Latest polls point to Hillary landslide in Indiana, close finish (within MoE) in North Carolina

[Mags 112]

My suspicion is that you voted for Bush I and called those who elected Clinton in 1992 as stupid too. And, then again you probably voted for Bush II in 2000 and '04 feeling pretty smug about that only to go through devastatingly self-deprecating buyer's remorse. If that is the case, you may have to go through "deja vu all over again" thang all over again.

*whispers*

He didn't vote for Bush I or II. And he rather likes Bill Clinton.

[simple_male 1]

My suspicion is that you voted for Bush I and called those who elected Clinton in 1992 as stupid too. And, then again you probably voted for Bush II in 2000 and '04 feeling pretty smug about that only to go through devastatingly self-deprecating buyer's remorse. If that is the case, you may have to go through "deja vu all over again" thang all over again.

*whispers*

He didn't vote for Bush I or II. And he rather likes Bill Clinton.

I see he likes the first names start with 'B.' Back then, it was Bill, now it is Barack.

Edited May 5, 2008 by simple_male

[chri'stina 190]

When ppl's dislike for a candidate turns into insult after insult about them as a person, it makes whoever they are supporting look even less appealing IMO. Like in another thread people saying Bush is just like Hitler. Give me a break.

I have said many times I'd rather have Obama than Hillary, but now I don't know. The more feverish support I see for Obama, the less appealing the whole thing seems to me. He is not a savior and probably won't be able to change many things during a presidential term despite all the promises made. That goes for all the candidates IMO. He is supposed to try to unite people behind him, repubs and dems, but I as a repub feel alienated by some who support him because instead of debates it will turn into personal insults about the candidates running against him and those not voting for him. But then Hillary Clinton has gone on about a "right wing conspiracy"...so that's not much better. I think all of the world's problems are because of right wing conspiracies...or at least that's what I've heard.

I just don't think anyone should be made to feel stupid for who they decide to vote for. That's people being bullies because someone didn't vote for who they wanted them to. We are all free to choose who we want to vote for.

[Caladan 19]

54% of the vote is a landslide now?

[mawilson 2,133]

My suspicion is that you voted for Bush I and called those who elected Clinton in 1992 as stupid too. And, then again you probably voted for Bush II in 2000 and '04 feeling pretty smug about that only to go through devastatingly self-deprecating buyer's remorse. If that is the case, you may have to go through "deja vu all over again" thang all over again.

*whispers*

He didn't vote for Bush I or II. And he rather likes Bill Clinton.

I see he likes the first names start with 'B.' Back then, it was Bill, now it is Barack.

But not Billary?

[metta 0]

I have said many times I'd rather have Obama than Hillary, but now I don't know. The more feverish support I see for Obama, the less appealing the whole thing seems to me. He is not a savior and probably won't be able to change many things during a presidential term despite all the promises made. That goes for all the candidates IMO. He is supposed to try to unite people behind him, repubs and dems,

Both Hillary and barack may yet do that...

Hypothetically, if Hillary gets the nomination, there are rumblings even now that African American voters might move en bloc over to GOP. If that should happen, I can see images of Al Sharpton and O'Reily lovefest on Fox

If the reverse happens and barack becomes POTUS, then Reps will be in need of a leader with cojones...and according to carville there's one on Dem side with not one but three cojones...

Already, there's an article on how conservative Reps are falling for HRC. She even claims Rush has a crush on her..

So, who knows....

Edited May 5, 2008 by metta

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Insider Advantage's latest survey projects that black voters will comprise 35% of all who turnout on Tuesday, which seems a little low, but may well be in the ballpark of the reasonable. Obama leads Clinton by four points, with Clinton taking nearly 60% of the white vote and nearly doubling her usual percentage of the black vote (17%). The (relatively) small lead for Obama here is directly related to Clinton's performance among black voters. Mason Dixon's most recent poll, for example, have Obama an eight point lead overall having taken 87% of the black vote in an assumed electorate where blacks make up around 40% of the total.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archiv...orth_caroli.php

Hypothetically, if Hillary gets the nomination, there are rumblings even now that African American voters might move en bloc over to GOP.

With all due respect, those rumblings are just silly. The more likely outcome is depressed turnout.

Already, there's an article on how conservative Reps are falling for HRC. She even claims Rush has a crush on her..

Yes. She's being a good Republican.

She, not Rush, is the true face of Operation Chaos

[chri'stina 190]

Insider Advantage's latest survey projects that black voters will comprise 35% of all who turnout on Tuesday, which seems a little low, but may well be in the ballpark of the reasonable. Obama leads Clinton by four points, with Clinton taking nearly 60% of the white vote and nearly doubling her usual percentage of the black vote (17%). The (relatively) small lead for Obama here is directly related to Clinton's performance among black voters. Mason Dixon's most recent poll, for example, have Obama an eight point lead overall having taken 87% of the black vote in an assumed electorate where blacks make up around 40% of the total.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archiv...orth_caroli.php

Hypothetically, if Hillary gets the nomination, there are rumblings even now that African American voters might move en bloc over to GOP.

With all due respect, those rumblings are just silly. The more likely outcome is depressed turnout.

Already, there's an article on how conservative Reps are falling for HRC. She even claims Rush has a crush on her..

Yes. She's being a good Republican.

She, not Rush, is the true face of Operation Chaos

Are you talking about HRC or me? haha

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

HRC. You, I like!

[chri'stina 190]

So if I run for President one day, I have your vote right?!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Christina of course! Your policy stands won't even matter

[chri'stina 190]

awesome!

[metta 0]

Insider Advantage's latest survey projects that black voters will comprise 35% of all who turnout on Tuesday, which seems a little low, but may well be in the ballpark of the reasonable. Obama leads Clinton by four points, with Clinton taking nearly 60% of the white vote and nearly doubling her usual percentage of the black vote (17%). The (relatively) small lead for Obama here is directly related to Clinton's performance among black voters. Mason Dixon's most recent poll, for example, have Obama an eight point lead overall having taken 87% of the black vote in an assumed electorate where blacks make up around 40% of the total.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archiv...orth_caroli.php

Hypothetically, if Hillary gets the nomination, there are rumblings even now that African American voters might move en bloc over to GOP.

With all due respect, those rumblings are just silly. The more likely outcome is depressed turnout.

Already, there's an article on how conservative Reps are falling for HRC. She even claims Rush has a crush on her..

Yes. She's being a good Republican.

She, not Rush, is the true face of Operation Chaos

Now troll, you forget barack has been trashing Bill's dem adminstration why extolling Reagan's...

That makes him a Reagan democrat.

Hey, if he can sell that notion to the "stupid" beer drinking whites he might could win them over without having to take shots of Crown Royal in those godawful dives.

Edited May 5, 2008 by metta

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

When ppl's dislike for a candidate turns into insult after insult about them as a person, it makes whoever they are supporting look even less appealing IMO. Like in another thread people saying Bush is just like Hitler. Give me a break.

I have said many times I'd rather have Obama than Hillary, but now I don't know. The more feverish support I see for Obama, the less appealing the whole thing seems to me. He is not a savior and probably won't be able to change many things during a presidential term despite all the promises made. That goes for all the candidates IMO. He is supposed to try to unite people behind him, repubs and dems, but I as a repub feel alienated by some who support him because instead of debates it will turn into personal insults about the candidates running against him and those not voting for him. But then Hillary Clinton has gone on about a "right wing conspiracy"...so that's not much better. I think all of the world's problems are because of right wing conspiracies...or at least that's what I've heard.

I just don't think anyone should be made to feel stupid for who they decide to vote for. That's people being bullies because someone didn't vote for who they wanted them to. We are all free to choose who we want to vote for.

I agree completely

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

According to SurveyUSA's 8th and final tracking poll, conducted exclusively for ABC11 Eyewitness News, on the final day of the fiercely fought campaign, Senator Barack Obama holds on with 50% of the vote to Senator Hillary Clinton's 45% of those polled.

There is no foreseeable outcome in North Carolina, regardless of which candidate wins the popular vote, where one candidate collects significantly more convention delegates than the other.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=...&id=6123227

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