Weary Democratic voters 'unimpressed' by both candidates

[SaadBell 0]

Hmmm.. Radical conservative republicans remind me of muslim extremist minus the wanting to kill us thing...

[GaryC 7]

The 571's will tear him a new azzhole in the general and all the charm in the world will not save him.

If you think McCain's gaffe's, plunders, flip-flopping and generally confused state of mind as of recent won't be exposed, you're seriously kidding yourself. And if you think McCain is about to have a cakewalk to 1600 Penn Ave, you're in for some bad news. The wind is going to start blowing. And it's going to come from 1200. As I said earlier, better get some strong folks behind the ole' man to make sure he don't fall over.

We shall see. My money is on McCain. I don't give Obama much of a chance.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The 571's will tear him a new azzhole in the general and all the charm in the world will not save him.

If you think McCain's gaffe's, plunders, flip-flopping and generally confused state of mind as of recent won't be exposed, you're seriously kidding yourself. And if you think McCain is about to have a cakewalk to 1600 Penn Ave, you're in for some bad news. The wind is going to start blowing. And it's going to come from 1200. As I said earlier, better get some strong folks behind the ole' man to make sure he don't fall over.

We shall see. My money is on McCain. I don't give Obama much of a chance.

Dream weaver.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

[one...two...tree 2,762]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

Not in this election...perhaps in 2004, but not now. Sorry.

[GaryC 7]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

Not in this election...perhaps in 2004, but not now. Sorry.

I love the way you seem to know the future Steven. Want to tell me what the stock market will do next week?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

Not in this election...perhaps in 2004, but not now. Sorry.

I love the way you seem to know the future Steven. Want to tell me what the stock market will do next week?

Tee hee...victory will be sweet.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

Yeah - he is. But he isn't going to do himself any favours unless he differentiates himself from Bush.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supportered Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supportered Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

Robin, at this point in history and in the context of what is/has happened to this country, Michael Dukakis could be the Democratic nominee and we'd still win the White House. There's no divorcing McCain from Bush's failed policies and American voters have had enough of it. It's a simple as that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supportered Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

Robin, at this point in history and in the context of what is/has happened to this country, Michael Dukakis could be the Democratic nominee and we'd still win the White House. There's no divorcing McCain from Bush's failed policies and American voters have had enough of it. It's a simple as that.

I think that depends on what issues McCain campaigns on in the general election. He has a more pragmatic view on the Iraq war than on the economy, in my view.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supportered Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

Robin, at this point in history and in the context of what is/has happened to this country, Michael Dukakis could be the Democratic nominee and we'd still win the White House. There's no divorcing McCain from Bush's failed policies and American voters have had enough of it. It's a simple as that.

Steve, I would have said the same thing in 2004 and look what happened. And unlike 4 years ago, Kerry was actually ahead in the polls until about September/October. I'm not saying it won't happen, I just think there is a lot of over-confidence here for a candidate theat never delivered th knock-out punch in his party's primaries.

It's not often I agree with Gary over you Steven, but this is one of those times

[one...two...tree 2,762]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supportered Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

Robin, at this point in history and in the context of what is/has happened to this country, Michael Dukakis could be the Democratic nominee and we'd still win the White House. There's no divorcing McCain from Bush's failed policies and American voters have had enough of it. It's a simple as that.

Steve, I would have said the same thing in 2004 and look what happened. And unlike 4 years ago, Kerry was actually ahead in the polls until about September/October. I'm not saying it won't happen, I just think there is a lot of over-confidence here for a candidate theat never delivered th knock-out punch in his party's primaries.

It's not often I agree with Gary over you Steven, but this is one of those times

The feeling of confidence isn't based solely on warm fuzzy feelings of Obama - although his charisma, intelligence and great oratory skills are not to be underestimated...it's the record turnouts of newly registered Democrats, record breaking donations - in small amounts, by young people who now feel involved in the process....juxtaposed against a sitting President whose Party has squandered our future...things couldn't look brighter for the Democrats. However, I've been around long enough to know that both parties have a history of mucking things up, one way or another...if we win the White House and control Congress - we better damn well deliver on whatever we say we'll do.

Edited May 8, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

McCain is a more formidable candidate than people here give him credit for

He's also got a lot more baggage than his supporters like to admit.

I think most of McCain's supporters, such as Gary, admit he has flaws. Most BO supporters think he can walk on water and then turn it into wine. They can't imagine that not everyone is as enthusiastic as they are for their candidate. These include older, blue collar voters who don't have problems voting for a Republican like McCain, people who probably supported Reagan in the 80s. BO will have problems gaining traction with these voters, especially of the specter of Rev. Wright hangs around for long.

There is more to McCain than flaws. He's not the centrist Maverick he likes to be seen as. Look as his record. This will be discussed in the course of the general election campaign. And much of it will make many Dems that backed Hillary twice about whether he's the better alternative to vote for.

That said, Barack Obama doesn't walk on water nor does he turn water into wine. But he has a gift of energizing and motivating people. A gift to effectively communicate ideas and visions that make people dream again and wanting to re-capture America. Does he have all the answers? No. Does he have the right answers for everyone? Of course not. Does he have an ability to bring people together and have them listen to one another? Many that have worked with him - Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike - say that they think he does. More so than Hillary or McCain who - in all fairness - both have shown that talent as well.

The Rev Wright? Let's just say that McCain has his own version of Rev. Wright. I don't think that McCain will go into this #######-for-tat nonsense. This is actually one of the things I kind of look forward to: two candidates running a campain on their platform rather than based on the destruction of the other person.