Young Evangelicals Abandoning GOP Over Iraq, Economy

[Cassie 8]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

Not likely. They may vote third party but Obama will not get those votes.

Don't count on that, Gary.

If they do then they are by definition not evangelical.

I didn't know that they're all required to be in some sort of a lockstep. I thought that was them Nazis only.

Evangelicals are pretty closely defigned. That isn't to confuse them with Christians. That is a broader group. But as a group I doubt if you would get very many true evangelicals voting for someone that believes is unrestricted abortions on demand. It is just against their doctrine.

So, they're one issue voters, eh? I think they're more diverse that you'd like to think.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

[GaryC 7]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

And then they're gonna run to Mr. Flip-Flop McSame instead?

[GaryC 7]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

And then they're gonna run to Mr. Flip-Flop McSame instead?

When put against Mr Leftist you bet.

[Dan J 277]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

Belive what you want Gary, but his record is out, and its not causing any problems for him.

This country is moving more left to be more in line with Europe and other industrialized countries. And it will do it with or without you and your conservative friends.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The insecurities in the posts are so funny to see!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

And then they're gonna run to Mr. Flip-Flop McSame instead?

When put against Mr Leftist you bet.

I think voters prefer a guy that knows where he stands and that voters know where he stands over the guy that stands whichever way the wind du jour happens to position him. Flip-flopping doesn't go over all that well. Ask Kerry.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Thinkin will get you nowhere. Dude your dancin on a soft floor that leads to dissappointment. Its a shame you dont see it.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Blowin so much smoke up your #######! Please send money Whats killin me is most ppl buy this shite.Good luck and have faith in the pandering. Attension wal-mart shoppers. Its so touching what he says huh? He sellin so much #######! And to think your buyin it.

[HAL 9000 96]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

Belive what you want Gary, but his record is out, and its not causing any problems for him.

This country is moving more left to be more in line with Europe and other industrialized countries. And it will do it with or without you and your conservative friends.

Exactly. If his record would have been such an issue Clinton would already be the Democratic Nominee by sheer numbers.

I'm not sure about an actual leftward shift... more so I see it as a leftward shift away from right wing nutjob politics, but to the credit of our more sane right wing friends, some of them are not to blame more than the current lunatics in power whom made plenty of Democrats out of Republicans and undecideds.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

For the evangelicals, they've gone beyond the partisan topic of abortion and have come to realize there are much bigger issues that require their attention.

Bingo. I know a number of them and - unless they are being untruthful when talking to me which I have no reason to believe - many of them are not likely to be voting Republican this fall.

That's the case in my household! My husband will not be voting for McCain.

When I came here to the US, I soon realized that I, when able to vote, would have a hard time choosing which of the two main parties I would support.

The Republicans traditionally stand for some of the moral issues that I deem important.

The Democrats traditionally stand for some of the social issues that I deem important.

Some days it's easy to choose. Other days, I am really glad I am not allowed to vote because it just seems like one big stupid mess where people don't discuss issues anymore, they talk in soundbites and labels.

Nicely said and I believe that's how most voters think.

Get your Dilbert cel ready. Your gonna lose big time. You haven't a clue about the majority if the people in this country. They will run from Obama in droves when his record comes out.

Belive what you want Gary, but his record is out, and its not causing any problems for him.

This country is moving more left to be more in line with Europe and other industrialized countries. And it will do it with or without you and your conservative friends.

Exactly. If his record would have been such an issue Clinton would already be the Democratic Nominee by sheer numbers.

I'm not sure about an actual leftward shift... more so I see it as a leftward shift away from right wing nutjob politics, but to the credit of our more sane right wing friends, some of them are not to blame more than the current lunatics in power whom made plenty of Democrats out of Republicans and undecideds.

That's why I think its important for McC to distance himself from Bush - if he's not offering anything really new he's going to be tarred with that brush.

Whether that will have a significant impact in the general election is difficult to say - too many variables.

[chri'stina 190]

I do wish there was a 3rd prominent party that mixed together some things from the right and some from left. As a Christian (and "evangelical" I guess) I do have the struggle sometimes. I think "big deal if Obama is Pres". It'd be cool to have our first black Pres. I am not going to freak out if he wins(well I am saying this assuming he is the dem nominee). But then if I hear him talk a lot about his stances then I can't help but be turned off by a lot of it. I personally can't see myself voting for him. I am not going to judge Christians who do, I don't think a Christian has to vote Republican of course. And like I said I wish there was a 3rd party who was against abortion but also was into a few more social issues...but since there isn't I pretty much feel like I have to vote for McCain because of certain issues.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Even if there was a third party or a fourth party, I doubt any of them would match my (or your) views precisely. That's why parties and candidates end up building coalitions of people who implicitly agree to prioritize certain issues over others and band together to support a common candidate. The question becomes, what is more important to you?

Edited May 13, 2008 by VJ Troll