Canberra, Sydney protests over torch relay

[Sister Fracas 5]

Of course! All hippies are greasy. They need the grease to accelerate the fires they've set to all those houses and businesses.

gotcha....

wonder where hubster keeps his grease....under the bed???

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

Anyone want to steer the discussion back to China?

Yes - we really don't need another irrelevant tangent.

[Heracles 417]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

and where exactly are gays/lesbians tearing down a city???

It's the point. Conservatives rarely protest. Too busy working and looking after their families rather than relying on the government or trying to ram their opinion down somebody else's throat. Whereas liberals almost look for the chance to protest about something.

Yes - we really don't need another irrelevant tangent.

or your irrelevant view of China.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

Anyone want to steer the discussion back to China?

LOL I wondered what gays had to do with China....cuz I doubt there are too many gays running around China...actually, maybe it's a place BooYah should live, seeing as he appreciates the government there so much.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

and where exactly are gays/lesbians tearing down a city???

More to the point - how are they "disrupting somebody else's life to get their way"?

I mean - what's the point here? That we should pretend that social injustice doesn't exist - that there aren't things that people are deeply unhappy about and want redress?

[Sister Fracas 5]

It's the point. Conservatives rarely protest. Too busy working and looking after their families rather than relying on the government or trying to ram their opinion down somebody else's throat. Whereas liberals almost look for the chance to protest about something.

No, they don't protest, they just go into a country, guns blazing, if you aren't with us, you're against us.... yee haw..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

and where exactly are gays/lesbians tearing down a city???

It's the point. Conservatives rarely protest. Too busy working and looking after their families rather than relying on the government or trying to ram their opinion down somebody else's throat. Whereas liberals almost look for the chance to protest about something.

Yes - we really don't need another irrelevant tangent.

or your irrelevant view of China.

It would be irrelevant if I were the only person who holds that view. Safe to say - that I am not. If anything you're the one in the minority.

[Heracles 417]

LOL I wondered what gays had to do with China....cuz I doubt there are too many gays running around China...actually, maybe it's a place BooYah should live, seeing as he appreciates the government there so much.

Gays was just an example. How certain groups who complain about the way somebody lives, have contradictory views when somebody disagrees with their views / lifestyle. I am sure there are a lot of people in China who disagree with the protesters choices.

[Sister Fracas 5]

I mean - what's the point here? That we should pretend that social injustice doesn't exist - that there aren't things that people are deeply unhappy about and want redress?

Yes, we should all just sit back and let our president tell us what to do and when...he knows best afterall... baaaaah...

[Heracles 417]

It would be irrelevant if I were the only person who holds that view. Safe to say - that I am not. If anything you're the one in the minority.

Just because a handful of the usual people back your views does not mean that everybody supports them..

[Heracles 417]

I mean - what's the point here? That we should pretend that social injustice doesn't exist - that there aren't things that people are deeply unhappy about and want redress?

Yes, we should all just sit back and let our president tell us what to do and when...he knows best afterall... baaaaah...

Well maybe you can take the job. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

Okay, Bush is bad and will be out in x months. I am waiting to see all of the wonderful things the next president, a democrat will bring..

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Freedom of choice--where it exists, that is--also means that anyone can protest what they see as injustices, with the intention of calling attention to them. And you have the freedom to ignore those greasy hippies and give kudos to China for standing their ground.

Certain groups, usually with left wing views, feel they have the right to disrupt somebody else's life to get their way. That is not what democracy is all about. San Fransisco, for example, is the city of gays / lesbians. Good for them. I will not live there. Freedom of choice. But how would they like it if everyone else, the millions, who disagrees with them went and basically tore down the city and disrupted their way of life.

and where exactly are gays/lesbians tearing down a city???

It's the point. Conservatives rarely protest. Too busy working and looking after their families rather than relying on the government or trying to ram their opinion down somebody else's throat. Whereas liberals almost look for the chance to protest about something.

Yes - we really don't need another irrelevant tangent.

or your irrelevant view of China.

BY, it sounds like your issue is with protesting and social activism generally.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist..." --remember that?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It would be irrelevant if I were the only person who holds that view. Safe to say - that I am not. If anything you're the one in the minority.

Just because a handful of the usual people back your views does not mean that everybody supports them..

I'd say the massive world-wide protests, as well as the official and long-standing condemnation of numerous human rights organisations, world governments and the UN do that. IMO of course.

Edited April 23, 2008 by Number 6

[Heracles 417]

BY, it sounds like your issue is with protesting and social activism generally.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist..." --remember that?

My issue is with people who fail to accept that others have opposing views. If a country still wants to be communist then it is their right to do so. Not ours to tell them what they should be.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I mean - what's the point here? That we should pretend that social injustice doesn't exist - that there aren't things that people are deeply unhappy about and want redress?

Yes, we should all just sit back and let our president tell us what to do and when...he knows best afterall... baaaaah...

Well maybe you can take the job. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

Okay, Bush is bad and will be out in x months. I am waiting to see all of the wonderful things the next president, a democrat will bring..

What's the point - even if a Democratic president is as bad or worse than the current lot what difference would it make?

You're still saying people should shut up about the things that bother them politically...