Crazy question for the MENA people

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

The nuttyness goes way back. I've tried to be polite but it's impossible in cases with constant rude people. It was like 5th grade I know about my country and I don't need to use that information to join a MENA club or something

What's the algerian cigarette name what's the song what's that dish. Besides God who else would I try to prove myself to? This is online so I guess some people don't care how uneducated they make themselves look.

I'm not an immigrant, I am in the interest of USA I vote according to that. I get angry when someone has migrated to USA and curses it. Calling me an immigrant you just shot down a billion other people with me. You speak like a Red neck racist who doesn't understand America is America because of IMMIGRANTS and their offspring's. Where else do you see cultures/languages meet together like this? I was born in America I take this country as it's my own (If I ever finished a Doctor Degree I'd join the troops and travel with them and do what i could to support America) like I take Algeria. My family in Algeria they just recently married with French locals that's how we have connections in France. I don't need a lecture on what you've studied about Algeria. There are many ways to look at History sometimes it's only comming from a one sided one minded group of people. You can't rely on your personal experiences to speak about one cities rules and regulations. You went one place and saw something well what if another american went there and saw the opposite and trys to push that perception on everyone else? All cultures and regions are consisted of mixed people you have Americans with Irish, Swedish, Scottish heritage that's same thing to Algerians we are still categorized as Arabs. My spouse doesn't even know the first thing how America categorizes people and he already knows he is an Arab. We are indirectly run by France that's why it's not totally Islamic in culture, we greet like French which is forbidden in a fully blasted Islamic country. We're also fighting off terrorists. I'm not debating on anything I'm just telling it like it is in year 2008 not 1993. This is a new generation we don't live in history anymore.

Just because I'm young doesn't mean I don't understand or see things around me. It's everywhere your 10 years olds are more exposed to everything than back in the old days.

You don't know even the most basic information about several things about your country because you are not a born Algerian nor do you have extremely close ties to Algeria. You are French Algerian, smagria. This explains why you dont know the difference between singers, music types, names of items from there,etc .... Second, Algeria IS NOT INDIRECTLY RUN BY FRENCH. French Algerians perhaps arrogantly believe this but Algeria's relationship with France is now one of France having the lower hand not Algeria. The only thing France now has is its restrictions on immigration and its abuse of Algerians within it s borders but France offers very little to Algeria now other than a place to be abused. Your relationship with France is why you do not "live in history."

Algeria has a petrochemical industry that they are opening to both China and the United States with brown root condor from halliburton rebuilding its infrastructure. France is VERY UNHAPPY about this. Considering they only just now decided to open up its nuclear testing archives to the Algerian government.just now started telling the ALgerian government the location of the over 1 million landmines planted all around Algeria.... France is giving Algeria some of this information because Algeria has told them either you start telling the truth about your crimes during your 130 occupation and start making things right or we will sever any interest you have in our oillindustry. Dont tell an Algerian that France runs Algeria. They dont. They wish.. The united states has a stronger foothold than the French do right now and France doesnt like it. All sarkozy can do is cut back on immigration and make things hell for the Algerians that live there.

Its your lack of knowledge about Algeria that led me to believe you were Algerian to believe with . But more sad, its your lack of knowledge of how Islam is tied to the Algerian identity,why history is critical to an Algerian. Our ten year olds are exposed to more than what? Violent extremism? Terror? Who is fighting off terrorists? Do you understand what TAKFIR is? Its the concept that some Algerians held that some people were not muslim enough and some muslims need to be killed because of this. This is what was behind the fratricide in Algeria. You say things that identify yourself as arrogant and patronizing. YOUR TEN YEAR OLDS> you say that you want to defend OUR WOMEN FROM THE PERCEPTION OF FOREIGNERS> As I said, we do not need to be defended. We as Americans actually leave a lot better impression on many Algerians than the smagri that go back to Algeria on vacation, arrogant and patronising, wearing whatever they want, drinking and smoking and doing whatever they please back home. Most Americans are much more culturally sensitive than any smagri I have met. Most of the Americans that I have met married or marrying Algerians, Arabs or other Mena peoples seems to do alot of research into the history of the countries of the men they marry. They study the foods. They do everything they can NOT TO OFFEND and to FIT IN. As I see it, you are not. You have pretty much said you will do as you please. I havent seen that in the American women that I have met marrying mena men. Are all mena men innocents in all of this? Are you right in many of your perceptions of how some MENA men view American women? I have been reading your posts and frankly I think you are right in some of your perceptions. Off in others. But I do know one thing. The smagri girls arent held too much higher than Americans. Why? Because many of them have no respect for Algerian tradition and culture and take a "french attitude" when they go home,complaining about how things are in Algeria and why France is better , etc . Being a BEURETTE is no better than being a redneck.... which frankly , a redneck with respect for a foreign countries culture and traditions is better than a BEURETTE who should know and out of arrogance refuses.

As horrifying as this seems, this is how I see it. You have little or no understanding of your own historic identity, clinging instead like many harki and smagri to the opressor and coloniser past and dont know enough about what the French do and did to dehumanize Algerians to understand why this knowledge is so critical. I have not been consistantly rude to you. I will tell you that now that I know that you do NOT have a substantial amount of people from your family actually living and surviving in Algeria, I completely understand your lack of understanding of the dynamics in modern day Algeria. You are not the first smagri do have a superior attitude towards local muslim Algerians. The difference is is that you are agressive in your ignorance.

I think you should read some Algerian authors. Kateb Yacines "Nedjma" would help you further understand the complexities of how the Algerian revolution shaped the Algerian identity. Assja Djebar, Tahar Djaout's LAST SUMMER OF REASON. I think investing in knowledge of who you are as an Algerian will help you as you marry someone from there because in order to understand Algerians, you need to know who you are. Know what your people actually believe. Understand why islam has such a critical role in the Algerian identity. Then you will be able to say that history is important and understand why it is. Good luck , Sarah. Several people had a responsibility to teach you these things and didnt. They say in Algeria, turn the page. This means just let the past go and then forget about it. I think knowing your past will help you better understand the culture your husband grew up in. It will give you more of an understanding of who France was in all of this. It will help open alot of the doors of your life.

[♥JP♥ 5]

Wahrania...I have news for you...you are NOT Algerian either so STFU already. Your constant quest to prove who is more Algerian is getting old. Your stereotypes of people are getting old. You have bashed Palestinians plenty and made several generalazations about that entire race of people based on your ex. You really need to grow up.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Wahrania...I have news for you...you are NOT Algerian either so STFU already. Your constant quest to prove who is more Algerian is getting old. Your stereotypes of people are getting old. You have bashed Palestinians plenty and made several generalazations about that entire race of people based on your ex. You really need to grow up.

I am NOT bashing Palestinians now nor am I talking about them. I have absolutely no interest in Palestine. Palestinians or anything to do with them and refuse to discuss them. If I have said disparaging things in the past about them, it is not something I am doing now nor will I in the future. Its not something I am interested in nor is it something I will become interested in. Mark my words. People have their own take on the Israeli Palestinian conflict and frankly there are wrongs on both sides, both Israel and Palestine and its not a subject I am particularly interested in. I take this stand when I meet Israelis as well. I lived outside of Tel Aviv in 1984 to 85 and I had opinions back then and frankly for someone that is neither Jewish nor arab, its a no win situation. I didnt have answers then. I still do not. I see wrongs on both sides. But its not my fight. Algeria is a completely other story.

[Martiniolive 0]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

[chaishai 1]

I have absolutely no interest in Palestine. Palestinians or anything to do with them and refuse to discuss them. If I have said disparaging things in the past about them, it is not something I am doing now nor will I in the future.

I cant imagine how any muslim person would have absolutely no interest in palestine? Weird.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I have absolutely no interest in Palestine. Palestinians or anything to do with them and refuse to discuss them. If I have said disparaging things in the past about them, it is not something I am doing now nor will I in the future.

I cant imagine how any muslim person would have absolutely no interest in palestine? Weird.

I dont want to be baited into conversations here Chaichai. I dont want to discuss the subject on this forum because its not productive to the forum. Have you watched this thread completely derail the minute Palestine was brought up? I had a palestinian almost murder me and batter my child (7 years old at the time by throwing him headfirst into a wall) and this forum is not the place to talk about why you don't have relationships with groups of people because of that. I don't hate jews. I am not anti semitic but then again no jew ever stole 5000 dollars from me or battered me. I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT PALESTINE. Yet constantly my former bashing of them is brought up again and again. I dont want to disparage an entire group of people because of bad experiences with several. I have lots of opinions. Some extremely positive. Some extremely negative . But a visa forum is a place for people to get support applying for Visas. Not talk about why they like this group of people or this group. That implies hate. Not something that needs to be on the threads

[doodlebugg 10]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

I think the thread needs some tos violations so it can be closed and a new topic started.. But I am not going to be TOS girl today.... oh no...

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

hey hows the fsh going

[doodlebugg 10]

hey hows the fsh going

is that the test you do 3 days into cycle? my number is 6 so we're good inshallah!

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

I know -- why would anyone actually try to respond to the topic of this thread ?

[SaadBell 0]

I have no idea what is going on, too complicated for my blood.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Oi.

[doodlebugg 10]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

I know -- why would anyone actually try to respond to the topic of this thread ?

OMG I thought this was totally a different thread!!! my bad!!!! I thought I was in the OMG thread LOL

Edited May 14, 2008 by bridget

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

####### happened last night?

[Nagishkaw 510]

Well first.. I think I would be really flattered that he would be willing to go thru all that visa paperwork and waiting for me. I would really think he must love me very much to do that AND be the one traveling back and forth to my country to see me and my family. I would pretty much dismiss any ideas or doubts about him NOT really loving me because of all of his sacrificing on my behalf just to be with me....WOW reading this now I pretty much know why I feel that he sometimes takes me for granted already (even thought he is not here yet). He must feel so confident in my feelings for him that he NEVER doubts my love. He is always telling me how he always feels my love no matter how far away I am or how long we are apart. I on the other hand am always wondering if he really loves me LOL. I read too much negative stuff on these boards and it gets me thinking way too much. I start to freak out and see his cool calm nature as his being "luke warm" about us. After all I am proving my love everyday making our nest...he's basically just waiting OMG here I go again how DOES he put up with it? He calmly says : My love, it is normal for you to feel these things because we are far from each other and we share true love and it only proves to me more how much you love me..... I wish I could get some of that! They words sound good...but I can't FEEL them

ok now I think I'm REALLY not following this thread properly because I have no idea what this post has to do with any of the kajillion topics already brought up in it.

apparently more coffee is needed on the east coast.

I know -- why would anyone actually try to respond to the topic of this thread ?

OMG I thought this was totally a different thread!!! my bad!!!! I thought I was in the OMG thread LOL

The resemblance is striking.