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I thought the administration had abandoned this stale old guff, comparing the current situation in the ME with WW2 - but I guess some things never change.

Hard to see how he can get more irrelevant...

President Bush launched a sharp but veiled attack Thursday on Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats, suggesting they favor "appeasement" of terrorists in the same way some Western leaders appeased Hitler in the run-up to World War II.

The president did not name Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

After Bush's comments were widely reported, the White House denied they were an attack aimed at Obama.

According to Obama's Web site, he favors "tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions, and is willing to meet with the leaders of all nations, friend and foe."

He does not favor talks with Hamas, which the U.S. government has listed as a terrorist group.

Former President Jimmy Carter recently wrapped up a trip to the Middle East, which included talks with leaders of Hamas, an Islamic fundamentalist group that controls the Palestinian territory of Gaza.

"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," Bush said at Israel's 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem.

"We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to Israel's parliament, the Knesset.

"As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Doubts about Obama with Jewish Americans were earlier stoked by Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee in the 2008 presidential election, when he recently charged that Obama is the favored candidate of Hamas.

Obama last week called the Hamas allegation a "smear" and lashed out Thursday at Bush's speech in Israel.

"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in a statement released to CNN by his campaign. "It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. ...

"George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel," Obama's statement said

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Bush's comment was not a "slam" aimed at Obama.

"There are many who have suggested these types of negotiations with people that the president, President Bush, thinks that we should not talk to," she told reporters after the president's comment was widely reported.

The Bush administration held three rounds of discussions with Iran about security in Iraq last year, including two at the ambassadorial level, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Wednesday said Washington needed to "figure out a way to develop some leverage ... and then sit down and talk with" Iran.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, condemned Bush's comments and suggested that McCain denounce them.

Pelosi, who leaves later Thursday on a bipartisan congressional trip to Israel, said there is a "protocol" of not criticizing the president when he is abroad, but then declared, "I think what the president did in that regard is beneath the dignity of the office of president and unworthy of our representation at that observance in Israel."

Howard Dean, the Democratic Party chairman, also called on McCain to denounce the comment.

McCain declined to do so Thursday, instead criticizing Obama's willingness to talk to the president of Iran.

"It is a serious error on the part of Sen. Obama that shows naiveté and inexperience and lack of judgment to say that he wants to sit down across the table from an individual who leads a country who says that Israel is a stinking corpse," McCain told reporters.

Joe Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called Bush's comments "bulls**t" and said if the president disagrees so strongly with the idea of talking to Iran then he needs to fire his secretaries of State and Defense, both of whom Biden said have pushed to sit down with the Iranians.

"This is bulls**t. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset ... and make this kind of ridiculous statement," said Biden, D-Delaware.

Bush largely focused his speech in Jerusalem on highlighting the American-Israeli partnership. "The alliance between our governments is unbreakable, yet the source of our friendship runs deeper than any treaty," he said.

Bush said the United States and Israel are locked in an ideological struggle with radicals in the Middle East, using the speech to tie al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to the terror groups Hamas and Hezbollah.

"That is why the founding charter of Hamas calls for the 'elimination' of Israel," Bush said. "That is why the followers of Hezbollah chant 'Death to Israel, Death to America!' That is why Osama bin Laden teaches that 'the killing of Jews and Americans is one of the biggest duties.' And that is why the president of Iran dreams of returning the Middle East to the Middle Ages and calls for Israel to be wiped off the map."

Bush then made his transition to Obama and other Democrats without naming names, raising the specter of the Holocaust to make his point.

"There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain their words away," said Bush. "This is natural. But it is deadly wrong.

"As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously. Jews and Americans have seen the consequences of disregarding the words of leaders who espouse hatred. And that is a mistake the world must not repeat in the 21st century," the president said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/bush.dems/index.html

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President Bush launched a sharp but veiled attack.

How can something veiled be sharp? :rofl:

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More to the point how did he "launch" this attack?

Was he using some sort of missile apparatus :wacko:

I thought the National Guard Pilot got out of serving in Vietnam.

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bush lost this country..why would anyone over seas take him serious..the gop don't

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

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More to the point how did he "launch" this attack?

Was he using some sort of missile apparatus :wacko:

Maybe he has some hidden skills?

What was he trying to do with this speech??

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Its an obvious attempt to smear the Democrats in the general election by claiming that they are "soft on terror".

Coming from the guy who "went off half-cocked on terror", anything is an improvement.

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

82% of ppl polled, not 82% of americans! get it right twisty.

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

i never figured you for a might makes right guy.

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

i never figured you for a might makes right guy.

Nay... I am just going off of what the tendencies say these days. Kinda shows me that those that were saying so were right way back when it was "not cool" to do so.

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

i never figured you for a might makes right guy.

Nay... I am just going off of what the tendencies say these days. Kinda shows me that those that were saying so were right way back when it was "not cool" to do so.

so just because everyone else is saying it that makes it right? :whistle:

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The Parrots will soon chime in with their verbatim responses.

like those with bds do with theirs?

I think the deranged ones are the parrots, so maybe you are right. Lucky me my verbatim is supported by what? 82% of Americans now?

i never figured you for a might makes right guy.

Nay... I am just going off of what the tendencies say these days. Kinda shows me that those that were saying so were right way back when it was "not cool" to do so.

so just because everyone else is saying it that makes it right? :whistle:

Charles, its all about what followers do best.

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