My fiancee does not have a birth certificate...

[aron and tommy 0]

Hello, can anyone help?

My fiancee does not have a birth certificate.

Her birth was never announced and recorded in Thailand.

Anyone know what to about this.

Thanks for your help.

[malego77 2]

How can she got a passport there??

In Mexico you can register yourself in the civil registration if you weren't registered before. I think the same will apply for your fiancee.

[mRs StOcKwElL 1]

How can she got a passport there??

In Mexico you can register yourself in the civil registration if you weren't registered before. I think the same will apply for your fiancee.

Here in Philippines case like that, we wil go to LOCAL CIVIL REGISTRAR and have LATE REGISTRATION...

Just wondering on how she got the passport coz thats the important document to get a passport. Well, not maybe the same case here in Philippines.

Good luck guys!!!

Rodge&Ninfa

[Kang Lang 7]

Hello, can anyone help?

My fiancee does not have a birth certificate.

Her birth was never announced and recorded in Thailand.

Anyone know what to about this.

Thanks for your help.

This recently happened to a friend of ours, try with her school records for dates which will help with age etc. Also have her contact the aumphur where she was born. To see what you can bring in along with the records for a house registration. Be prepared to offer some "fees" to the officials it can be very helpful.

good luck

[lostinblue 1,989]

It is possible to have a sworn declaration by a friend or family member who had first hand knowledge of the birth .

http://cflgallery.com/FAQ/CFL_FAQ_P3_Final1.htm#Q2_5

look under no birth certificate

http://www.amazon.com/Fiance-Marriage-Visa...5151&sr=8-1

maybe in chapter 4 ...the right way to prepare......paperwork. It goes into detail about missing birth certificate You can maybe go to a bookstore or order this helpfull book

[payxibka 10,047]

Birth Certificates

Available. The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3687.html

Edited May 8, 2008 by fwaguy

[pushbrk 13,180]

Birth Certificates

Available. The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3687.html

That sounds like the definitive answer to me. I wish to point out though that the context of the bolded above would apply to a child's visa where evidence is required that the child is offspring of the K1, K3 or CR1 beneficiary. A birth certificate doesn't evidence any step-child relationship with a petitioner. Of course, if the child is offspring of the petitioner, some additional evidence may be required to obtain a US Passport for the child. That's a separate issue.

[motu 6]

I had to do the same as lostinblue has recommended. When I applied for my greencard (based on family sponsorship) I was asked to submit a birth certificate - I had none. The US embassy then told me that two relatives who can swear to it in front of a magistrate (on a stamped court paper) can then be used as proof of birth - (my other school and university documents had a date of birth but I had never been asked for it till this.) This was in India.

[rin and john 71]

Birth Certificates

Available. The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3687.html

I agree with this from a State department standpoint. Rin received her visa without a copy of her birth certificate (used ID card, passport, and tabian baan - house book) to establish birth date and Thai citizenship.

The concern Rin and I had was with DHS later when we adjust status. So when we went back in October 2007 we obtained her BC from the amphur where she was born. Adjustment of status without a BC is possible, but it should make it much easier with one since one must prove that the document is not available.

From the code of federal regulations regarding records for immigration:

TITLE 8--Aliens and Nationality

CHAPTER I--DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

SUBCHAPTER B--IMMIGRATION REGULATIONS

PART 103--POWERS AND DUTIES; AVAILABILITY OF RECORDS

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-....1.2&idno=8

(2) Submitting secondary evidence and affidavits —(i) General. The non-existence or other unavailability of required evidence creates a presumption of ineligibility. If a required document, such as a birth or marriage certificate, does not exist or cannot be obtained, an applicant or petitioner must demonstrate this and submit secondary evidence, such as church or school records, pertinent to the facts at issue. If secondary evidence also does not exist or cannot be obtained, the applicant or petitioner must demonstrate the unavailability of both the required document and relevant secondary evidence, and submit two or more affidavits, sworn to or affirmed by persons who are not parties to the petition who have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances. Secondary evidence must overcome the unavailability of primary evidence, and affidavits must overcome the unavailability of both primary and secondary evidence.

TommyThai - If at all possible, get the BC. If the amphur cannot provide a BC, then I would try to get them to prepare a letter stating that the birth was never officially registered and that a BC is not available.

Best of luck,

John

[*JG* 2]

I wonder, then, how things will go in the future like applying for SSN, DL, etc. Everything seems to need a birth certificate somewhere.

[motu 6]

I wonder, then, how things will go in the future like applying for SSN, DL, etc. Everything seems to need a birth certificate somewhere.

Not correct - they will accept an ID as in Passport, greencard etc. I received my greencard when I entered in LA and since then used that for everything till I got my drivers license and have never been asked for a birth certificate since (I used my Indian passport for ID also some times in banks, DMV etc.) - I have had a US passport for 21 years now (well one after the other after the other). Good Luck

[mrtndwyne 0]

Hello, can anyone help?

My fiancee does not have a birth certificate.

Her birth was never announced and recorded in Thailand.

Anyone know what to about this.

Thanks for your help.

My wife is from Khon Kaen. We used House Registration for I-129F. But, when she come to America she will need a Birth Certificate (Certified) to Change Status.

Dwayne & Sandy

[aron and tommy 0]

GREAT NEWS...!!!!

After hearing Aron was needing to go to her home town to get a Birth Certificate a relative was looking through some family papers and found it. That was a big surprise to everyone.

"One Down" and 9,999 to go......... ha ha!!

Thanks to everyone who gave your suggestions and input, hopefully it has or will help other to achieve their goals.

Good luck and Blessings to all.

I'm sure there are many more questions ahead.

Kind Regards,

Tommy