Senator Obama gets 2 more superdelegate endorsements today - and the day is still young!

[metta 0]

Superdelegate deluge

Posted: 12:32 PM ET

(CNN) — The superdelegate deluge continued Wednesday afternoon with the announcement of two new endorsements.

Luisette Cabanas, an unpledged superdelegate from Puerto Rico, is backing Hillary Clinton. California Rep. Lois Capps is supporting Barack Obama. (Capps is the mother-in-law of Obama Press Secretary Bill Burton.)

So far, the Clinton campaign has released the names of four new superdelegate supporters in the last 24 hours, and the Obama campaign has named five.

metta, you want all the superdelegates to choose now rather than wait until the Convention? If so, that's commendable. Let's choose our nominee by beginning of June.

metta? Dev? Buehler? Beuhler?

Naaah. This thing will go right down the wire no matter which pundit predicts what. As yopu will notice, there are no objective pundits anymore in this game and at this stage. Everyone of them is up to the neck in working quite insidiously and deviously for their candidate.

Obama still ain't out of the woods yet. His campaign is waiting nervously for the next possible attack from the reverend. I bet at this moment Rev. Wright's phones must be ringing of the hook from Black leaders and neutral friends trying to pursuade him to lie low.

As to the impact of Wrightgate, only North Carolina and Indiana primaries will reveal the actual effect.

In the meantime, it seems to me Obama campaign is going overdrive to create the perception that Obama still holds the momentum and is the inevitable nominee by with the help of the blogs and surrogates in the MSM masquerading as fair and balanced commentators at MSNBC, CNN . Last night they trotted out Richardson again on hardball reigniting "is bill a boon or bane to Hillary's campign?" #######. Just look at the blogospere like Huff Po, Politico and the likes.

But the truth is, the campaigns are still very much in the thick of the fight with the outcome still very precarious for both sides.

[GaryC 7]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

[no name 1]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

Damn straight. MI laid out a (lame) proposal. HC would get 10 more than BO.

Superdelegate deluge

Posted: 12:32 PM ET

(CNN) — The superdelegate deluge continued Wednesday afternoon with the announcement of two new endorsements.

Luisette Cabanas, an unpledged superdelegate from Puerto Rico, is backing Hillary Clinton. California Rep. Lois Capps is supporting Barack Obama. (Capps is the mother-in-law of Obama Press Secretary Bill Burton.)

So far, the Clinton campaign has released the names of four new superdelegate supporters in the last 24 hours, and the Obama campaign has named five.

metta, you want all the superdelegates to choose now rather than wait until the Convention? If so, that's commendable. Let's choose our nominee by beginning of June.

metta? Dev? Buehler? Beuhler?

Naaah. This thing will go right down the wire no matter which pundit predicts what. As yopu will notice, there are no objective pundits anymore in this game and at this stage. Everyone of them is up to the neck in working quite insidiously and deviously for their candidate.

Obama still ain't out of the woods yet. His campaign is waiting nervously for the next possible attack from the reverend. I bet at this moment Rev. Wright's phones must be ringing of the hook from Black leaders and neutral friends trying to pursuade him to lie low.

As to the impact of Wrightgate, only North Carolina and Indiana primaries will reveal the actual effect.

In the meantime, it seems to me Obama campaign is going overdrive to create the perception that Obama still holds the momentum and is the inevitable nominee by with the help of the blogs and surrogates in the MSM masquerading as fair and balanced commentators at MSNBC, CNN . Last night they trotted out Richardson again on hardball reigniting "is bill a boon or bane to Hillary's campign?" #######. Just look at the blogospere like Huff Po, Politico and the likes.

But the truth is, the campaigns are still very much in the thick of the fight with the outcome still very precarious for both sides.

I was reading several stories how they are waiting for Wright to talk! I am too!!!! There's no way in he!! he is going quietly into the night - he's relishing his 15 minutes....

I see HC denounced Wright's ####### today:

Hillary Clinton said Wednesday she personally took offense to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's recent comments, the New York senator’s harshest assessment yet of Barack Obama's former minister.

"I think it’s offensive and outrageous. I’m going to express my opinion, others can express theirs," Clinton told Fox’s Bill O'Reilly. "It is part of just, you know, an atmosphere we’re in today.”

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Edited April 30, 2008 by illumine

[metta 0]

You know that at this point both campaigns are aiming not for the math but the minds of the superdelegates.

The primaries are now the major avenues to the decision-making centers in the superdelegates' minds.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

There is a better chance of working out a deal with FL because both canidates were on the ticket. I can't see them working MI out..., but maybe. Honestly, the majority of folks here are republicans or Sen. Clinton supporters who could really care less. Republicans are enjoying the spoils of the currently democratic spectacle, which has been Sen. Obama's fall from grace that Sen. Clinton is attempting to capitalizing on. This has all been very entertaining to say the least. What's next...? It's anyones guess... OK, we all expect Rev. Wright to hit the scene and I'm betting before this week ends.

[no name 1]

You know that at this point both campaigns are aiming not for the math but the minds of the superdelegates.

The primaries are now the major avenues to the decision-making centers in the superdelegates' minds.

Definitely!

What Obamaland knew (and it wasn't hard to know it): "At a minimum, the spectacle of Mr. Wright's multiday media tour and Mr. Obama's rolling response grabbed the attention of the most important constituency in politics now: the uncommitted superdelegates -- party officials and elected Democrats -- who hold the balance of power in the nominating battle," Zeleny and Nagourney write.

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

[GaryC 7]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

Oh yeah, Everyone does what Dean says!!

[no name 1]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

Oh yeah, Everyone does what Dean says!!

esp since he has no power to enforce it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

Oh yeah, Everyone does what Dean says!!

esp since he has no power to enforce it.

The superdelegates care about the DNC and will not let this drag on to the Convention. I know that's what you are hoping for, but it won't happen. There's no logical reason for them to wait until the Convention and risk squandering not just the WH, but every House and Senate seat that is up for re-election. I'm just counting the days when all this nonsense ends.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

Oh yeah, Everyone does what Dean says!!

It's not just Dean. The Congressional Leadership has indicated that they will push as well. As will any other Democrat that is interested not to completely destroy the party's more than fair chances to win not only the White House but also gain strength in Congress. Neither is going to happen if there isn't unity going into the summer much less if there isn't unity going into the convention. If Hillary is behind still in June - and she most likely will be - there won't be much support for her dragging this on. She'll have a chance to make the decison herself. Otherwise, the supers will make it for her - including some of those that have thus far pledged their support to her. I think that Dean has it right when he says that the one needing to drop out will do so when it is clear that the time has come. And the time will come in June when all the contests are done.

[GaryC 7]

It looks like the SD are splitting right down the middle! Woot! No winner until August!

Not quite, if all the super delegates split down the middle, Obama will have the nessary delegates after the last primary. No winner until June though.

Not when you consider that Obama is tanking in the polls. Clinton will win most of the rest of the states and garner more delegates. This isn't going to be over for a long time! Sorry PH.

Even if Clinton were to win every remaining Primary by more than 30 points (which isn't going to happen), she'd still trail Obama by more than 30 pledged delegates. As it stands, Obama is within 293 delegates of securing the nomination. He's going to be the nominee, however much he's taken a hit from all the negativity.

You seem to be forgetting FL and MI. My bet is something will happen there. I doubt if the dems go to the convention with two stars missing from the flag.

I'm going by the Democratic Party Chairman's call for the superdelegates to choose by June 2nd. If the remaining ones do just that, we will have a nominee in about a month and his name his Barack Obama.

Oh yeah, Everyone does what Dean says!!

It's not just Dean. The Congressional Leadership has indicated that they will push as well. As will any other Democrat that is interested not to completely destroy the party's more than fair chances to win not only the White House but also gain strength in Congress. Neither is going to happen if there isn't unity going into the summer much less if there isn't unity going into the convention. If Hillary is behind still in June - and she most likely will be - there won't be much support for her dragging this on. She'll have a chance to make the decison herself. Otherwise, the supers will make it for her - including some of those that have thus far pledged their support to her. I think that Dean has it right when he says that the one needing to drop out will do so when it is clear that the time has come. And the time will come in June when all the contests are done.

You know that there is a lot of arm twisting by Hillary and Bubba going on right now. With Obama tanking in the polls she has a point that Obama may not be the right person for the job. The last few weeks have been very telling. The SD's have been splitting right down the middle and Obama hasn't won a primary since Feb. I know your counting on this being over in June, I think it will get even more muddled then. Also remember that until the convention the SD's can change their minds. Hillary will be doing everything in her power to cause that to happen. If even one more Obama revelation comes out you will see his support fall away. You have to admit that this thing is going as if a script was written for the reps. Don't relax yet Dog.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's not just Dean. The Congressional Leadership has indicated that they will push as well. As will any other Democrat that is interested not to completely destroy the party's more than fair chances to win not only the White House but also gain strength in Congress. Neither is going to happen if there isn't unity going into the summer much less if there isn't unity going into the convention. If Hillary is behind still in June - and she most likely will be - there won't be much support for her dragging this on. She'll have a chance to make the decison herself. Otherwise, the supers will make it for her - including some of those that have thus far pledged their support to her. I think that Dean has it right when he says that the one needing to drop out will do so when it is clear that the time has come. And the time will come in June when all the contests are done.

Nobody in the Democratic Party except perhaps Hillary Clinton wants to see this go to the Convention because they know the consequences. I can't help but wonder how many within the Party must be miffed by Hillary's hope of taking the whole Party down with her.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You know that there is a lot of arm twisting by Hillary and Bubba going on right now. With Obama tanking in the polls she has a point that Obama may not be the right person for the job. The last few weeks have been very telling. The SD's have been splitting right down the middle and Obama hasn't won a primary since Feb. I know your counting on this being over in June, I think it will get even more muddled then. Also remember that until the convention the SD's can change their minds. Hillary will be doing everything in her power to cause that to happen. If even one more Obama revelation comes out you will see his support fall away. You have to admit that this thing is going as if a script was written for the reps. Don't relax yet Dog.

Don't kid yourself, Gary....you've made that argument along time ago. The Clinton Dynasty finally crumbled. This race and the way the two candidates have conducted themselves has shaped what the superdelegates will do. They will choose and be done by the beginning of June. Mark my words.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

What if Obama loses IN and NC? What do you think should happen then?