Dr. Arthur Robinson (OISM) to Release Names of over 30,000 Scientists Rejecting Global Warming Hypothesis

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(It just gets better and better... Gary, just walk away from this and save yourself from further humiliation)

Mr. Jim Ball, head of the Evangelical Environmental Network (www.creationcare.org) and author of the following public letter speaking about the Petition Project (www.oism.org/pproject):

The Partners of the NRPE look to respected scientists within their own traditions as well as the most highly regarded scientific bodies for sound scientific analysis. An issue the Interfaith Council for Environmental Stewardship raises repeatedly is global warming, which they describe as an "unfounded or undue" concern. To justify their stance they cite an Internet petition from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine that claims to have over 17,000 signatories. The only criterion for signing was a Bachelors degree in a scientific field.

(Since I have a BA in Psychology, I could have been a signatory.) No checking was done on who signed, and for a time several fictitious persons (e.g. TV lawyer Perry Mason) were included.

Instead of looking to an Internet poll for sound scientific analysis on global warming, EEN has relied on discussions with senior evangelical scientists (please note that the American Scientific Affiliation, the association of evangelical scientists, is one of EEN's partners) and on the findings of the most respected and authoritative scientific body on global warming, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)....

[GaryC 7]

I didn't take Science past Sixth Form college - but I do know that scientific research papers are written to established academic formats, precisely to allow for easy reference and quick recall of data. They also have abstracts summarising the entire paper so that other researchers can pull them up and find out what they are about at a glance.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

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I didn't take Science past Sixth Form college - but I do know that scientific research papers are written to established academic formats, precisely to allow for easy reference and quick recall of data. They also have abstracts summarising the entire paper so that other researchers can pull them up and find out what they are about at a glance.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

Give it a break Gary.

I mean if you want to have a reading contest come on over to Chicago. This would be the third time I invite you over. We can couple the Wisconsin fast plant experiment with a quick learning session in reading a "science" paper, a review no doubt, which you are now making infamous here and available for even the non-scientists to read and laugh at as well... in 20 minutes OMG!

[GaryC 7]

(It just gets better and better... Gary, just walk away from this and save yourself from further humiliation)

Mr. Jim Ball, head of the Evangelical Environmental Network (www.creationcare.org) and author of the following public letter speaking about the Petition Project (www.oism.org/pproject):

The Partners of the NRPE look to respected scientists within their own traditions as well as the most highly regarded scientific bodies for sound scientific analysis. An issue the Interfaith Council for Environmental Stewardship raises repeatedly is global warming, which they describe as an "unfounded or undue" concern. To justify their stance they cite an Internet petition from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine that claims to have over 17,000 signatories. The only criterion for signing was a Bachelors degree in a scientific field.

(Since I have a BA in Psychology, I could have been a signatory.) No checking was done on who signed, and for a time several fictitious persons (e.g. TV lawyer Perry Mason) were included.

Instead of looking to an Internet poll for sound scientific analysis on global warming, EEN has relied on discussions with senior evangelical scientists (please note that the American Scientific Affiliation, the association of evangelical scientists, is one of EEN's partners) and on the findings of the most respected and authoritative scientific body on global warming, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)....

Your holier than thou attitude is the most humiliating thing here. You just don't see how others are looking at your attacks based on someones faith. This subject isn't about religion nor is it germaine to this conversation. But you seem to think that because a person of faith has an opinion that you don't like it's ok to attack them for it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I didn't take Science past Sixth Form college - but I do know that scientific research papers are written to established academic formats, precisely to allow for easy reference and quick recall of data. They also have abstracts summarising the entire paper so that other researchers can pull them up and find out what they are about at a glance.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

I think you can tell at a glance the difference between a review paper and the academic write up of an actual research study.

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I think the red font is a little more important... Gary... enough comedy reading for one night. Enough...

[GaryC 7]

I didn't take Science past Sixth Form college - but I do know that scientific research papers are written to established academic formats, precisely to allow for easy reference and quick recall of data. They also have abstracts summarising the entire paper so that other researchers can pull them up and find out what they are about at a glance.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

Give it a break Gary.

I mean if you want to have a reading contest come on over to Chicago. This would be the third time I invite you over. We can couple the Wisconsin fast plant experiment with a quick learning session in reading a "science" paper, a review no doubt, which you are now making infamous here and available for even the non-scientists to read and laugh at as well... in 20 minutes OMG!

You give it a break. I could bury you under a mountain of evidence and you would still deny it. Your lack of objectivity and obvious bias makes you the one to laugh at.

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Not all evangelicals are survivalist nuts like Dr. Robinson.

http://www.creationcare.org/about.php

The Evangelical Environmental Network (EEN) is a non-profit organization that seeks to educate, inspire, and mobilize Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment.

EEN's work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to tend the garden and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow Him. EEN publishes materials to equip and inspire individuals, families, and churches; and seeks to educate and mobilize people to make a difference in their churches and communities, and to speak out on national and international policies that effect our ability to preach the Gospel, protect life, and care for God's Creation.

[GaryC 7]

I think the red font is a little more important... Gary... enough comedy reading for one night. Enough...

So a few false names slipped in. Do you think the other 29,999 names are fake? Typical. Why even argue with a closed mind like yours?

Not all evangelicals are survivalist nuts like Dr. Robinson.

http://www.creationcare.org/about.php

The Evangelical Environmental Network (EEN) is a non-profit organization that seeks to educate, inspire, and mobilize Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment.

EEN's work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to tend the garden and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow Him. EEN publishes materials to equip and inspire individuals, families, and churches; and seeks to educate and mobilize people to make a difference in their churches and communities, and to speak out on national and international policies that effect our ability to preach the Gospel, protect life, and care for God's Creation.

I see, the only good evangelicals are the ones you agree with. The ones you don't agree with are nuts. Very nice.

[HAL 9000 96]

I didn't take Science past Sixth Form college - but I do know that scientific research papers are written to established academic formats, precisely to allow for easy reference and quick recall of data. They also have abstracts summarising the entire paper so that other researchers can pull them up and find out what they are about at a glance.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

Give it a break Gary.

I mean if you want to have a reading contest come on over to Chicago. This would be the third time I invite you over. We can couple the Wisconsin fast plant experiment with a quick learning session in reading a "science" paper, a review no doubt, which you are now making infamous here and available for even the non-scientists to read and laugh at as well... in 20 minutes OMG!

You give it a break. I could bury you under a mountain of evidence and you would still deny it. Your lack of objectivity and obvious bias makes you the one to laugh at.

Well... please... bring us the EVIDENCE... no more OP EDS and opinions of others' opinions...

Does that mean that you could actually understand the point of view you espouse or would this innate ability also come with a dose of laughter? Sorry to bug you with that... its just that, with all due respect, Gary, it shows that you yet have to understand some very simple scientific precepts... including the difference between evidence and what others say is evidence.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

(It just gets better and better... Gary, just walk away from this and save yourself from further humiliation)

Mr. Jim Ball, head of the Evangelical Environmental Network (www.creationcare.org) and author of the following public letter speaking about the Petition Project (www.oism.org/pproject):

The Partners of the NRPE look to respected scientists within their own traditions as well as the most highly regarded scientific bodies for sound scientific analysis. An issue the Interfaith Council for Environmental Stewardship raises repeatedly is global warming, which they describe as an "unfounded or undue" concern. To justify their stance they cite an Internet petition from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine that claims to have over 17,000 signatories. The only criterion for signing was a Bachelors degree in a scientific field.

(Since I have a BA in Psychology, I could have been a signatory.) No checking was done on who signed, and for a time several fictitious persons (e.g. TV lawyer Perry Mason) were included.

Instead of looking to an Internet poll for sound scientific analysis on global warming, EEN has relied on discussions with senior evangelical scientists (please note that the American Scientific Affiliation, the association of evangelical scientists, is one of EEN's partners) and on the findings of the most respected and authoritative scientific body on global warming, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)....

Your holier than thou attitude is the most humiliating thing here. You just don't see how others are looking at your attacks based on someones faith. This subject isn't about religion nor is it germaine to this conversation. But you seem to think that because a person of faith has an opinion that you don't like it's ok to attack them for it.

There is a valid point here though isn't there?

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I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

Did you expect anything else? He seems to have a comment on everything yet we know absolutely nothing about his background or so-called 'area of expertise'. He is also first to try to discredit anything he disagrees with.

[HAL 9000 96]

Not all evangelicals are survivalist nuts like Dr. Robinson.

http://www.creationcare.org/about.php

The Evangelical Environmental Network (EEN) is a non-profit organization that seeks to educate, inspire, and mobilize Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment.

EEN's work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to tend the garden and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow Him. EEN publishes materials to equip and inspire individuals, families, and churches; and seeks to educate and mobilize people to make a difference in their churches and communities, and to speak out on national and international policies that effect our ability to preach the Gospel, protect life, and care for God's Creation.

I mean... even Pat Robertson agrees that the environment needs our attention.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think the red font is a little more important... Gary... enough comedy reading for one night. Enough...

So a few false names slipped in. Do you think the other 29,999 names are fake? Typical. Why even argue with a closed mind like yours?

Not all evangelicals are survivalist nuts like Dr. Robinson.

http://www.creationcare.org/about.php

The Evangelical Environmental Network (EEN) is a non-profit organization that seeks to educate, inspire, and mobilize Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment.

EEN's work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to tend the garden and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow Him. EEN publishes materials to equip and inspire individuals, families, and churches; and seeks to educate and mobilize people to make a difference in their churches and communities, and to speak out on national and international policies that effect our ability to preach the Gospel, protect life, and care for God's Creation.

I see, the only good evangelicals are the ones you agree with. The ones you don't agree with are nuts. Very nice.

ID Theory is very nutty.

I posted the link at 6:28 and he was discounting it at 6:38. Given that it takes time to follow the link, come back to VJ and post a response he couldn't have done any more than skim it. In other words, he made up him mind before reading it. Not very scientific if you ask me.

Did you expect anything else? He seems to have a comment on everything yet we know absolutely nothing about his background or so-called 'area of expertise'. He is also first to try to discredit anything he disagrees with.

Bitter?

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if stop getting cold/snow this is really bad sign.