Angry Dems Protest Unseated Florida Delegates

[cieloazul 0]

I didn't see this link on this post but it allows you to move a scroll bar and see how the $uper dels and final 9 primaries affect the overall delegate totals for BO and HC. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/del...nter/index.html

If they don't seat Florida or Michigan BO will have to get most of the remaining $uper Dels. That might not happen and it is so funny that the Dem leadership created this problem all by themselves..ok,,a little help with Florida's Republican legislator and Michigan's Dem? legislator.

[PlatyPius 5]

I don't care if they count Florida. Well, I do, but not enough to go rabid about it. There is no way in hell, however, that they can count Michigan.

What is up with Florida, anyway? Are the old people completely senile? Have they infiltrated the government? They can't punch a ballot card and they apparently can't follow simple rules. Then, once they've broken the rules, they whine about it. Chopf##k morons.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I didn't see this link on this post but it allows you to move a scroll bar and see how the $uper dels and final 9 primaries affect the overall delegate totals for BO and HC. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/del...nter/index.html

If they don't seat Florida or Michigan BO will have to get most of the remaining $uper Dels. That might not happen and it is so funny that the Dem leadership created this problem all by themselves..ok,,a little help with Florida's Republican legislator and Michigan's Dem? legislator.

Did you play with the sliders at all? Go look for yourself...move the sliders to give Hillary a 20 point win in every remain Primary and divide the remaining super delegates in half and guess what the final numbers are...

Hillary 1,983

Obama 2,043

Obama will reach the 2,025, most likely before June.

[PlatyPius 5]

I didn't see this link on this post but it allows you to move a scroll bar and see how the $uper dels and final 9 primaries affect the overall delegate totals for BO and HC. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/del...nter/index.html

If they don't seat Florida or Michigan BO will have to get most of the remaining $uper Dels. That might not happen and it is so funny that the Dem leadership created this problem all by themselves..ok,,a little help with Florida's Republican legislator and Michigan's Dem? legislator.

Did you play with the sliders at all? Go look for yourself...move the sliders to give Hillary a 20 point win in every remain Primary and divide the remaining super delegates in half and guess what the final numbers are...

Hillary 1,983

Obama 2,043

Obama will reach the 2,025, most likely before June.

Oh yeah?! Well, if Hillary wins 100% of the remaining states/territories and ONLY gets half of the superdelegates, she'll have 2147! She'll win! There's a chance, still!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I didn't see this link on this post but it allows you to move a scroll bar and see how the $uper dels and final 9 primaries affect the overall delegate totals for BO and HC. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/del...nter/index.html

If they don't seat Florida or Michigan BO will have to get most of the remaining $uper Dels. That might not happen and it is so funny that the Dem leadership created this problem all by themselves..ok,,a little help with Florida's Republican legislator and Michigan's Dem? legislator.

Did you play with the sliders at all? Go look for yourself...move the sliders to give Hillary a 20 point win in every remain Primary and divide the remaining super delegates in half and guess what the final numbers are...

Hillary 1,983

Obama 2,043

Obama will reach the 2,025, most likely before June.

Oh yeah?! Well, if Hillary wins 100% of the remaining states/territories and ONLY gets half of the superdelegates, she'll have 2147! She'll win! There's a chance, still!

LOL

I've been playing with calculator some more and even if Hillary won every remaing Primary by 20, and the majority of super delegates, Obama still comes out on top. It's astounding the level of denial going on here by some of her most ardent supporters...crazy.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

They need to take their argument to their party leaders that decided to switch their primary dates knowing the consequences. I don't understand... This is asinine!!!

[dalegg 143]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

[no name 1]

It's astounding the level of denial going on here by some of her most ardent supporters...crazy.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

They officially pledge their support at the Convention, but it is merely ceremonial at that point. What Hillary supporters are hoping is that somehow, super delegates will switch their support for Obama at the Convention...and it isn't going to happen. This has been a tough, hotly contested race and for all intents and purposes, a close one, but at the end of the day, the super delegates know they will choose the next nominee and they aren't going to be wishy washy about it once the Primaries are over. The Party Leaders have stressed to them what needs to be done for the sake of the Party and for our chances at the WH. Clinton will concede...she has no choice but to when Obama reaches 2,025.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Illumine - That mirror is ugly...

Edited May 2, 2008 by Sheriff Uling

[no name 1]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

They officially pledge their support at the Convention, but it is merely ceremonial at that point. What Hillary supporters are hoping is that somehow, super delegates will switch their support for Obama at the Convention...and it isn't going to happen. This has been a tough, hotly contested race and for all intents and purposes, a close one, but at the end of the day, the super delegates know they will choose the next nominee and they aren't going to be wishy washy about it once the Primaries are over. The Party Leaders have stressed to them what needs to be done for the sake of the Party and for our chances at the WH. Clinton will concede...she has no choice but to when Obama reaches 2,025.

Your party or America's? Unbelievable.

[dalegg 143]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

They officially pledge their support at the Convention, but it is merely ceremonial at that point. What Hillary supporters are hoping is that somehow, super delegates will switch their support for Obama at the Convention...and it isn't going to happen. This has been a tough, hotly contested race and for all intents and purposes, a close one, but at the end of the day, the super delegates know they will choose the next nominee and they aren't going to be wishy washy about it once the Primaries are over. The Party Leaders have stressed to them what needs to be done for the sake of the Party and for our chances at the WH. Clinton will concede...she has no choice but to when Obama reaches 2,025.

So when do they unofficially count?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

They officially pledge their support at the Convention, but it is merely ceremonial at that point. What Hillary supporters are hoping is that somehow, super delegates will switch their support for Obama at the Convention...and it isn't going to happen. This has been a tough, hotly contested race and for all intents and purposes, a close one, but at the end of the day, the super delegates know they will choose the next nominee and they aren't going to be wishy washy about it once the Primaries are over. The Party Leaders have stressed to them what needs to be done for the sake of the Party and for our chances at the WH. Clinton will concede...she has no choice but to when Obama reaches 2,025.

So when do they unofficially count?

Since the beginning of the race. Hillary started out with 96 pledged super delegates....96! It was the main reason why no other candidate could foreseeably pass her, let alone even get close, especially when there were so many candidates in the beginning. You can bet your britches that Hillary has counted those super delegates, which makes all the more comical that now, Dev is arguing that they really don't count until the Convention.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Listen to David Bonoir at 4:04

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/video/module.h...42008&seg=2

[dalegg 143]

When do the Superdelegates actually go into the count? What's with the switching between candidates? Is there a day when someone says "put up or shut up" or can they just throw in their vote any time they feel?

They officially pledge their support at the Convention, but it is merely ceremonial at that point. What Hillary supporters are hoping is that somehow, super delegates will switch their support for Obama at the Convention...and it isn't going to happen. This has been a tough, hotly contested race and for all intents and purposes, a close one, but at the end of the day, the super delegates know they will choose the next nominee and they aren't going to be wishy washy about it once the Primaries are over. The Party Leaders have stressed to them what needs to be done for the sake of the Party and for our chances at the WH. Clinton will concede...she has no choice but to when Obama reaches 2,025.

So when do they unofficially count?

Since the beginning of the race. Hillary started out with 96 pledged super delegates....96! It was the main reason why no other candidate could foreseeably pass her, let alone even get close, especially when there were so many candidates in the beginning. You can bet your britches that Hillary has counted those super delegates, which makes all the more comical that now, Dev is arguing that they really don't count until the Convention.

By my count, if Hillary gets 60% of the remaining superdelates and state delagates, she will actually surpass Obama. Granted just about anything less gives it to him, but heck 60% isn't impossible, especially if these polls keep going the direction they are going.