How Green Are you? Measure your Greendex! Calculator from National Geographic.

[chri'stina 190]

I'm ashamed to say that we don't recycle anything right now. If we did my number(50) would have been higher. We just talked the other day though how we really need to recycle some stuff. We have to figure out what day the recycle truck comes and what color bin is for which things.

Oh yeah-About the imported food thing, of course we have to buy some because of needing Indian ingredients for cooking it all the time.

Edited May 8, 2008 by stina&suj

[Scott & Lai 12]

But we are being told that becoming carbon free will NOT devistate the economy.

Why is that again?

you're not supposed to ask questions like that...now go back to your tent and be quiet

[sj5 4]

55

a and b got me good

Edited May 8, 2008 by SJ

[HAL 9000 96]

49 here.

A lot beyond your control if you rent an apartment though...

49 here as well.

Bogus test.

What does this have to do with being green? Is feeling good about yourself make you green?

"People in all countries should have the same standard of living as people in the most wealthy countries."

#######?

I'm having a hard time figuring out why imported foods are more or less green.

Because you waste energy transporting them from A to B.

So to become more green, we have to become less global and more isolationist.

Give it the scale of importance. Not as much less global/more isolationist. Just less [over]consumptive.

Even with that, my score was a 66 answering honestly.

So, if I understand the concept, we become more green by importing less food since the energy expended in transporting the goods is bad for the environment. This would have to have something to do with CO2 and global warming I take it. But we are being told that becoming carbon free will NOT devistate the economy.

Why is that again?

I prefer to look at it with a little more common sense and a little less hyperbole:

if 5% of the world's population (applicable to each consumer nation) would adjust its [over]consumption of the world's resources to an amount more commensurate (proportional) with its fraction, we wouldn't be that concerned with CO2 or GW. Would we?

For example, 5% of the planets population with 25% of the planets resources down on a progressive scale to 5%/24% to 5%/22% to 5%/18% to 5%/10% over time would make for a much cleaner situation without so many gluttons hogging all the resources. I mean, how many burgers per day does one person really need?

[mawilson 2,133]

if 5% of the world's population (applicable to each consumer nation) would adjust its [over]consumption of the world's resources to an amount more commensurate (proportional) with its fraction, we wouldn't be that concerned with CO2 or GW.

You go first. Sell your car, your house, and start living under "third world" conditions.

Do that for a few months, then come back here and tell us how you liked it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So to become more green, we have to become less global and more isolationist.

I agree - I'm all for isolationism.

Good...go back to England.

[mawilson 2,133]

So to become more green, we have to become less global and more isolationist.

I agree - I'm all for isolationism.

Good...go back to England.

You go back to England, you hippie.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So to become more green, we have to become less global and more isolationist.

I agree - I'm all for isolationism.

Good...go back to England.

You go back to England, you hippie.

This is my country, you Cretan.

[HAL 9000 96]

if 5% of the world's population (applicable to each consumer nation) would adjust its [over]consumption of the world's resources to an amount more commensurate (proportional) with its fraction, we wouldn't be that concerned with CO2 or GW.

You go first. Sell your car, your house, and start living under "third world" conditions.

Do that for a few months, then come back here and tell us how you liked it.

See m, contrary to what you suggest, I am not asking Americans to be all-or-nothing idiots.

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

Edited May 8, 2008 by maviwaro

[one...two...tree 2,762]

if 5% of the world's population (applicable to each consumer nation) would adjust its [over]consumption of the world's resources to an amount more commensurate (proportional) with its fraction, we wouldn't be that concerned with CO2 or GW.

You go first. Sell your car, your house, and start living under "third world" conditions.

Do that for a few months, then come back here and tell us how you liked it.

See m, contrary to what you suggest, I am not asking Americans to be all-or-nothing idiots.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

He suffers from afluenza...his happiness depends on material things.

[dalegg 143]

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

(Less common sense and hyperbole coming)

But wait a minute. Lets say we grew our own foods and imported much less. Lets say we cut down on 10% of our imports. Somewhere out there is someone making money off of exports to us, and now we are cutting their overseas business by 10%. A 10% hit to business is not small.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

(Less common sense and hyperbole coming)

But wait a minute. Lets say we grew our own foods and imported much less. Lets say we cut down on 10% of our imports. Somewhere out there is someone making money off of exports to us, and now we are cutting their overseas business by 10%. A 10% hit to business is not small.

Not unless it's one single supplier...are you thinking what I'm thinking?

[dalegg 143]

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

(Less common sense and hyperbole coming)

But wait a minute. Lets say we grew our own foods and imported much less. Lets say we cut down on 10% of our imports. Somewhere out there is someone making money off of exports to us, and now we are cutting their overseas business by 10%. A 10% hit to business is not small.

Not unless it's one single supplier...are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Well okay, I don't care about them and their economic woes. They're cheaters anyway.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

(Less common sense and hyperbole coming)

But wait a minute. Lets say we grew our own foods and imported much less. Lets say we cut down on 10% of our imports. Somewhere out there is someone making money off of exports to us, and now we are cutting their overseas business by 10%. A 10% hit to business is not small.

Not unless it's one single supplier...are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Well okay, I don't care about them and their economic woes. They're cheaters anyway.

Walmart may feel heartbroken though.

[HAL 9000 96]

As I suggested, lets consume what we need, not what we want out of gluttony.

As for what I do in my own conscientious way is not that radical, really:

Recycle

Drive less, walk more. Take public transport more.

Seal windows in the winter, open them more in the summer (and pay less in the process, freakin' duh)

Eat healthier, fresh foods grown locally.

And other ridiculously third worldly things like that.

So how do I like it? I don't mind.

(Less common sense and hyperbole coming)

But wait a minute. Lets say we grew our own foods and imported much less. Lets say we cut down on 10% of our imports. Somewhere out there is someone making money off of exports to us, and now we are cutting their overseas business by 10%. A 10% hit to business is not small.

Well this is why I think the transition to less consumption should be a more gradual endeavor.

(But to be honest- most self-serving "isolationists" don't really care all that much about the global impact of their own greed... hence they care little for being such a large contributor to that 5%/25% ratio I mention before. So even with a sudden, ridiculously out of reality change of heart, they still wouldn't really care to reduce someone else's overseas business... or at least I don't think they would.)