderbolt and lightning-very very frightening me.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Thunderbolt and lightning-very very frightening me.

Are T-storms not common to your area? Pretty! :yes:

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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Um , yes. Queen, Obama, Storms....they all relate to each other. Somehow.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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This guys ideas of the world really scare me.

Does this quote scare you as equally?

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20020313-8.html

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This guys ideas of the world really scare me.

Does this quote scare you as equally?

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20020313-8.html

No, OBL is a criminal that we need to catch and punish. But as a leader capable of mounting another 9/11, that is over. Sending tapes out on horseback is all he can do now.

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Frankly, not as much.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

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The Soviet Union had the capability to destroy the US - and the world - many times over. I don't see Iran having any such capability. Not more so than Iraq did. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of proper perspective. Wish Bush would have had some. ;)

And the only ones in that equation "with" actual WMDs hasn't gotten manhandled by pappa Bushco...

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Well he isn't really wrong is he?

Even combined that "Axis of Evil" cannot challenge the US on any level whatsoever. Not economically and not militarily. In the scheme of things the thread posed by Iran, Cuba or Venezuela isn't really comparable to a competing Superpower like the old Soviet Union, or indeed - China.

The Soviet Union had the capability to destroy the US - and the world - many times over. I don't see Iran having any such capability. Not more so than Iraq did. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of proper perspective. Wish Bush would have had some. ;)

Exactly. Yet it seems to be the modus operandi that every new threat must be inflated out of all proportion and painted as the next Soviet Union, or the next Nazi Germany.

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