certificados antecedentes

[Nosotros 0]

I know that my fiancee will need to obtain three types of police certificates, namely:- Certificado de antecedentes policiales, Certificado judicial de antecedentes penales and Certificado de antecedentes judiciales a nivel nacional. I need a clarification on what this means for someone who has lived in multiple places in Peru. Does this mean that she will need three different types of certificados for each place she has lived, or only one of the three has to be taken from each place she has lived, and the rest only come from Lima?

If so, which ones?

Thanks for any info.

[YuAndDan 153]

It is a National one:

Police Records

Police records (Certificado de Antecedentes Policiales) are available to applicants over the age of 16, and are issued on green paper with the heading “Policia Nacional del Peru, Division de Identificacion, Certificado de Antecedentes Policiales”. The applicant's photo is attached to the certificate. Applicants without criminal records will have "No Registra Antecedentes" printed on the form. A negative certificate does not necessarily mean the subject has no police record, since police records may be deleted upon completion of sentence. A police record may be issued to residents or non-residents upon application to Policia de Investigaciones del Peru. Division de Identificacion, Av. Aramburu No. 550, Lima 34, Lima. The applicant must first request a fingerprint chart (ficha de canje internacional) and provide one photo. Processing time is normally three days. There is a small fee.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3649.html

For most countries you only need one cert.

The disclaimer "Every placed lived" "Place" = Countries.

[Mononoke28 135]

Your fiancée needs to get this information from the appropiate agency. In Colombia for example only one place takes care of this which is the DAS. They will give the beneficiary one police certificate showing all records of every city in Colombia, so no need to go to different cities to get it.

Diana

[Nosotros 0]

Thanks for the responses Yu and Diana. I see this question alot, and it is confusing to me in the case of the Peru consulate, which requires 3 types of certs. So basically you guys are saying that all the 3 certs should cover the whole nation, and not just the region you happen to find yourself in at the moment?

Thanks

[BRIAN AND ISA 0]

I am not sure if I can help you out here. Isa only lived in one city and just got that one and then the ones in Lima when she was there for the interview. The way I understand it is every place she has lived since 18 years of age. I am not sure if that means every city or country. Sorry I coundn't help you out more on this.

[Mononoke28 135]

Thanks for the responses Yu and Diana. I see this question alot, and it is confusing to me in the case of the Peru consulate, which requires 3 types of certs. So basically you guys are saying that all the 3 certs should cover the whole nation, and not just the region you happen to find yourself in at the moment?

Thanks

The three certificates should show her record on a national level "a nivel nacional", if the embassy is requesting all three then she needs to get all three. I find it hard to believe that she would need one for each city or she'd end up with a big pile.

La Policía Nacional del Perú should be able to let her know all the details regarding the three certificates.

Diana

[YuAndDan 153]

One last note: Next time you may want to post to correct forum, this topic belongs in: "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" NOT "Adjustment of Status (Green Card) General Discussion"

AOS forum has to do with people that already have the visa, and are adjusting status in the USA, such as K-1 enters USA and has married, and is now filing for Green-Card.

[Shannon and David 0]

I know that my fiancee will need to obtain three types of police certificates, namely:- Certificado de antecedentes policiales, Certificado judicial de antecedentes penales and Certificado de antecedentes judiciales a nivel nacional. I need a clarification on what this means for someone who has lived in multiple places in Peru. Does this mean that she will need three different types of certificados for each place she has lived, or only one of the three has to be taken from each place she has lived, and the rest only come from Lima?

If so, which ones?

Thanks for any info.

Hi!

Yes, for Peru you need the 3 certificates.

David got the penales and judiciales in Lima. He got the policiales in the city where he lives.

In the directions for the packet 3, it says that she should get the policiales for every place that she has lived for 12 months or more since the age of 16.

He has only lived in one city, but the way that the directions read, it seems to me that only the policiales should be from every place.

We tried to call the Embassy a couple of times with questions; completely not worth it! On hold for an hour and then they said, "We're sorry, we're only answering questions for ____ now." It was infuriating. Oh, and they treat the K-1 as an immigrant visa there when it comes to answering questions on the phone, which technically it is NOT.

Have her send you a copy of the directions (scan and send via email) and I think that you'll agree with me on this...

Hope this helps!

Edited April 24, 2008 by Shannon and David

[Nosotros 0]

One last note: Next time you may want to post to correct forum, this topic belongs in: "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" NOT "Adjustment of Status (Green Card) General Discussion"

AOS forum has to do with people that already have the visa, and are adjusting status in the USA, such as K-1 enters USA and has married, and is now filing for Green-Card.

Well, YuAndDan, this is probably a case where "logical" isn't always right.

I spent a minute trying to figure out where to put this. So, I decided that I would go into my vj portal (Lima, Peru), click on one of the topics, and instead of clicking "Add Reply", I clicked on "Add New Topic". That's how I started this topic, ofcourse, with the assumption that it would end up in the same forum that I was in. I was never any where near AOS

So, I don't know how it ended up under AOS.

[Nosotros 0]

Hi!

Yes, for Peru you need the 3 certificates.

David got the penales and judiciales in Lima. He got the policiales in the city where he lives.

In the directions for the packet 3, it says that she should get the policiales for every place that she has lived for 12 months or more since the age of 16.

He has only lived in one city, but the way that the directions read, it seems to me that only the policiales should be from every place.

We tried to call the Embassy a couple of times with questions; completely not worth it! On hold for an hour and then they said, "We're sorry, we're only answering questions for ____ now." It was infuriating. Oh, and they treat the K-1 as an immigrant visa there when it comes to answering questions on the phone, which technically it is NOT.

Have her send you a copy of the directions (scan and send via email) and I think that you'll agree with me on this...

Hope this helps!

Thanks Shannon for the response. This is what I am gathering also, that she will need a cert policial from La merced and Lima since she has lived in both places. But the other two are strictly from Lima, because those do cover the entire country.

Our case was sent to Lima yesterday (and it is a paltry 3 lbs of material, according to DHL) so I am guessing it will be there on Monday. It is getting pretty exciting already.

[Nosotros 0]

One last note: Next time you may want to post to correct forum, this topic belongs in: "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" NOT "Adjustment of Status (Green Card) General Discussion"

AOS forum has to do with people that already have the visa, and are adjusting status in the USA, such as K-1 enters USA and has married, and is now filing for Green-Card.

Ok, now I see how this thread ended up in AOS forum. I went to my portal and clicked on the thread "Within 90 days ....", and then proceeded to create a new topic from there. It turns out that thread is in "AOS" forum.

Can some one with powers move this to the appropriate forum then, please?

And how to I start a topic in the appropriate area?

[Shannon and David 0]

One last note: Next time you may want to post to correct forum, this topic belongs in: "The Foreign Embassy and Consulate General Discussion" NOT "Adjustment of Status (Green Card) General Discussion"

AOS forum has to do with people that already have the visa, and are adjusting status in the USA, such as K-1 enters USA and has married, and is now filing for Green-Card.

Ok, now I see how this thread ended up in AOS forum. I went to my portal and clicked on the thread "Within 90 days ....", and then proceeded to create a new topic from there. It turns out that thread is in "AOS" forum.

Can some one with powers move this to the appropriate forum then, please?

And how to I start a topic in the appropriate area?

Hi Nosotros!

Your topic has already been moved by the powers that be.

To start a new topic just go to the proper forum that you want to post it in (probably The Embassy section for now; after she gets here, you'll start posting in the AOS section) and then at the top of the page, right hand side, it'll say "post new topic" or something along those lines.

Edited April 26, 2008 by Shannon and David

[sanfranguy 0]

fyi. mexico consulate does not ask for one.

[Nosotros 0]

Hi Nosotros!

Your topic has already been moved by the powers that be.

Thanks powers that be

The information is so fragmented. I love the guides on this site, because most of the information is on here; I also like the forums because you get the rest of the information that way.

I went to the embassy website, and sure enough it says right there that you need a certificado policial (in Spanish, ofcourse). It clearly says it is to be obtained from each COUNTRY lived in for 12 months or more, so implying that it is not from each city or region lived within the same country. So, that info is on the website, fine and dandy. But, on the same website, there's no info that says you need a certificado judicial or de penales. And ofcourse these are clearly required per the experiences of users on here.

Any way, just venting about the "ilogicalness" of the whole process.

[Shannon and David 0]

Hi Nosotros!

Your topic has already been moved by the powers that be.

Thanks powers that be

The information is so fragmented. I love the guides on this site, because most of the information is on here; I also like the forums because you get the rest of the information that way.

I went to the embassy website, and sure enough it says right there that you need a certificado policial (in Spanish, ofcourse). It clearly says it is to be obtained from each COUNTRY lived in for 12 months or more, so implying that it is not from each city or region lived within the same country. So, that info is on the website, fine and dandy. But, on the same website, there's no info that says you need a certificado judicial or de penales. And ofcourse these are clearly required per the experiences of users on here.

Any way, just venting about the "ilogicalness" of the whole process.

Hi nosotros! I completely agree... the illogicalness is very real and definitely NOT clear in terms of the Embassy website or on the travel.state.gov website either as that one states that all you need is the certificado policiales! Ugh!

Anyway, here's the quote from the packet 3 on certificados policiales...

"Todo solicitante de visa que tenga 16 años o más deberá presentar un certificado de conducta emitido por las autoridades policiales de cada lugar en donde haya vivido doce meses o más desde que cumpliera 16 años. Deberá obtener también, un certificado de las autoridades policiales de cualquier lugar donde el solicitante haya sido arrestado por cualquier motivo, sin importar el tiempo que haya vivido allí. El certificado policial deberá cubrir todo el tiempo que el solicitante haya recidido en ese lugar. Un certificado de conducta emitido por las autoridades policiales donde resida en la actualidad, indicando lo que consta en sus archivos referente al solicitante, incluyeno cualquier arresto que haya sufrido, los motivos del mismo y lo dispuesto en cada caso del cual existan antecedentes.

Deberá ser de fecha reciente al momento de presentarlo ante el funcionario Consular. Algunos países no otorgan certificados de antecedentes policiales o son considerados inobtenibles. El funcionario consular le informará sobre cualquier país en particular."

So, this to me says that it should be from every place (lugar), no? So, therefore city... I don't know. It doesn't say country. This is the only form that David got in his hometown, the other two he got in Lima. But then again the last line does say countries (países). Who knows!!??

The other two, penales and judiciales... Also from packet 3.

Penales doesn't specifiy an origin at all. "Todo solicitante, a partir de los 16 años, deberá presentar este documento." That's all it says.

Judicales is very clear that it's to rec'd in Lima. "Certificado de antecedentes judicales (a nivel nacional): Todo solicitante, a partir de 18 años, deberá presentar este documento."

I'm going to find a link to the thing I found earlier that helped me...

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=108296

Edited April 30, 2008 by Shannon and David