Canberra, Sydney protests over torch relay

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

Nah, you can just keep sleeping.

probably the best choice. it don't seem like a major issue anyways.

you're right, human rights never are.......

imo it's not about human rights. it's about politicizing the olympics.

don't assume that is what it is about for those actually doing the protesting...

funny how it occurs during the torch carry......

[Heracles 417]

It's an interesting irony that BY is dismissing the various Olympic protests as trivial nonsense while defending China's right to do as it pleases--which includes jailing people for protesting.

This obsession with rights after the 60's is what kills me. The US has much more pressing issues of its own to worry about than China and Tibet, like its imminent bankruptcy and plunge into 2nd world status. Like it being ranked almost last in literacy, Math and Science standards when compared to the rest of the developed world. That is what people need to seriously worry about. As it will eventually effect their lives.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

It's an interesting irony that BY is dismissing the various Olympic protests as trivial nonsense while defending China's right to do as it pleases--which includes jailing people for protesting.

This obsession with rights after the 60's is what kills me. The US has much more pressing issues of its own to worry about than China and Tibet, like its imminent bankruptcy and plunge into 2nd world status. Like it being ranked almost last in literacy, Math and Science standards when compared to the rest of the developed world. That is what people need to seriously worry about. As it will eventually effect their lives.

Perhaps you're not aware that protests occurred outside the U.S. as well.

I know you can't resist every opportunity to note the U.S.'s myriad shortcomings, but again, it has little to do with the subject at hand.

Perhaps you could start a consultancy and instruct Americans as to what they should be concerned with. I'm sure it would be appreciated given your vast and varied experience with domestic and foreign policy priorities.

And what kills you about this "obsession with rights"? (and what obsession is this?)

[Heracles 417]

Perhaps you're not aware that protests occurred outside the U.S. as well.

I know you can't resist every opportunity to note the U.S.'s myriad shortcomings, but again, it has little to do with the subject at hand.

Perhaps you could start a consultancy and instruct Americans as to what they should be concerned with. I'm sure it would be appreciated given your vast and varied experience with domestic and foreign policy priorities.

And what kills you about this "obsession with rights"? (and what obsession is this?)

They are not going bankrupt so they have time to protest.

Anything to do with rights. Stuff like equal marriage rights for oppressed lesbian Shih Tzus etc etc..Tibetan freedom is the latest BS bandwagon.

Edited April 23, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Perhaps you're not aware that protests occurred outside the U.S. as well.

I know you can't resist every opportunity to note the U.S.'s myriad shortcomings, but again, it has little to do with the subject at hand.

Perhaps you could start a consultancy and instruct Americans as to what they should be concerned with. I'm sure it would be appreciated given your vast and varied experience with domestic and foreign policy priorities.

And what kills you about this "obsession with rights"? (and what obsession is this?)

They are not going bankrupt so they have time to protest.

Anything to do with rights. Stuff like equal marriage rights for oppressed lesbian Shih Tzus etc etc..Tibetan freedom is the latest BS bandwagon.

It's been an issue for about 60 years. That you weren't paying attention before now doesn't mean that others weren't.

[Sister Fracas 5]

funny how it occurs during the torch carry......

From my email from the Tibetan community here in Chicago...

On Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 2:00 PM -5:00 PM: The Chicago community will protest for the release of Panchen Lama and all Tibetan political prisoners in Tibet.

All protesters will meet at 2:00 PM and thereafter we will march to the Chinese Consulate. The protest will continue until 5:00 PM at the Chinese Cosulate.

The 11th Panchen Lama, world's youngest political prisoner and missing since 1995, was born on April 25th, 1989. Please visit the web site of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery for more information on His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche.

Funny, I don't see any mention of the Olympics there...

It's been an issue for about 60 years. That you weren't paying attention before now doesn't mean that others weren't.

[HAL 9000 96]

Nah, you can just keep sleeping.

probably the best choice. it don't seem like a major issue anyways.

you're right, human rights never are.......

imo it's not about human rights. it's about politicizing the olympics.

don't assume that is what it is about for those actually doing the protesting...

funny how it occurs during the torch carry......

Well, duh to that brother Charles... I doubt that the Chinese will allow Tibetans to be anywhere near the Olympics themselves OR for that matter, any media coverage of said events.

But yes... I'd like for SF to perhaps bring to light any protests from Tibetans during the selections phase for the Games.

I do remember as far back as 2000 seeing plenty of Anti-Beijing propaganda like:

But that was in Paris, not Tibet. We all knew Paris wanted the games at that point...

[jundp 191]

China is China. People don't have to like them or ever move there. I don't agree with protesting about their choice of government. Quite contradictory to our free society actually.

I don't agree with people disrupting somebody else's life to force their views. Liberals tend to do this a lot. Where freedom is starting to mean you do what we say or else will will disrupt your lifestyle. For example, You either do what 'we' consider is green or we burn down your buildings.

Damn straight I will disrupt someone else's life to "force" my views. What the Chinese government is doing and has done to the Tibetans is genocide.

And guess what? Their almost single-handed support of the Sudanese government that is committing the atrocities in Darfur is worth mentioning as well.

Maybe you can sit back and adopt an "it doesn't matter, live and let live" attitude, but I refuse to do that. That's what happened from 1939 to 1945. 11 million people were killed. There's a saying maybe you've heard before that you must "be the change you wish to see in the world" (Gandhi)...I believe in using my voice and my money and my time and my effort to make the change I wish to see.

I think life is sacred. I believe it is my right and my duty to protect it.

Edited April 23, 2008 by jundp

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

funny how it occurs during the torch carry......

From my email from the Tibetan community here in Chicago...

On Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 2:00 PM -5:00 PM: The Chicago community will protest for the release of Panchen Lama and all Tibetan political prisoners in Tibet.

All protesters will meet at 2:00 PM and thereafter we will march to the Chinese Consulate. The protest will continue until 5:00 PM at the Chinese Cosulate.

The 11th Panchen Lama, world's youngest political prisoner and missing since 1995, was born on April 25th, 1989. Please visit the web site of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery for more information on His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche.

Funny, I don't see any mention of the Olympics there...

It's been an issue for about 60 years. That you weren't paying attention before now doesn't mean that others weren't.

yawn. i guess some just need another cause. when you get to the protest about the higher price of pizza, lemme know.

[HAL 9000 96]

funny how it occurs during the torch carry......

From my email from the Tibetan community here in Chicago...

On Friday, April 25, 2008 @ 2:00 PM -5:00 PM: The Chicago community will protest for the release of Panchen Lama and all Tibetan political prisoners in Tibet.

All protesters will meet at 2:00 PM and thereafter we will march to the Chinese Consulate. The protest will continue until 5:00 PM at the Chinese Cosulate.

The 11th Panchen Lama, world's youngest political prisoner and missing since 1995, was born on April 25th, 1989. Please visit the web site of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery for more information on His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche.

Funny, I don't see any mention of the Olympics there...

It's been an issue for about 60 years. That you weren't paying attention before now doesn't mean that others weren't.

yawn. i guess some just need another cause. when you get to the protest about the higher price of pizza, lemme know.

Yeah, we get it, you don't care. So move on brother Charles. Move on. Nothing to see here.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Yeah, we get it, you don't care. So move on brother Charles. Move on. Nothing to see here.

nah, he's just trying, unsuccessfully, to rile me.

Anyway, he's got guns to polish...

Edited April 23, 2008 by Sister Fracas

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

Yeah, we get it, you don't care. So move on brother Charles. Move on. Nothing to see here.

nah, he's just trying, unsuccessfully, to rile me.

Anyway, he's got guns to polish...

good idea *sneaks off with sister fracas's habit*

[HAL 9000 96]

Yeah, we get it, you don't care. So move on brother Charles. Move on. Nothing to see here.

nah, he's just trying, unsuccessfully, to rile me.

Anyway, he's got guns to polish...

good idea *sneaks off with sister fracas's habit*

[Sister Fracas 5]

Yeah, we get it, you don't care. So move on brother Charles. Move on. Nothing to see here.

nah, he's just trying, unsuccessfully, to rile me.

Anyway, he's got guns to polish...

good idea *sneaks off with sister fracas's habit*

got plenty more where them come from...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Perhaps you're not aware that protests occurred outside the U.S. as well.

I know you can't resist every opportunity to note the U.S.'s myriad shortcomings, but again, it has little to do with the subject at hand.

Perhaps you could start a consultancy and instruct Americans as to what they should be concerned with. I'm sure it would be appreciated given your vast and varied experience with domestic and foreign policy priorities.

And what kills you about this "obsession with rights"? (and what obsession is this?)

They are not going bankrupt so they have time to protest.

Anything to do with rights. Stuff like equal marriage rights for oppressed lesbian Shih Tzus etc etc..Tibetan freedom is the latest BS bandwagon.

It's been an issue for about 60 years. That you weren't paying attention before now doesn't mean that others weren't.

Yeah really. It's hardly a "bandwagon of the week".