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Clinton does not lead Obama in the popular vote. It is a fantasy.

The people she most needs to convince that this fantasy is true are the people least likely to believe it.

Let’s first deal with Clinton’s fantasy lead in the popular vote.

"I’m very proud that as of today, I have received more votes by the people who have voted than anyone else," Clinton said the day after her victory in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

But has she really? No. Not really. Not unless you throw out the existing rules of the Democratic Party and invent a new set of Hillary Rules.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton counts the popular vote in Michigan, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot. The Democratic Party does not recognize those votes.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton also counts the popular vote in Florida, where candidates were forbidden to campaign. The Democratic Party does not recognize the results of the Florida primary, either.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton throws out the "votes by the people who have voted" in the states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, because those were caucus states, where popular vote tallies were not officially kept and where, by the way, Obama won three out of the four contests.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton gets to choose the contests that help her, throw out the contests that do not and declare herself the winner.

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56 percent of all superdelegates are members of the Democratic National Committee itself, and the DNC represents the largest bloc of delegates who have not yet committed to a candidate.

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More than anybody, DNC members know that the popular vote doesn’t count, even though Clinton says it does.

The DNC made the current rules. If it had wanted a national primary, a day on which all Democrats across the land would vote and choose the nominee (a legitimate idea), it would have created such a system.

But the DNC created a different system, one in which pledged delegates — selected from legitimate primaries and caucuses — and superdelegates get to select the nominee.

OK, but let’s say you got the DNC members really, really drunk (not an outrageous scenario) and convinced them that the popular vote ought to count. Could you then convince them that counting Michigan and Florida makes sense?

No way. For starters, the DNC is the group that declared Michigan and Florida rogue states in the first place. Do you really think the DNC is now likely to accept the popular vote count from those states?

Second, to make Clinton’s popular vote fantasy work, you have to throw out the votes in legitimate caucus states such as Iowa. The DNC turns its back on Iowa? As if.

Lastly, there is the big picture: Will the DNC really overturn the choice of the pledged delegates and substitute Clinton as the nominee over Obama?

I doubt it. First and foremost, DNC members care about the party and its future. So ask yourself: Is the DNC going to shatter the party by telling black voters and young voters that their votes in legitimate primaries and caucuses do not count?

Clinton can try to make up her own set of rules, but that doesn’t mean they are going to rule the DNC or the day.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9994.html

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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Here's a cold dose of reality...

Delegate Count: Obama 1732 Hillary 1596

Superdelegates: Obama 243 Hillary 263

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289 Remaining uncommitted superdelegates

By the end of the Primaries, if Hillary were to win every last one of them by at least 20 points, here's what they'll both have:

Delegate Count: Obama 1651 Hillary 1584

With current Superdelegates: Obama 1899 Hillary 1847

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Hillary would need 178 of the remaining 289 superdelegates to secure the nomination

Obama would need 126.

As close as that is and seems, the superdelegates do not want to take this nomination away from the candidate who has the most delegates and popular vote (any argument to count MI and FL popular votes would be moot).

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So, by Jun 3rd or so, we'll have a nominee and it's going to be Obama.

(Reprinted by permission of the author himself)

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Where's metta and dev? C'mon folks, you gotta slam this manufactured propaganda piece. How dare politico bring facts into this debate and start making sense? This truly offends the sense of entitlement in camp Hillary. It really does. ** the voters, they say. ** them for they don't know what they want.

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