KKK endorses McCain: "A black President would go against just about everything we stand for"

[Heracles 417]

Similarly, acknowledging that racism still exists in the U.S. and supporting policies and organizations whose aims are to correct centuries of appalling treatment and staggering inequality (whose effects are still felt today) is distinct from giving murderous inner-city gangsters a free pass.

Maybe you can clarify this current, as per 2008, "appalling treatment and staggering inequality" you and certain others keep on beating on about.

Reread the sentence, please.

This thread is a rehash of one from a few weeks ago. I suggested that you take a gander at the excellent documentary Eyes on the Prize.

I am not interested in any documentary. I am interested in hearing exactly how white America, in 2008, is carrying out and promoting, and I quote, "appalling treatment and staggering inequality" for black Americans.

Edited May 15, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Heracles 417]

Agnes please! Inequality is found everywhere,in every segment of all our lives.My god girll! You have been injected with black guilt.

Are you serious? I thought only inner city black Americans suffer from in equality. After all the white people in trailer parks are obviously living the dream.

[Heracles 417]

everyone just start hugging and make up! spread the love VJers!!!!!!!!

Just have a look at the following posts and their context from maviwaro alone

Insults: 47 50 70 88 92 141 157 163 182 184 191 201 202 209

Racism: 138 207

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

BY appears to be suggesting that he sees no difference between the NAACP, Reverend Wright and the Trinity Church, The Nation of Islam and the Black Panthers etc. etc. - and that blacks have no identifiable culture or values of their own that can't be boiled down to hippity hop music, low-hung trousers and drive-by shootings. At least - that's what I get from his postings on this topic... That and that there must be something wrong with Black Africans because they have "f*cked up" every country they have tried to run themselves.

Not being black (or African) I can't speak to that of course - but it does seem just mite cartoonish to me. And that's being kind

And where was all of this posted in 'this thread' again.

All you seem to do is bring up posts from various threads and string them together. Almost like one big nah nah I got you. You haven't got ####.

I think its pretty clear that this is my interpretation of your post history on this subject.

Nice ignore list BTW - that lasted all of a few hours.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Similarly, acknowledging that racism still exists in the U.S. and supporting policies and organizations whose aims are to correct centuries of appalling treatment and staggering inequality (whose effects are still felt today) is distinct from giving murderous inner-city gangsters a free pass.

Maybe you can clarify this current, as per 2008, "appalling treatment and staggering inequality" you and certain others keep on beating on about.

Reread the sentence, please.

This thread is a rehash of one from a few weeks ago. I suggested that you take a gander at the excellent documentary Eyes on the Prize.

I am not interested in any documentary. I am interested in hearing exactly how white America, in 2008, is carrying out and promoting, and I quote, "appalling treatment and staggering inequality" for black Americans.

Reading comprehension could use a bit of work it seems - perhaps you should read the whole sentence rather than the bit that you just highlighted - specifically:

acknowledging that racism still exists in the U.S. and supporting policies and organizations whose aims are to correct centuries of appalling treatment and staggering inequality

What's the problem?

James Watson, DNA researcher and nobel prize winner, who made controversial appalling racist statements about race, intelligence, and related factors.

Controversial? That's putting it mildly.

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Anyway, back to the topic, it should really matter as much that the KKK is endorsing McCain as feces smells like feces. If a foreigner emigrates somewhere that has a certain socioeconomic structure, it would only be common sense for that foreigner to learn into how that structure exists as a result of its constituent parts. No advanced degree is necessary, just a mind open enough to be able to comprehend written words and an ability to synthesize such text into appropriate memories and thoughts such that one avoids making a complete fool of oneself in "public" when trying to discuss that topic.

I'll leave with this shining image for those that do want to make complete dumba$$es of themselves in hopes that the time out will help them reflect a little... of course, without specific reference to anyone in particular or with intent to stir the $hitpot anymore

Spoken like a true Obama fan. Seems that, as usual, you are interpreting statements in ways that suit you own view. Hmm a lot like Wright I see.

You're are probably one of the most biased people I have ever chatted with. Someone who always tries, and I mean always, discredit any opposing views. People cannot even mention their own experience without you suggesting they are talking ####. And then you throw out stuff about foreigners. What is your experience with people abroad? Is it your spouse from Coluuuuuumbia? Or is it the millions of foreigners living in Chicago.

Then you throw out insults like you are a dumb #######. I mean seriously now. Do you actually think anyone is going to go away and cry about it? Do you think anyone really cares what you think? So why say it.

And you are delusionally interpreting things that are written and not written so that must make you even crazier than me. Still doesn't change the fact that you still can't hit the topic even if your pathetic excuse for an argument had a shred of decency, much less sense.

Again, for a person with an utter lack of proper reading comprehension, it should come as a surprise that what is written, either at you or with other members me misread.

Current opinion does imply you take this way too seriously, so don't continue threatening your own blood pressure, unless you got good beta blockers or something along those lines.

No need to feed your ever-present tangents. As you continue to make a mockery of yourself, I'll let your own writings exemplify how much of a true wacko you are here on VJ, but again, its just an internet board with great dialogs should you care to actually participate. Otherwise, please care to ...

It is quite amazing to be honest. One doesn't have to be intelligent to be able to think logically, and one can also be a complete dumba$$ while not making realistic sense either. I guess its the bread and butter of a daily existence.

Look at your posts in this thread man. You discredit anyone's post that does not agree with your views. Plus you think you are right because most people don't waste time writing a thesis to satisfy you. Yet you yourself write short-answer posts which basically state I am right you are wrong and an idiot.

Are there lots of people in Chicago with like-minded views? Probably explains the condition of the city..

Like I said, don't give yourself a heart attack. But thanks once again for displaying so much bravado.

Clarification?

You're the anonymous genius in this forum. You figure it out.

#6 I am not going to waste my time responding to any of your 2 cents worth posts any more. First person on my ignore list. You're a waste of time..

Then I'll bump it until you clarify your own fecal matter.

Bumpy

Celebrate what you are, not what you think makes you superior to everyone else that is exactly like you underneath it all.

Thank goodness the racist nutjobs and those that silently support them are a waning disgrace to this thing we call humanity.

Great. Fantastic. Bravo. Now, does this apply to the African American community. Or are you actually going to sit here and pretend this is not a problem with the so-called, and I quote, "black culture". And then have the "audacity" to turn around and basically suggest that the 2008 KKK is not the same as certain black preachers who ironically teach hatred inside their church. Anyone who doesn't understand that both of those groups are 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other is stupid. Simple as that really.

Cause and effect are two concepts that have been explained to you countless times in these threads. Choosing not to follow a logical course of reality is not exactly an excuse to open up one's own blastopore.

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Plus, 6... the one thing you need to consider in addition to your point of view is that we are all Africans anyway.

I do think that Hyphenated Americans should and can celebrate their cultural ancestry... which is not inclusive of race always. Like its been emphasized over and over and over and over... its not celebrating one's heritage but using one's lack of melanin pigmentation as some kind of mechanism to connote superiority over those that have stronger melanin content in their skin.

Besides, higher melanin content in the skin provides additional safeguards against solar radiation... so if anything its light-skinned humans that need to be mindful of their sun exposure in a world whose ozone layer is not a guarantee.

So you are basically suggesting they are genetically superior to someone white; with lower Melanin..

I am sure you have a different point of view to James Watson, DNA researcher and nobel prize winner, who made controversial statements about race, intelligence, and related factors.

Then I'll bump it until you clarify your own fecal matter.

Sorry engineers don't clarify. We leave that up to scientists.. We solve problems.

We all carry the genes and the amount of melanocytes is roughly the same across the races. Our bodies react to geographical location and melanin is produced proportionately.

Perhaps you may not clarify, but don't tarnish the good and clear work of most engineers I actually know that are engineers when they say they are.

Similarly, acknowledging that racism still exists in the U.S. and supporting policies and organizations whose aims are to correct centuries of appalling treatment and staggering inequality (whose effects are still felt today) is distinct from giving murderous inner-city gangsters a free pass.

Maybe you can clarify this current, as per 2008, "appalling treatment and staggering inequality" you and certain others keep on beating on about.

Well like its been explained yet again, history has cause and history has effects. By simple common sense any logical reader can associate the current calendar year as the effects of yesterday's causes.

Those too ignorant to know their history are condemned to repeat its consequences.

You are so full of utter #######.

Open wide cause that is apparently what your diet consists of.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The existence of the KKK and the attitudes that support white supremacy pretty much required the creation of an organised political group to promote the interest of disenfranchised blacks.

As far as I'm aware - NAACP members aren't going around in black robes looking for white people to lynch. Nor are they lobbying for the disenfranchisement of whites in the way that the KKK does.

Have you ever wondered why the KKK started in the first place..

???????

[Heracles 417]

Those too ignorant to know their history are condemned to repeat its consequences.

You are so full of utter #######.

Open wide cause that is apparently what your diet consists of.

Why because I don't listen to you dribble on? Comprehension is certainly not the issue. Whereas lack of interest in reading your posts certainly is.

I mean you're from Chicago man. So your opinion means #### to me. As does your bro's Obama..

The existence of the KKK and the attitudes that support white supremacy pretty much required the creation of an organised political group to promote the interest of disenfranchised blacks.

As far as I'm aware - NAACP members aren't going around in black robes looking for white people to lynch. Nor are they lobbying for the disenfranchisement of whites in the way that the KKK does.

Have you ever wondered why the KKK started in the first place..

???????

Actually that was a question presented to you.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually that was a question presented to you.

First off it wasn't a question. And I got your implication - that you know something I don't about why that particular organisation was brought into being, presumably out of some sort of necessity or other justifiable reason.

I'm just curious to know what that is.

Edited May 15, 2008 by Number 6

[Heracles 417]

Well like its been explained yet again, history has cause and history has effects. By simple common sense any logical reader can associate the current calendar year as the effects of yesterday's causes.

Sure as hell doesn't explain why so many black Americans I have spoken to in the South have quite a different attitude to those living in northern inner cities. But then again according to you personal experience is irrelevant and anecdotal of course..

Actually that was a question presented to you.

First off it wasn't a question. And I got your implication - that you know something I don't about why that particular organisation was brought into being, presumably out of some sort of necessity or other justifiable reason.

I'm just curious to know what that is.

No it was a question and was merely missing a question mark.

[Heracles 417]

Cause and effect are two concepts that have been explained to you countless times in these threads. Choosing not to follow a logical course of reality is not exactly an excuse to open up one's own blastopore.

Yes I get it. Segregation is responsible for the current high incarceration rate of Black American youth. Clearly the 60's is responsible for 37 shootings over 3 days in Chicago..

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BY-

You have no idea who I am, where I am from, nor an idea of what it means to be logically inclined to stay on topic, so if my opinion means nothing to you, stfu and don't be more of an annoyance just for the sake of being annoying.

As a matter of fact I even think you have no idea of much, to your increasing blood pressure's dismay.

[Heracles 417]

You have no idea who I am, where I am from, nor an idea of what it means to be logically inclined to stay on topic, so if my opinion means nothing to you, stfu and don't be more of an annoyance just for the sake of being annoying.

Look at your posts fool.

They have been summarized for you.

Insults: 47 50 70 88 92 141 157 163 182 184 191 201 202 209 231 232 238

Racist: 138 207

Edited May 15, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well like its been explained yet again, history has cause and history has effects. By simple common sense any logical reader can associate the current calendar year as the effects of yesterday's causes.

Sure as hell doesn't explain why so many black Americans I have spoken to in the South have quite a different attitude to those living in northern inner cities. But then again according to you personal experience is irrelevant and anecdotal of course..

Actually that was a question presented to you.

First off it wasn't a question. And I got your implication - that you know something I don't about why that particular organisation was brought into being, presumably out of some sort of necessity or other justifiable reason.

I'm just curious to know what that is.

No it was a question and was merely missing a question mark.

Any my answers to that can be found here and here.

In short, there's no great mystery why that organisation was started - and no justification for it that a rational, modern person would accept.

If you think different, or have different information - please feel free to share. This of course hinges on you having the courage of your convictions to actually stand behind your implied statement.

Well... Do you?