Senator McCain proposes giving each family $5,000 to buy their own health insurance

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

To pay for the tax credit, McCain would eliminate the tax exemption for people whose employers pay a portion of their coverage, raising an estimated $3.6 trillion in revenues, Holtz-Eakin said. Companies that provide coverage to workers still would get tax breaks. McCain would also cut costs by limiting health care lawsuits.

McC HealthPlan

Intersting, McCain proposes to raise taxes. Hasn't he just said that he would do no such thing?

[tom&tata 2]

Instead of fixing the cost of healthcare, it is easier just to give credit & let everybody pay for it & pray it would work.

[Dan J 277]

Its more of McCains sound good on paper plans but have no effect on reality.

Like the gas tax holiday, while it might temporarly decrease prices (For a week or two). The lower price will drive up demand and gas prices will go back up.

So the net effect is less money to pay for roads, and no change in the price for gas.

Fixing healthcare is going to need more than subsidizing the current system

[mawilson 2,133]

Obviously we need health care reform but why are these three the ones to decide what is best? Get a group of experts on how to build the best healthcare system in the world and then bring it to congress and the senate. We don't need a bandaid, we need the entire sytem rebuilt from scratch.

One brilliant idea, thank you

Who said that? You didn't attribute the quote to anyone.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its more of McCains sound good on paper plans but have no effect on reality.

Like the gas tax holiday, while it might temporarly decrease prices (For a week or two). The lower price will drive up demand and gas prices will go back up.

So the net effect is less money to pay for roads, and no change in the price for gas.

Fixing healthcare is going to need more than subsidizing the current system

I don't even think it sounds good on paper. He's doing nothing to reign in costs directly as much as setting market conditions and hoping it all works out.

You can buy your healthplan yourself, still wade through a tonne of labyrinthine legalese and still find that you'll be subject to pre-existing condition clauses and still find out the hard way that certain conditions aren't covered at all.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Obviously we need health care reform but why are these three the ones to decide what is best? Get a group of experts on how to build the best healthcare system in the world and then bring it to congress and the senate. We don't need a bandaid, we need the entire sytem rebuilt from scratch.

One brilliant idea, thank you

Who said that? You didn't attribute the quote to anyone.

Poster Gaby & Talbert, post #2.

[SaadBell 0]

Thank you troll, sorry, I swear I meant to write Gary, blame it on age

[kaydee457 13]

To pay for the tax credit, McCain would eliminate the tax exemption for people whose employers pay a portion of their coverage, raising an estimated $3.6 trillion in revenues, Holtz-Eakin said. Companies that provide coverage to workers still would get tax breaks. McCain would also cut costs by limiting health care lawsuits.

McC HealthPlan

Intersting, McCain proposes to raise taxes. Hasn't he just said that he would do no such thing?

I'm admittedley a little concerned over this myself. I want some clarification.......

I'm not exactly sure what "exemption" he's talking about.....

If he's suggesting that the cost of your employee health care, the portion paid for by your Employer, in my case around 7k, is to be grossed up into your salary and taxed as ordinary income, then this plan is doomed.......He'll never get it past congress.

[kaydee457 13]

Its more of McCains sound good on paper plans but have no effect on reality.

Like the gas tax holiday, while it might temporarly decrease prices (For a week or two). The lower price will drive up demand and gas prices will go back up.

So the net effect is less money to pay for roads, and no change in the price for gas.

Fixing healthcare is going to need more than subsidizing the current system

I don't even think it sounds good on paper. He's doing nothing to reign in costs directly as much as setting market conditions and hoping it all works out.

You can buy your healthplan yourself, still wade through a tonne of labyrinthine legalese and still find that you'll be subject to pre-existing condition clauses and still find out the hard way that certain conditions aren't covered at all.

I read this several times in your posts but you never suggest how one would do this.

Are you suggesting another bureaucracy to intervene into private health care and regulate, impose restrictions on costs?

Who decides what's reasonable for a procedure, and what's not a reasonable cost? What about enforcement?

Let’s hear your proposal, 6.

[Heracles 417]

Let’s hear your proposal, 6.

Enough with the jokes..

While I was watching the news I noticed that McCain is proposing allowing the employees to basically pick their health insurance provider rather than sticking with the one the employer chooses. Now that is an excellent idea..

Edited April 30, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[nana_356 0]

My goodness this is a horrible idea, i have family members that need medication and have illnesses and this would never be enouhg, enen with his wishy washy gap program. god willing he doesnt become president

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

i have family members that need medication and have illnesses and this would never be enouhg...

According to Congressional Democrats, the money isn't there for either Hillary or Obama's plan anyway.

So what does it matter?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

To pay for the tax credit, McCain would eliminate the tax exemption for people whose employers pay a portion of their coverage, raising an estimated $3.6 trillion in revenues, Holtz-Eakin said. Companies that provide coverage to workers still would get tax breaks. McCain would also cut costs by limiting health care lawsuits.

McC HealthPlan

Intersting, McCain proposes to raise taxes. Hasn't he just said that he would do no such thing?

I'm admittedley a little concerned over this myself. I want some clarification.......

I'm not exactly sure what "exemption" he's talking about.....

The "exemption" is that whatever your employer pays towards your health insurance doesn't count into your gross income which is reported to the IRS. Lifting that "exemption" would mean that gong forward, you will see your gross income - and hence your taxes - jump up. If this raises 3.6 trillion dollars, that means that working Americans will collectively pay that much more in payroll taxes. That's a significant tax hike.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

McCain is suggesting we all get a raise!

[yogib37 3]

To pay for the tax credit, McCain would eliminate the tax exemption for people whose employers pay a portion of their coverage, raising an estimated $3.6 trillion in revenues, Holtz-Eakin said. Companies that provide coverage to workers still would get tax breaks. McCain would also cut costs by limiting health care lawsuits.

McC HealthPlan

Intersting, McCain proposes to raise taxes. Hasn't he just said that he would do no such thing?

Flip Flopper :lol: