Supreme Court rules that Indiana is allowed to require voters to produce photo ID

[kaydee457 13]

Hillary Clinton's been pushing a bill called the "count every vote act" that essentially allows any person, on election day, unregistered, without ID, to show up at the polling place and cast a ballot.......

She's been pushing this for a long time now. What this is in reality is a thin veiled attempt to give illegals the right to vote in State, as well as National Elections....

any vote

Why is everything about the illegals? It is the poor and the uneducated that they want to get out and vote. These are the people that don't typically vote and would probably vote democratic if they would just vote.

Not all is about illegals but this act is clearly designed to bring them to the polls. The bolded is exactly my point.

It's illustrative of the strategy that democrats have been pursuing for years, and that's to bring their supposed base to the polls, including illegals......

The poor and uneducated have enough brains to find their way into the local DMV to obtain an ID card.

To those that believe that it's just too difficult to verify a picture ID, and use the nonsensical argument that those manning the polls need to be document experts, the vetting of the ID to be used for voting is done at the registration office, not at the polling place.

The ID need only match the name and address of the person standing before them on election day. I fail to see a problem here. If you're not registered you can't vote, and one, and only one person in possesion of the picture ID can vote at that precinct as the ID will be checked to the list of registered voters for that precinct.

Edited April 28, 2008 by kaydee457

[HAL 9000 96]

Geez... I guess we'll have the VJ Minutemen enforcing Indiana voting law too.

Will this be via profiling or will the ridiculous annoyance apply to all that show up at the booths?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Geez... I guess we'll have the VJ Minutemen enforcing Indiana voting law too.

Will this be via profiling or will the ridiculous annoyance apply to all that show up at the booths?

I remember one voting year I was turned away because they asked me for my Driver's license and it recently expired so they turned me away. It wasn't until later that I found out they can't do that.

[Ban Hammer 13,353]

Hmm, you can't cash a $5 check without photo ID but you can vote in a national election without one.....

This is just wrong and I hope this ripples throughout the country.

Voting is a constitutional right....check writing isn't.

just ask goose!

i'm sure you remember who i'm referring to

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hmm, you can't cash a $5 check without photo ID but you can vote in a national election without one.....

This is just wrong and I hope this ripples throughout the country.

Voting is a constitutional right....check writing isn't.

just ask goose!

i'm sure you remember who i'm referring to

Yep. I don't have a collection of photos of that Goose though. If you want though, I'll go into the store and snap a few.

[mawilson 2,133]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

[HAL 9000 96]

Geez... I guess we'll have the VJ Minutemen enforcing Indiana voting law too.

Will this be via profiling or will the ridiculous annoyance apply to all that show up at the booths?

I remember one voting year I was turned away because they asked me for my Driver's license and it recently expired so they turned me away. It wasn't until later that I found out they can't do that.

I was thinking more of those that already have a history of showing up at polling locations to harass/misinform voters and getting away with it through election results.

[mawilson 2,133]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

No, but only because I know it's illegal and might jeopardize my legal status - not because I don't want to.

If I were illegal using a fake name and there was a way for me to vote, you can bet your ### I would!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

No, but only because I know it's illegal and might jeopardize my legal status - not because I don't want to.

If I were illegal using a fake name and there was a way for me to vote, you can bet your ### I would!

...and tell me just how would you pull this off, if you were so inclined?

[GaryC 7]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

No, but only because I know it's illegal and might jeopardize my legal status - not because I don't want to.

If I were illegal using a fake name and there was a way for me to vote, you can bet your ### I would!

...and tell me just how would you pull this off, if you were so inclined?

Go to one of these registration drives, fill out a card and on voting day go and vote. It isn't that hard Steven.

[mawilson 2,133]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

No, but only because I know it's illegal and might jeopardize my legal status - not because I don't want to.

If I were illegal using a fake name and there was a way for me to vote, you can bet your ### I would!

...and tell me just how would you pull this off, if you were so inclined?

Go to one of these registration drives, fill out a card and on voting day go and vote. It isn't that hard Steven.

What Gary said.

I'd also vote for Obama since he's the most liberal of the three and most likely to want some sort of an amnesty deal for illegals.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Voter fraud by way of no ID. Where's proof this is happening? You won't find any....and for the reasons I just mentioned.

What are you talking about? For the reasons you mentioned, any illegal or non-citizen

can vote with a name and address.

Have you voted here in the states?

No, but only because I know it's illegal and might jeopardize my legal status - not because I don't want to.

If I were illegal using a fake name and there was a way for me to vote, you can bet your ### I would!

...and tell me just how would you pull this off, if you were so inclined?

Go to one of these registration drives, fill out a card and on voting day go and vote. It isn't that hard Steven.

Wait...are we talking about a new requirement to show identification at the time of registration or when you vote? Two different things.

Edited April 28, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[one...two...tree 2,762]

For clarity sake...(from the CA Secretary of State)

FAQ - ID Requirements

WHAT ARE THE “ID REQUIREMENTS” FOR VOTING UNDER HAVA?

Section 303 (B) of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) sets forth requirements for some voters to provide ID to vote.

Implementation of the specifics of this requirement can be quite complicated for election officials, but in general: If a voter registers to vote in a county on or after January 1, 2003 , the registration is by mail, and the voter has not previously voted in that county, then the voter must either provide ID when he or she registers or provide ID when he or she votes .

HOW DOES A VOTER PROVE ID?

Section 303 (B) (2) specifies the ID requirements for voters who vote in person or by absentee ballot.

“In person” voters must show a “current and valid photo identification” or “a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter.”

“Absentee voters” must submit with their ballot one of the documents listed above.

The Secretary of State, in accordance with Elections Code section 14310 (e), has promulgated emergency regulations defining the documents a voter may use to prove ID to vote (see FAQ #3 --- STANDARDS FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY WHEN PROOF IS REQUIRED BY HAVA – Section 20107 of Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations).

IS THERE ANY WAY A VOTER CAN AVOID HAVING TO SHOW ID WHEN HE OR SHE VOTES?

Yes.

First, the requirement only applies to voters who have never voted in the county in a federal election. Persons who were already registered as of January 1, 2003, or who change address within the county and re-register, are not required to show ID to vote.

Second, voters who do not register to vote “by mail” are not required to show ID to vote.

Third, Section 303 (B) (3) states that if the voter provides his or her driver's license number, or the last 4 digits of his or her social security number, on the form to register to vote, and the elections official can verify the number is correct, then the ID requirement does not apply.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/hava_id_requirements.htm

[kaydee457 13]

For clarity sake...(from the CA Secretary of State)

FAQ - ID Requirements

WHAT ARE THE “ID REQUIREMENTS†FOR VOTING UNDER HAVA?

Section 303 (B) of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) sets forth requirements for some voters to provide ID to vote.

Implementation of the specifics of this requirement can be quite complicated for election officials, but in general: If a voter registers to vote in a county on or after January 1, 2003 , the registration is by mail, and the voter has not previously voted in that county, then the voter must either provide ID when he or she registers or provide ID when he or she votes .

HOW DOES A VOTER PROVE ID?

Section 303 (B) (2) specifies the ID requirements for voters who vote in person or by absentee ballot.

“In person†voters must show a “current and valid photo identification†or “a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter.â€

“Absentee voters†must submit with their ballot one of the documents listed above.

The Secretary of State, in accordance with Elections Code section 14310 (e), has promulgated emergency regulations defining the documents a voter may use to prove ID to vote (see FAQ #3 --- STANDARDS FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY WHEN PROOF IS REQUIRED BY HAVA – Section 20107 of Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations).

IS THERE ANY WAY A VOTER CAN AVOID HAVING TO SHOW ID WHEN HE OR SHE VOTES?

Yes.

First, the requirement only applies to voters who have never voted in the county in a federal election. Persons who were already registered as of January 1, 2003, or who change address within the county and re-register, are not required to show ID to vote.

Second, voters who do not register to vote “by mail†are not required to show ID to vote.

Third, Section 303 (B) (3) states that if the voter provides his or her driver's license number, or the last 4 digits of his or her social security number, on the form to register to vote, and the elections official can verify the number is correct, then the ID requirement does not apply.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/hava_id_requirements.htm

Where's the proof of citizenship required to vote? I would expect something like this from Ca.......

Correct me if I'm wrong but do you not have to be a citizen to register, not just simply a resident, to vote?

Edited April 29, 2008 by kaydee457