Student sentenced to hanging after reading about women's right

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Suffering is universal.

Wise words Nagishkaw.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

interesting first name he has...........

In Muslim-majority countries (such as Afghanistan, Pakistan and Maldives), that name is about as interesting as "Fred" in US or UK.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

interesting first name he has...........

In Muslim-majority countries (such as Afghanistan, Pakistan and Maldives), that name is about as interesting as "Fred" in US or UK.

I have to say I've never known anyone in my entire life (except for one neighbour in the 80's) to go by the name Fred. Plenty of Jeff's (or Geoff's) but no Fred's.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

interesting first name he has...........

In Muslim-majority countries (such as Afghanistan, Pakistan and Maldives), that name is about as interesting as "Fred" in US or UK.

I have to say I've never known anyone in my entire life (except for one neighbour in the 80's) to go by the name Fred. Plenty of Jeff's (or Geoff's) but no Fred's.

Whatever

[Lansbury 19]

The problem isn't the death penalty as such, it is to which offenses it is applied. Whatever your view of the DP may be, in order to be sentenced with it here, you have to have killed someone.

Really what about the 129 people who have been sentenced to death and been on death row, who have subsequently been proved innocent by DNA evidence. They didn't kill anybody.

[Scott & Lai 12]

The problem isn't the death penalty as such, it is to which offenses it is applied. Whatever your view of the DP may be, in order to be sentenced with it here, you have to have killed someone.

Really what about the 129 people who have been sentenced to death and been on death row, who have subsequently been proved innocent by DNA evidence. They didn't kill anybody.

That is an entirely separate question from what I'm talking about. Yes, there is the argument that the DP should be eliminated because of the risk of executing an innocent person, and I do have some respect for that position. Of course we don't want those who are falsely accused of murder to be executed, that is hardly justice; but it also isn't justice for them to be in prison for life, or to receive any other punishments, because they did not in fact murder anyone. But the practical question of whether the risk of executing an innocent person is too great to have the DP is different from the question of whether the DP as such is a just penalty for someone who did in fact commit murder. Whether or not you believe the DP is just for an actual murderer, at least you can see why we have it, and why people argue for it for murder. Murdering someone is such a heinous crime that the punishment must be equally severe.

Asking questions about women's rights under Islam and distributing reports on the subject is hardly an "offense" that comes anywhere near the severity of murder, and absolutely should not be considered a capital crime. It shouldn't be a crime at all. If this student is executed, that will be murder, a gross injustice, and an unequivocal act of evil.

[Lansbury 19]

but it also isn't justice for them to be in prison for life, or to receive any other punishments, because they did not in fact murder anyone.

You might not consider it justice, but it allows for mistakes to be corrected, executing someone doesn't and certainly isn't justice. Therefore pointing out the 129 known mistakes since DNA testing is valid.

Asking questions about women's rights under Islam and distributing reports on the subject is hardly an "offense" that comes anywhere near the severity of murder, and absolutely should not be considered a capital crime. It shouldn't be a crime at all. If this student is executed, that will be murder, a gross injustice, and an unequivocal act of evil.

So if you don't agree with a countries laws then someone who is executed under those laws is murdered. That standard should then apply if people disagree with the death penalty, so they could say that State commits the same crime as the individual and each is equally wrong.

Having been a police officer for 37 years I am well aware that innocent people are convicted of crimes everyday. A just system allows for mistakes to be rectified.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

The problem isn't the death penalty as such, it is to which offenses it is applied. Whatever your view of the DP may be, in order to be sentenced with it here, you have to have killed someone.

Really what about the 129 people who have been sentenced to death and been on death row, who have subsequently been proved innocent by DNA evidence. They didn't kill anybody.

The question appears irrelevant (as does Scott's comment) as the case is in Afghanistan which (last I checked) has an entirely different set of laws than the US.

[Scott & Lai 12]

but it also isn't justice for them to be in prison for life, or to receive any other punishments, because they did not in fact murder anyone.

You might not consider it justice, but it allows for mistakes to be corrected, executing someone doesn't and certainly isn't justice. Therefore pointing out the 129 known mistakes since DNA testing is valid.

Asking questions about women's rights under Islam and distributing reports on the subject is hardly an "offense" that comes anywhere near the severity of murder, and absolutely should not be considered a capital crime. It shouldn't be a crime at all. If this student is executed, that will be murder, a gross injustice, and an unequivocal act of evil.

So if you don't agree with a countries laws then someone who is executed under those laws is murdered. That standard should then apply if people disagree with the death penalty, so they could say that State commits the same crime as the individual and each is equally wrong.

Having been a police officer for 37 years I am well aware that innocent people are convicted of crimes everyday. A just system allows for mistakes to be rectified.

Do you not see the difference between the issue of innocent people being wrongly convicted and punished vs. the question of whether an act a person has in fact committed should be a crime at all? Of course pointing out those 129 mistakes is valid; I'm saying it is a separate issue from what constitues a just punishment for an actual guilty person.

And do you think it is reasonable, let alone just, for murder and speaking up for women's rights to both get the same severe punishment, whether the death penalty or life in prison?