4 color photos with Palestinian police certificate

[palilover 1]

I'm hoping I can save an extra day by not having to get the one I have copied as that is the "proper white background" that immigration loves so much.

WHO THE HECK TAKES PASSPORT PICS IN A RED BACKGROUND????? lol Only hte palestinians:) omg I about flipped when I opened my ups package from habibi and saw taht everything was done right except the passport pics he got taken.

I looked again at my rfe and it actaully says that the palestinian police certiificate must be accampanied by 4 pictures. It actually does not get more specific than that. I had him do passport pics simply because since when does immigration want a 5x9 pic of habibi posing beside a lemon tree? So I kept it the same standard when I told habibi to get them. But a red background even though passport type photo will not be accepted will they?

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I'm hoping I can save an extra day by not having to get the one I have copied as that is the "proper white background" that immigration loves so much.

WHO THE HECK TAKES PASSPORT PICS IN A RED BACKGROUND????? lol Only hte palestinians:) omg I about flipped when I opened my ups package from habibi and saw taht everything was done right except the passport pics he got taken.

I looked again at my rfe and it actaully says that the palestinian police certiificate must be accampanied by 4 pictures. It actually does not get more specific than that. I had him do passport pics simply because since when does immigration want a 5x9 pic of habibi posing beside a lemon tree? So I kept it the same standard when I told habibi to get them. But a red background even though passport type photo will not be accepted will they?

they have to be a white background, but go to your local CVS or other photo place and see if they can photoshop all the red while and then size it. They may very well be able to save your pics. I had to have all of mine resized because they were too small . Check there first before you have him go all the way back and have to dhl you again

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Hahaha my husband got the ones with the red background at first, too. Even to this day -- there's no such thing as over-explaining things

No, NVC will insist that the photos be on a white background. Maybe your local photo shop can fix it -- not sure. Otherwise -- ask him to email jpgs to you and then you can just print them here. Much faster -- and cheaper -- than DHL.

[warriorprincess 0]

They will have to be a white background. See if you can get them fixed first. If not he'll have to have them done over. Sorry.

[palilover 1]

Thanks guys. I was thinking the worst. Actually....it's no biggie really. Remember my last photo drama I had? I ended up finding a place in Boston that would copy the passport pic I had. (luckily I had one extra) and I thought to make extrra copies of that. but I only have one copy left:) So I do have one with a white/off white background that I will just have them copy tomorrow. It would be easier for them to do that and more possible than just changing the background color.

p.s. funny how you mention having my husband send them in jpeg's:) I As you can sense my frustration I must have had when I was on the phone with him "Habibi I TOLD you to get ones with WHITE background, not RED:)" And then he got his sad voice and said "I'm sorry habibi, this is all my fault" awww but then I thougth of my ONE LAST copy of the white background and I was like whoohoo Good thing I made teh 30 second decision last time I was at the photo shop to have a spare just in case:)

WOM...did the pali police give your husband the envelope and tell him and you not to open it and only immigration/consulate was to open it? I'm really curious about trhat and me being the one who wants to inspect EVERYTHING (after the red passport photos I am not putting too much trust into thsoe guys over there:)) I want to know if that is standard procedure or what. Perhaps it is a security measure so immigration knows it is not tampered with before receiving it?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

WOM...did the pali police give your husband the envelope and tell him and you not to open it and only immigration/consulate was to open it? I'm really curious about trhat and me being the one who wants to inspect EVERYTHING (after the red passport photos I am not putting too much trust into thsoe guys over there:)) I want to know if that is standard procedure or what. Perhaps it is a security measure so immigration knows it is not tampered with before receiving it?

He says they just gave it to him where he could read it (not in an envelope.) He also says he asked them for it in English (the Palestinian police will do a translated version if you ask.)

But this was back when the NVC was not collecting these documents -- they weren't required until the interview stage. Now, nearly 3 years later, procedures may have changed.

[palilover 1]

WOM...did the pali police give your husband the envelope and tell him and you not to open it and only immigration/consulate was to open it? I'm really curious about trhat and me being the one who wants to inspect EVERYTHING (after the red passport photos I am not putting too much trust into thsoe guys over there:)) I want to know if that is standard procedure or what. Perhaps it is a security measure so immigration knows it is not tampered with before receiving it?

He says they just gave it to him where he could read it (not in an envelope.) He also says he asked them for it in English (the Palestinian police will do a translated version if you ask.)

But this was back when the NVC was not collecting these documents -- they weren't required until the interview stage. Now, nearly 3 years later, procedures may have changed.

Yep now nvc collects everything:( Well, I sent the packet today and please say prayers that they finally accept it and give us our much deserved interview!! My poor husband is exhausted and like "What more does immigration want from me? I've given them everything I have!" He acts as if they have requested a sample of blood (and I'm surprised they haven't:)

As for the cert....I did not open it. I was too scared to. Maybe it's new procedure. In my cover letter, I noted that the police requested that it be opened by nvc or consulate personnel. It is in arabic anyays I'm sure so if it was wrong, I doubt anyone in nvc could read it. Judging by the intelligence level, I doubt any one of them can speak arabic:)

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Yep now nvc collects everything:( Well, I sent the packet today and please say prayers that they finally accept it and give us our much deserved interview!! My poor husband is exhausted and like "What more does immigration want from me? I've given them everything I have!" He acts as if they have requested a sample of blood (and I'm surprised they haven't:)

As for the cert....I did not open it. I was too scared to. Maybe it's new procedure. In my cover letter, I noted that the police requested that it be opened by nvc or consulate personnel. It is in arabic anyays I'm sure so if it was wrong, I doubt anyone in nvc could read it. Judging by the intelligence level, I doubt any one of them can speak arabic:)

In our case, *I* was the one who had to give a sample of blood -- it's required for foreigners getting married in Palestine.

How do you know the report inside the envelope is in Arabic if you didn't open it

I don't know if NVC has someone to read Arabic or not. But I have to say it would definitely seem odd if they were requesting documents in languages that they had no way of reading. Did they say that Arabic was OK ?

[kalaks 1]

I'm hoping I can save an extra day by not having to get the one I have copied as that is the "proper white background" that immigration loves so much.

WHO THE HECK TAKES PASSPORT PICS IN A RED BACKGROUND????? lol Only hte palestinians:) omg I about flipped when I opened my ups package from habibi and saw taht everything was done right except the passport pics he got taken.

I looked again at my rfe and it actaully says that the palestinian police certiificate must be accampanied by 4 pictures. It actually does not get more specific than that. I had him do passport pics simply because since when does immigration want a 5x9 pic of habibi posing beside a lemon tree? So I kept it the same standard when I told habibi to get them. But a red background even though passport type photo will not be accepted will they?

The drama with NVC never ends. Now they have our case under a second review for not having a palestinian police certificate! I explained to them it is not applicable to our case since my wife lives in jerusalem where there is no PA there!! Called today and they said it is still under a second review to determine no palestinian police required, and review might take up to 15 days!!! they are insane crazy and have no idea what to do. This only delays the case for no good reason, just because of a stupid reviewer has no idea! He/she has no idea where his/her state is on the map! try explaining my wife is a palestinian with Israeli ID card and Jordanian passport but not under palestinian or jordanian authority and jurisdiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kalaks 1]

Plus what is upseting me more, if you look at the NVC guidlines for JRS consulate jurisdication, it clearly states that palestinians in East Jerusalem are under the Israeli laws and jurisdiction, unfortunatly!!! We provided them with an Israeli police certificate. Plus if they are smart enough, they would know that a Palestinian Certificate is issued for the palestinians in the West Bank AFTER the blessing of the Israeli police first!!!!

[palilover 1]

lol Cant find their own staet on a map, kalaks that was funny but soooo true:)

I did not know that the Israelis had to allow the palestinians to get a police cert from the pali police though..interesting. Maybe that's why it took them a whopping 3-4 weeks to give my husband his.....

NVC people don't even know their own rules so it does not surprise me that they are giving you a rought time. Yes, Palestine is confusing considering one minute its this and one minute it's that over there...BUT our immigration officials act like we are the first ones to try to get a Palestinian in the country, lol That is one thing....they do not even keep up with their own laws, don't know anything about the documentation they send out.....

So help me if I get rfe'd AGAIN due to stupidity on their end, I'm gonna.......throw my head into a wall and gl splat:)

NVC is like an Israeli checkpoint gone mad.....

[kalaks 1]

lol Cant find their own staet on a map, kalaks that was funny but soooo true:)

I did not know that the Israelis had to allow the palestinians to get a police cert from the pali police though..interesting. Maybe that's why it took them a whopping 3-4 weeks to give my husband his.....

NVC people don't even know their own rules so it does not surprise me that they are giving you a rought time. Yes, Palestine is confusing considering one minute its this and one minute it's that over there...BUT our immigration officials act like we are the first ones to try to get a Palestinian in the country, lol That is one thing....they do not even keep up with their own laws, don't know anything about the documentation they send out.....

So help me if I get rfe'd AGAIN due to stupidity on their end, I'm gonna.......throw my head into a wall and gl splat:)

NVC is like an Israeli checkpoint gone mad.....

offcourse, anything the Palestinian police do, they have to get approval from the Israelis first. It is all a joke there having a palestinian authority....they should call it "Israeli 1st palestinian 2nd Authority". All security measures in the West Bank has to be accepted and approved by the Israelis first. The Only Authority they gave us without their approval is the "Ministry of Picking up Garbage" and maybe I am being optomistic here!

[kalaks 1]

lol Cant find their own staet on a map, kalaks that was funny but soooo true:)

I did not know that the Israelis had to allow the palestinians to get a police cert from the pali police though..interesting. Maybe that's why it took them a whopping 3-4 weeks to give my husband his.....

NVC people don't even know their own rules so it does not surprise me that they are giving you a rought time. Yes, Palestine is confusing considering one minute its this and one minute it's that over there...BUT our immigration officials act like we are the first ones to try to get a Palestinian in the country, lol That is one thing....they do not even keep up with their own laws, don't know anything about the documentation they send out.....

So help me if I get rfe'd AGAIN due to stupidity on their end, I'm gonna.......throw my head into a wall and gl splat:)

NVC is like an Israeli checkpoint gone mad.....

Hope you wont get any RFE, I think you had enough. Now my turn, another palestinian for the NVC to pick on!

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Sorry for the troubles and delays you're having, Kalaks and Palilover.

I think that since changing the way things are processed (having NVC collect documents that the consulate used to handle) -- well, the personnel at NVC haven't quite gotten the hang of how things work with this particular situation. Things are much different in Palestine/Israel than with other places. But NVC doesn't get very many Palestinian cases in comparison to other countries, so they're still stumbling their way through.

Actually, the Palestinian police *don't* need an ok from the Israelis to issue a Palestinian police report -- and you have to provide an Israeli one anyway to process your case, so it doesn't really matter.

Thanks for sharing your info, even though it's frustrating -- it will certainly help others who come after you.

-MK

[palilover 1]

lol Cant find their own staet on a map, kalaks that was funny but soooo true:)

I did not know that the Israelis had to allow the palestinians to get a police cert from the pali police though..interesting. Maybe that's why it took them a whopping 3-4 weeks to give my husband his.....

NVC people don't even know their own rules so it does not surprise me that they are giving you a rought time. Yes, Palestine is confusing considering one minute its this and one minute it's that over there...BUT our immigration officials act like we are the first ones to try to get a Palestinian in the country, lol That is one thing....they do not even keep up with their own laws, don't know anything about the documentation they send out.....

So help me if I get rfe'd AGAIN due to stupidity on their end, I'm gonna.......throw my head into a wall and gl splat:)

NVC is like an Israeli checkpoint gone mad.....

Looks like there are three of us palis going through this process at the moment. Immigration is trying to make the three stooges out of us...but I say we all pull through this like the 3 Musketeers:) Let's do this and get out of NVC...all for one and one for allj:)

Hope you wont get any RFE, I think you had enough. Now my turn, another palestinian for the NVC to pick on!