Let's kill this myth right here, right now...

[Saffyre 0]

Ok, I hope to enter through Orlando - so if I can get a number to call them later, i'll see what they say about issuing the stamp and then i'll let you all know.

[NavarreMan 10]

Anyone know of any luck with the EAD stamp at Chicago O'Hare?

If what you are saying is true Navarreman, that JFK is the only POE that does this...one has to wonder if the USCIS is skewed towards a certain group of immigrants. I would say most entering JFK would be from Europe...as opposed to Houston/Atlanta/LAX you are likely looking at the majority coming from non-European countries. I do hope it isn't a case of discrimination, but you never know...

At no time have I said anything of the sort. Quite the opposite is true. I have serious doubts that JFK is the only POE that can grant temp work permits. I have said several times that Tanya got hers at ATL. Most everyone else is saying that they have some reason to believe that JFK is the only one. This is not the case!!!

Please re-read very carefully what I posted and you will see that you misunderstood what was posted. I do not believe for one moment that USCIS would be stupid enough to blatently discriminate against anybody. They are equally slow and un-helpful toward all. What was posted in bold letters is a "cut-n-paste" from the VJ K1 Flowchart stating, somewhat poorly, the process whereby one can get the EAD stamp and it gives the impression that this done routinely at JFK if you ask for it. It stops just short of saying that JFK is the only POE that will provide the stamp. IMO this cannot be the case as Tanya received her stamp at ATL and others have received theirs at POE's that were not JFK.

A phone call to the Immigration folks at O'hare should get you the answer you are seeking.

Ok, I hope to enter through Orlando - so if I can get a number to call them later, i'll see what they say about issuing the stamp and then i'll let you all know.

That's the ticket!!!

Thanks

[ginger1981 0]

Anyone know of any luck with the EAD stamp at Chicago O'Hare?

If what you are saying is true Navarreman, that JFK is the only POE that does this...one has to wonder if the USCIS is skewed towards a certain group of immigrants. I would say most entering JFK would be from Europe...as opposed to Houston/Atlanta/LAX you are likely looking at the majority coming from non-European countries. I do hope it isn't a case of discrimination, but you never know...

At no time have I said anything of the sort. Quite the opposite is true. I have serious doubts that JFK is the only POE that can grant temp work permits. I have said several times that Tanya got hers at ATL. Most everyone else is saying that they have some reason to believe that JFK is the only one. This is not the case!!!

Please re-read very carefully what I posted and you will see that you misunderstood what was posted. I do not believe for one moment that USCIS would be stupid enough to blatently discriminate against anybody. They are equally slow and un-helpful toward all. What was posted in bold letters is a "cut-n-paste" from the VJ K1 Flowchart stating, somewhat poorly, the process whereby one can get the EAD stamp and it gives the impression that this done routinely at JFK if you ask for it. It stops just short of saying that JFK is the only POE that will provide the stamp. IMO this cannot be the case as Tanya received her stamp at ATL and others have received theirs at POE's that were not JFK.

A phone call to the Immigration folks at O'hare should get you the answer you are seeking.

Ok, I hope to enter through Orlando - so if I can get a number to call them later, i'll see what they say about issuing the stamp and then i'll let you all know.

That's the ticket!!!

Thanks

You didn't have to be such an a-hole answering...it was more of a hypothetical question. I realize that it is unlikely that JFK is the only place, but it seems that it doesn't happen as often at other airports...why would that be? I should have made myself more clear granted, but I didn't think a post that was written to try to make me feel like a complete idiot was necessary.

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

when will the OP realise that saying that JFK routinely gives temp EAD stamps, does not exclude other POE giving the stamp. We are not all idiots and can understand this very complicated situation ourselves.

So for you guys who weren't listening at the back, some POE's do issue the stamp, but may not, and it may be down to weather the IO got out of bed on the right side that morning. K???

[NavarreMan 10]

Anyone know of any luck with the EAD stamp at Chicago O'Hare?

If what you are saying is true Navarreman, that JFK is the only POE that does this...one has to wonder if the USCIS is skewed towards a certain group of immigrants. I would say most entering JFK would be from Europe...as opposed to Houston/Atlanta/LAX you are likely looking at the majority coming from non-European countries. I do hope it isn't a case of discrimination, but you never know...

At no time have I said anything of the sort. Quite the opposite is true. I have serious doubts that JFK is the only POE that can grant temp work permits. I have said several times that Tanya got hers at ATL. Most everyone else is saying that they have some reason to believe that JFK is the only one. This is not the case!!!

Please re-read very carefully what I posted and you will see that you misunderstood what was posted. I do not believe for one moment that USCIS would be stupid enough to blatently discriminate against anybody. They are equally slow and un-helpful toward all. What was posted in bold letters is a "cut-n-paste" from the VJ K1 Flowchart stating, somewhat poorly, the process whereby one can get the EAD stamp and it gives the impression that this done routinely at JFK if you ask for it. It stops just short of saying that JFK is the only POE that will provide the stamp. IMO this cannot be the case as Tanya received her stamp at ATL and others have received theirs at POE's that were not JFK.

A phone call to the Immigration folks at O'hare should get you the answer you are seeking.

Ok, I hope to enter through Orlando - so if I can get a number to call them later, i'll see what they say about issuing the stamp and then i'll let you all know.

That's the ticket!!!

Thanks

You didn't have to be such an a-hole answering...it was more of a hypothetical question. I realize that it is unlikely that JFK is the only place, but it seems that it doesn't happen as often at other airports...why would that be? I should have made myself more clear granted, but I didn't think a post that was written to try to make me feel like a complete idiot was necessary.

You are 100% correct. I not did not have to be an a-hole and I do not for 1 second believe that I responded as one. You started by putting words in my mouth. I responded accordingly.

"If what you are saying is true Navarreman, that JFK is the only POE that does this..."

With that being said I have just gotten off the phone with USCIS (another miserable and almost useless call) and can give the following information about this subject.

It would appear that the reason Tanya was granted an EAD at ATL is because she checked block 33a and 33b on her DS230. Now according to the Department of State who governs this form, these blocks do not apply to a K1 applicant but I can find no official rules or instructions that say this. When Tanya arrived in ATL they had her information ready to go and she was granted an EAD. According to the robot I just spoke with at USCIS, ANY POE CAN GRANT AN EAD AT ENTRY AT THEIR DISCRETION. I was not told what the parameters where in the decision making process at the POE but only that it was their discretion on whether or not to issue the EAD. I can add that Tanya's 17 year old son was not given an EAD and I was told that is because he is a K2 and not a K1. As a K2 and no SSN, if he is caught working he will be deported and his legal visa cancelled.

There is obviously more to this than what was said during this call. The USCIS agent repeated continuously that she was limited on what information she had and I could access the same info on their website. She also kept telling me that I could easily schedule an InfoPass appointment to get the question answered. I do not know about the rest of you but that is a 600 mile round trip for me and InfoPass appointments will be kept to a minimum.

This is all the info I can give on this subject at this time. I encourage any of you who are about to enter through a POE to pay close attention to what they say to you about EAD when one is requested and report your findings back here. Address them to the webmasters so that the information can be accurately reflected in the VJ guides.

[NavarreMan 10]

The VJ guides also include the following: EAD @ JFK One reason that they may not readily issue EAD's at POE is that EAD's issued this way are freebie's. If you have to file an I765 then I think the fee is $340.00. Just a hunch that in the ever decreasing world of funding the USCIS may be looking at every source of extra cash as a bonus and therefore may cut down on the freebie's.

[NavarreMan 10]

Alrighty folks...

I have gotten to the bottom of some of this mayhem. I would like to give credit to those who have suffered through this process long before me and have provided their expertise and wisdom and to VJ for having such a good repository for all of this knowledge and information.

Go to:Step-by-step Guide to getting a SSN. Read everything!

Then go to:Employment Authorization for Non-Immigrants. There you will find that a K1 does not require specific autorization by DHS to work in the USA. A K2 does. Therefore a K1 does not require the issuance of an EAD at the POE to be able to work. I have assumed all along that this was the case and that Tanya was issued a version of the EAD at ATL. This is not the case. She received her SSN because she is a K1. There is no requirement for a I-766 or I688B (EAD's) for her to receive a SSN. Her son on the other hand is a K2 and will need to file an I-765 to receive his EAD so he can apply for the SSN. However, this becomes academic once we are married and file the I-485 for AOS. The I-765 is incorporated into this process and the fees, from what I can gather, are included in the cost of the AOS application.

Because the K1 does not require specific authorization from DHS for employment authorization, blocks 33a & 33b on the DS 230 would not be applicable for the K1 applicant. I still do not understand why this would not apply to the K2 applicant but that is not what this is all about.

If anyone out there knows any of this to be incorrect please say so. This is my take on this very complicated issue. I may well be wrong and I will happily admit so if it be the case. When in doubt I recommend a lawyer just to be safe.

[Jeraly 4]

will people stop saying the other POE's that give temp EAD's. That is NOT what this thread is about, mm k?

It's about JFK is not the only one, mmm k?

Awww hun - you crack me up

[teachmehistory 0]

There you will find that a K1 does not require specific autorization by DHS to work in the USA. A K2 does. Therefore a K1 does not require the issuance of an EAD at the POE to be able to work.

If anyone out there knows any of this to be incorrect please say so. This is my take on this very complicated issue. I may well be wrong and I will happily admit so if it be the case. When in doubt I recommend a lawyer just to be safe.

Just to add anecdotal evidence to this issue, my husband was denied EAD at POE (seattle) and told he had to apply to USCIS - even though the right to work is clearly given in the approval of the K1 visa. We then filed for his SSN right away before we filed AOS. when we received the SSN card it stated right on it in big red letters under the number NOT AUTHORIZED TO WORK WITHOUT DHS APPROVAL. since you have to give your SSN to work legally we obviously filed AOS/EAD before he applied for jobs. I have found this whole thing to be VERY frustrating as the K1 visa is supposed to include the right to work right away but very few of us are granted it until we file the $1100.00 AOS.....such BS

anyway - just our experience. all is well 4 months down the line with EAD and a job in hand, just frustrating and expensive to get here!

[NavarreMan 10]

Thanks for the info. Seeing as how Tanya is working I guess I should look into whether she has DHS authorization by virtue of the stamp received on the I-94 at ATL.

I did find an answer to the question as to why they stopped issuing EAD's at POE's: No Mo EAD @ POE

[JoeCanuk 3]

when will the OP realise that saying that JFK routinely gives temp EAD stamps, does not exclude other POE giving the stamp. We are not all idiots and can understand this very complicated situation ourselves.

So for you guys who weren't listening at the back, some POE's do issue the stamp, but may not, and it may be down to weather the IO got out of bed on the right side that morning. K???

If that were the case I'd have never made this thread. However, I have repeatedly seen people say that JFK is the ONLY POE that issues the stamp. And I've repeatedly challenged that, only to see it stated once again.

[JoeCanuk 3]

JFK is NOT the only POE that issues the temporary 90 day work permit when one enters on a K1, etc.

which other ones do, could be useful.

Detroit.

However, my post wasn't about what other POE's do. It was simply saying that JFK is NOT the only POE that does. There's a difference.

Firstly I find this a rather rude response, and secondly, there is nothing wrong with asking for further information (which you imply you have, but appear reluctant to share) as your short reply suggests.

I would also be intrigued as to know which other POEs give the EAD stamp. It would be nice if you could impart some of your wisdom on us mere mortals. I don't do groveling though, sorry.

Don't preach at me about my response and proceed to be rude yourself. Did I say there was anything wrong with asking for further information? I crossed at Detroit. And I explicitly stated that fact. There. Am I reluctant? I didn't answer because it didn't MATTER where I crossed!

I'd impart some more wisdom on you but wisdom has taught me not to bother when people post in a manner that you did. Last but not least, there was nothing rude about my post. If I "were" being rude it would have been a lot more clear that I was. And I'd tell you I was.

Edited May 23, 2008 by JoeCanuk

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

No, we are telling you that you were rude. And we are telling you that you have mis read people's posts repeatedly.

The statments that you see constantly is that JFK is the only POE that ROUTINELY gives the stamp.

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

I hear what you have been saying in the two current POE threads, I really do. But this thread alone proves the fact that JFK might as well be the only POE giving out temp EADs, because although there are other ones that have given out temp EADs, that doesn't mean they will with the consistency of JFK. Hence the stereotype that it's only JFK, and methinks you are fighting a losing battle.

[Saffyre 0]

Yowza!! This thread got heated while I was gone!

I tried calling to find out whether they give the stamp at Orlando, but no one seemed to know what on earth I was talking about - so, in fairness I will probably take the risk and go through JFK which seems the best chance of getting the stamp!