Bush criticizes Arab nations for repression

[doodlebugg 10]

What I was saying though, there is a growing population of young crowds in the Middle east who (probably a minority I'm speaking of) they want to westernize their countries. To give more freedom to people it can actually hurt a country if you think about it out of context. That could be a big problem in the Middle East region because what religion is followed by majority over there - Islam .

What problems are we facing today - terrorists i.e. Bin Laden sending a video to Bush- If your country embraces Islam we will embrace USA if not we will continue to kill all of you. What are Terrorists aim? to destroy anything Western or "haraam" as they keep in mentality. They are not for anything American, European, Canadian, etc..

I'm confused here. You don't want the young middle easterners to be able to have a vote because they'll westernize the middle east but at the same time you say that freedom will be a problem because they are all muslim. Then you say that terrorists aim to destroy all things western.

So......following that does that mean you agree with the terrorists since you don't want the younger middle easterners to be able to vote and westernize the middle east? And if you think Islam is such a problem why did you marry a muslim?

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

so there you go. he has an ivy league diploma, and you and i don't. and plenty of businesses fail don't they? but i know, that detracts from the bush bashing.

Ok, personally, I dont care where he (or any other prez) went to school, but I have to say that just because someone went to a school that was established in the colonial period and is known for snobbery and social elitism, doesn't make him better than you or me. I was accepted into Princeton but couldn't afford the tuition, even with financial aid. I just wanted to see if I could get in (although on a side note, I did NOT get into Tulane, which is where I really wanted to go). I don't think an Ivy League degree makes someone superior.

Besides, how many presidents went to Ivy Leagues schools for at least one degree?

I have more respect for Lynne Cheney with her Phd in Brit Lit (not from an Ivy League school) and her work as a writer and the former head of the NEH. That impresses me.

I forgot now why I started ranting...

so meanwhile, back at the farm...........

Yes well, the point still remains that there's no real reason to be impressed just because he spent a couple of years at Harvard. It doesn't make him more qualified/a better person/worthy of worship, etc.

the point about harvard was due to him being called retarded - refer to posts 32 and 34

[SaadBell 0]

Why did he not read the security briefing on August 6, which stated that BinLaden would attack United States by high jacking airplanes?

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Why did he not read the security briefing on August 6, which stated that BinLaden would attack United States by high jacking airplanes?

do you expect him to read every intel report produced by the us intel community?

[SaadBell 0]

Dude it was in his daily briefing, he can't handle reading the daily brief? Also answer me this one, When no one could fly, there were some people that were allowed to fly out of the America, expect the Bin Ladens. Why is that, why not question them, they are family members. They took them out of America on September 13, unbelievable, and the family does have contact with Osama, than why were they at a wedding for one of Osama's son, they got together than, and interesting, but they could leave the country without any questioning. Nice to have tons of money and president in your pocket.

[SaadBell 0]

What if Clinton would have gotten the McVeigh’s family out of the country after the bombing? Sounds like what is fair for one family, why not for the McVeigh’s family? Oh and what if Clinton had business with the McVeigh’s family like Bush with the BinLandens, bet that would go over well, but yet we just let this kind of ####### go without anyone paying for anything.

[doodlebugg 10]

Dude it was in his daily briefing, he can't handle reading the daily brief? Also answer me this one, When no one could fly, there were some people that were allowed to fly out of the America, expect the Bin Ladens. Why is that, why not question them, they are family members. They took them out of America on September 13, unbelievable, and the family does have contact with Osama, than why were they at a wedding for one of Osama's son, they got together than, and interesting, but they could leave the country without any questioning. Nice to have tons of money and president in your pocket.

Some of his family used to live in the Charlestown Navy Yard.......only really houses the USS Constitution and all other buildings are either used by companies as office buildings or are million dollar condos...........and I totally remember taking wicked long to get into work (I worked in an office building there) because the security was HUGE protecting his family. Then WHAM, they were all gone. *poof*

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Dude it was in his daily briefing, he can't handle reading the daily brief? Also answer me this one, When no one could fly, there were some people that were allowed to fly out of the America, expect the Bin Ladens. Why is that, why not question them, they are family members. They took them out of America on September 13, unbelievable, and the family does have contact with Osama, than why were they at a wedding for one of Osama's son, they got together than, and interesting, but they could leave the country without any questioning. Nice to have tons of money and president in your pocket.

was that the only thing in the daily briefing? also, how was it phrased?

and are you supposing the bin laden family as a whole was guilty? maybe now is the time to dig up that hitler comparison, eh?

What if Clinton would have gotten the McVeigh’s family out of the country after the bombing? Sounds like what is fair for one family, why not for the McVeigh’s family? Oh and what if Clinton had business with the McVeigh’s family like Bush with the BinLandens, bet that would go over well, but yet we just let this kind of ####### go without anyone paying for anything.

was the bin laden family usc's?

you're comparing apples to oranges.

[SaadBell 0]

Talk to me about the Carlyle Group, you know they were having a meeting the day of 9-11, and they made a ton of money from the tragedy, also in Iraq. Also talk to me about James R. Bath, why is his name blacked out on Bush’s military record, could it be that Bath, was once BinLaden’s money manager. You are saying this is not some shady stuff, come on, this is just Saudi oil money, and they always helped out Bush, now it is time for Bush to help them, and he sure has.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Talk to me about the Carlyle Group, you know they were having a meeting the day of 9-11, and they made a ton of money from the tragedy, also in Iraq. Also talk to me about James R. Bath, why is his name blacked out on Bush’s military record, could it be that Bath, was once BinLaden’s money manager. You are saying this is not some shady stuff, come on, this is just Saudi oil money, and they always helped out Bush, now it is time for Bush to help them, and he sure has.

sounds to me like you have your mind made up already with whatever "facts" you see fit. buy into conspiracy theories much?

[morocco4ever 63]

rather interesting that bush is "retarded" yet he graduated from harvard.....

If there is but one thing I have learned is that not all intellects are intelligent. Oh wait.....this still doesn't explain Bush does it?

[SaadBell 0]

conspiracy theories

No not about any kind of conspiracy, it is about money, and lots of money. The president of Saudi was hanging out in the White House, on September 13, why???????????? The president told them to find an Iraq guilty, he wanted to place this in Iraq's lap, and he did. Why? So we bomb Afghanistan, we didn’t do so much did we, we only put 11,000 troops there, more police in New York city than the troops in Afghanistan, you think that is a smart move. But then we needed that pipe line deal, in Afghanistan, what was the company to help, Hulbert, oh that is right, isn’t someone we knew on that company, Chaney, and Kenneth Laye.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

conspiracy theories

No not about any kind of conspiracy, it is about money, and lots of money. The president of Saudi was hanging out in the White House, on September 13, why???????????? The president told them to find an Iraq guilty, he wanted to place this in Iraq's lap, and he did. Why? So we bomb Afghanistan, we didn’t do so much did we, we only put 11,000 troops there, more police in New York city than the troops in Afghanistan, you think that is a smart move. But then we needed that pipe line deal, in Afghanistan, what was the company to help, Hulbert, oh that is right, isn’t someone we knew on that company, Chaney, and Kenneth Laye.

[SaadBell 0]

Why not go after BinLanden, why only a small amount of troops in Afghanistan? He sure as hell not in Iraq, but who cares about him, we will go after Iraq. ####### was that, and what happen to BinLanden, oh that is right, he is free still and most likely never be punished for his actions on 9/11. To me it doesn’t make sense, but then again, who am I? Just another stupid sheep, correct.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Why not go after BinLanden, why only a small amount of troops in Afghanistan? He sure as hell not in Iraq, but who cares about him, we will go after Iraq. ####### was that, and what happen to BinLanden, oh that is right, he is free still and most likely never be punished for his actions on 9/11. To me it doesn’t make sense, but then again, who am I? Just another stupid sheep, correct.

going after him denotes we know where he is, wouldn't it? i didn't know you could prosecute the war on terror better than the cast of thousands of intel specialists, diplomats, and generals.