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Gay Couples in New Jersey Could Not File Taxes Jointly for ’06, Court Says (but 2007 filings are ok)

Married D.C. Gay Couples Can File Taxes Jointly

The attorney general for the District said that gay couples married last year in Massachusetts may file joint tax returns in the District but that the city's Office of Tax and Revenue "reserves the authority" to reject their filings.

Giant tax headaches for gay couples

Some states allow same-sex partners to file joint returns, but because the U.S. government doesn't, tax season for gays means additional paperwork and lots more time-sapping computations.

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The couple would prepare a joint state return and a "dummy" joint federal return for the

Massachusetts Department of Revenue -- because the state return is based on the joint

federal return -- and then two individual returns, prepared as single filers, to actually send

to the IRS.

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ZOMG all the straight people are gonna start marrying their friends so they can get tax breaks and insurance! :angry:

Question: can a married same-sex couple file a joint Federal tax return if same-sex marriages are not recognized under Federal Law? :unsure:

This is a fun one, because some States like California require Domestic Partners to file jointly, but they cannot do it federally. If they split and alimony is awarded they get screwed though, because you cannot claim alimony as a write off on federal taxes for a domestic partnership and you have to claim it as a gift, so it is taxed higher for the recipient.

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The federal DOMA prohibits same-sex couples from receiving any federal recognition of their union

with respect to income tax or Social Security.

ZOMG all the straight people are gonna start marrying their friends so they can get tax breaks and insurance! :angry:

Question: can a married same-sex couple file a joint Federal tax return if same-sex marriages are not recognized under Federal Law? :unsure:

This is a fun one, because some States like California require Domestic Partners to file jointly, but they cannot do it federally. If they split and alimony is awarded they get screwed though, because you cannot claim alimony as a write off on federal taxes for a domestic partnership and you have to claim it as a gift, so it is taxed higher for the recipient.

WriteRight offon.

(Sorry - noticed your little spelling boo-boo. :P )

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SAN FRANCISCO - In a monumental victory for the gay rights movement, the California Supreme Court overturned a voter-approved ban on gay marriage Thursday in a ruling that would allow same-sex couples in the nation's biggest state to tie the knot.

Domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage, the justices ruled 4-3 in an opinion written by Chief Justice Ron George.

Outside the courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as news spread of the decision.

"Our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," the court wrote.

The city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples and gay rights groups sued in March 2004 after the court halted San Francisco's monthlong same-sex wedding march.

"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody — not just in the state of California, but throughout the country — will have equal treatment under the law," said City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.

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I think it's great.You know the wedding receptions will be done in-style.Ellen DeGeneres and Portia DeRossi are going to tie the knot now. :unsure:

Whoa, I had never heard of the Portia before. Ellen has done pretty good for herself!

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I think it's great.You know the wedding receptions will be done in-style.Ellen DeGeneres and Portia DeRossi are going to tie the knot now. :unsure:

Whoa, I had never heard of the Portia before. Ellen has done pretty good for herself!

she looks way better since she gained some weight. she used to be sooooo scary skinny

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I think gays should be allowed to marry and enjoy all the fun that comes with the whole package. Nagging, complaining, ungrateful children and the wonderful holidays with the in-laws, why should people like us not want some poor soul to have the same good times. If we have to suffer, I mean, be happy, than they deserve the same rights. :devil:

They already do. All they want is the same right you and I had to marry whomever the heck we choose.

Yea, right. They can marry their mom, dad, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, or whomever or whatever makes them happy. Let's not stop there. Let them marry them all. Why not polygamy too while we are at it. No limits and no boundries. If it feels good do it.

Dude, chill. I don't think people live and die by your opinions, so by all means, spew the hate. We will sleep like babies tonight. Retrograde, much?

Where's the hate? Putting up societal limits is not hate.

The vast majority of humanity on earth does not support, condone, or wish to legitimize homosexuality.

As far as I'm concerned I could care less if someone is a homosexual. It's just not up to the state to sanctify, codify, and promote it. That is what marriage conveys on homosexuality. Hence, the ban on homosexual marriage.

Is it up to the state to sanctify, codify, and promote murder (capital punishment or abortion)? Just wondering.

Incest, why can't first cousins have the right to live happily ever after together?

at least 25 states in the US, every country in western Europe, and Canada, allow first cousins to marry.

I personally don't want to marry any of my cousins, but many countries find it acceptable. Hell, it was expected in many families in England and Europe up until the late 1800s in many cases, most having to do with reasons of dowry/family lands/etc.

I can't believe people think gay marriage will be banned FOREVER. We have become steadily more and more tolerant of Gays over this past century, or half century. Its inevitable. You have to know that.

We've become no more tolerant of Incest or beastiality over the years though. Cultural evolution does not point to more acceptance of these acts. In fact, as a society we've become LESS tolerant of pedophilia and incest over the past several hundred years. It was long ago that Royalty regularly married their kin. Not so today.

As I said all along...this is a societal and cultural issue, not a constitutional or civil rights issue some make it out to be. Homosexuality is not illegal and they are free to be homosexual. However, the issue is that they want the state seal of approval and societal acceptance that marriage conveys. The courts should not be legislating from the bench or imposing societal norms on society at large. That's the way I see it.

I don't buy into the "we need to evolve as a society" logic. Why change an arrangement that has worked well in the past just for the sake of change for change's sake.

Actually, no. That isn't what most gay couples want. Most gay couples who have been in loving, long-term relationships, want to be able to have their partner on insurance. Or to not have to worry that if one of them dies that the family members will swoop in and take everything because the couple wasn't "legal" after all. Or have the right to sit at the bedside of your dying partner in a hospital that allows immediate kin only.

For example. Washington has registered domestic partnerships which allow much of the above.

I don't know any gay couple that wants to get married just so they can have societal acceptance. If they'd wanted societal acceptance, then they'd have stayed quiet about their sexual orientation.

And FWIW, my brother and his partner have been together for well over a decade (it's probably closer to 2 decades) and could care less about societal acceptance. What they do care about is equal rights.

Personally, I believe homosexuality goes against the essence of my faith. However I do not have the right to pass judgment. Hate the sin, not the sinner. My first marriage was never as strong as my brother's partnership. Who has the right to say that what he and his partner feel isn't love? Societal acceptance? BS. It's legal rights they want.

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I think gays should be allowed to marry and enjoy all the fun that comes with the whole package. Nagging, complaining, ungrateful children and the wonderful holidays with the in-laws, why should people like us not want some poor soul to have the same good times. If we have to suffer, I mean, be happy, than they deserve the same rights. :devil:

They already do. All they want is the same right you and I had to marry whomever the heck we choose.

Yea, right. They can marry their mom, dad, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, or whomever or whatever makes them happy. Let's not stop there. Let them marry them all. Why not polygamy too while we are at it. No limits and no boundries. If it feels good do it.

Dude, chill. I don't think people live and die by your opinions, so by all means, spew the hate. We will sleep like babies tonight. Retrograde, much?

Where's the hate? Putting up societal limits is not hate.

The vast majority of humanity on earth does not support, condone, or wish to legitimize homosexuality.

As far as I'm concerned I could care less if someone is a homosexual. It's just not up to the state to sanctify, codify, and promote it. That is what marriage conveys on homosexuality. Hence, the ban on homosexual marriage.

Is it up to the state to sanctify, codify, and promote murder (capital punishment or abortion)? Just wondering.

Incest, why can't first cousins have the right to live happily ever after together?

at least 25 states in the US, every country in western Europe, and Canada, allow first cousins to marry.

I personally don't want to marry any of my cousins, but many countries find it acceptable. Hell, it was expected in many families in England and Europe up until the late 1800s in many cases, most having to do with reasons of dowry/family lands/etc.

I can't believe people think gay marriage will be banned FOREVER. We have become steadily more and more tolerant of Gays over this past century, or half century. Its inevitable. You have to know that.

We've become no more tolerant of Incest or beastiality over the years though. Cultural evolution does not point to more acceptance of these acts. In fact, as a society we've become LESS tolerant of pedophilia and incest over the past several hundred years. It was long ago that Royalty regularly married their kin. Not so today.

As I said all along...this is a societal and cultural issue, not a constitutional or civil rights issue some make it out to be. Homosexuality is not illegal and they are free to be homosexual. However, the issue is that they want the state seal of approval and societal acceptance that marriage conveys. The courts should not be legislating from the bench or imposing societal norms on society at large. That's the way I see it.

I don't buy into the "we need to evolve as a society" logic. Why change an arrangement that has worked well in the past just for the sake of change for change's sake.

Actually, no. That isn't what most gay couples want. Most gay couples who have been in loving, long-term relationships, want to be able to have their partner on insurance. Or to not have to worry that if one of them dies that the family members will swoop in and take everything because the couple wasn't "legal" after all. Or have the right to sit at the bedside of your dying partner in a hospital that allows immediate kin only.

For example. Washington has registered domestic partnerships which allow much of the above.

I don't know any gay couple that wants to get married just so they can have societal acceptance. If they'd wanted societal acceptance, then they'd have stayed quiet about their sexual orientation.

And FWIW, my brother and his partner have been together for well over a decade (it's probably closer to 2 decades) and could care less about societal acceptance. What they do care about is equal rights.

Personally, I believe homosexuality goes against the essence of my faith. However I do not have the right to pass judgment. Hate the sin, not the sinner. My first marriage was never as strong as my brother's partnership. Who has the right to say that what he and his partner feel isn't love? Societal acceptance? BS. It's legal rights they want.

Excellent post, well said.

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Let them be happy, I don't see the point why society is against this?? Homophobics, that's what they are. They have to right to pursue happiness and if they are not messing up with other people's lives, why should we mess up with theirs.

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Actually, no. That isn't what most gay couples want. Most gay couples who have been in loving, long-term relationships, want to be able to have their partner on insurance. Or to not have to worry that if one of them dies that the family members will swoop in and take everything because the couple wasn't "legal" after all. Or have the right to sit at the bedside of your dying partner in a hospital that allows immediate kin only.

For example. Washington has registered domestic partnerships which allow much of the above.

I don't know any gay couple that wants to get married just so they can have societal acceptance. If they'd wanted societal acceptance, then they'd have stayed quiet about their sexual orientation.

And FWIW, my brother and his partner have been together for well over a decade (it's probably closer to 2 decades) and could care less about societal acceptance. What they do care about is equal rights.

Personally, I believe homosexuality goes against the essence of my faith. However I do not have the right to pass judgment. Hate the sin, not the sinner. My first marriage was never as strong as my brother's partnership. Who has the right to say that what he and his partner feel isn't love? Societal acceptance? BS. It's legal rights they want.

Excellent post, well said.

Thank you. I was afraid I'd come off all "on a soapbox." I feel very strongly about this and let me tell you, as a Catholic high school teacher it doesn't make me too popular sometimes :) But I don't think it's an issue based on religion.

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I think same-sex couples want both societal acceptance and legal rights. It's not as simple as saying if they wanted societal acceptance then they'd stay in the closet; I think they want to not have to be in the closet and have society accept them for being who they are. I am talking from experience (not me myself, but someone very close to me).

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There are a few options missing in that poll of yours. After all, I suspect that there are a fair number of usc and non-usc males and females who would support a homosexual couple's right to marry w/o ever having personally had any gay or lesbian encounter. That might sound very odd to some but this is where I suppose you'd find a good portion of the modern population.

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Actually, no. That isn't what most gay couples want. Most gay couples who have been in loving, long-term relationships, want to be able to have their partner on insurance. Or to not have to worry that if one of them dies that the family members will swoop in and take everything because the couple wasn't "legal" after all. Or have the right to sit at the bedside of your dying partner in a hospital that allows immediate kin only.

For example. Washington has registered domestic partnerships which allow much of the above.

I don't know any gay couple that wants to get married just so they can have societal acceptance. If they'd wanted societal acceptance, then they'd have stayed quiet about their sexual orientation.

And FWIW, my brother and his partner have been together for well over a decade (it's probably closer to 2 decades) and could care less about societal acceptance. What they do care about is equal rights.

Personally, I believe homosexuality goes against the essence of my faith. However I do not have the right to pass judgment. Hate the sin, not the sinner. My first marriage was never as strong as my brother's partnership. Who has the right to say that what he and his partner feel isn't love? Societal acceptance? BS. It's legal rights they want.

Excellent post, well said.

Thank you. I was afraid I'd come off all "on a soapbox." I feel very strongly about this and let me tell you, as a Catholic high school teacher it doesn't make me too popular sometimes :) But I don't think it's an issue based on religion.

:lol:

Hey I get into it over evolution with the brother in law... a soon to be priest in the Saintly Society of St Pius X... as conservative within the Catholic Church as you can get. No worries though... he blessed our sinful marriage quite readily!!! :D

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