CNN - Hillary Wins PA

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Okay, so if you throw out Michigan completely she gains almost 300,000 from Florida alone (870,986 to 576,214). So now you're talking a difference of just over 200,000 nationwide. Not impossible to makeup. Of course she's going to have to do something about North Carolina, but I think at least you can see her case for sticking it out.

Still has a bad smell - it smells bad if you need to change the rules you agreed to after the game is played in order to make your case. Just won't work.

Edited April 23, 2008 by Mr. Big Dog

[dalegg 143]

Okay, so if you throw out Michigan completely she gains almost 300,000 from Florida alone (870,986 to 576,214). So now you're talking a difference of just over 200,000 nationwide. Not impossible to makeup. Of course she's going to have to do something about North Carolina, but I think at least you can see her case for sticking it out.

Still has a bad smell - it smells bad if you need to change the rules you agreed to after the game is played in order to make your case. Just won't work.

What if it actually came down at the end that if Florida's votes were counted Hillary would win the popular vote, and they aren't? Oh man that would be the picture of irony.

[Dan J 277]

Okay, so if you throw out Michigan completely she gains almost 300,000 from Florida alone (870,986 to 576,214). So now you're talking a difference of just over 200,000 nationwide. Not impossible to makeup. Of course she's going to have to do something about North Carolina, but I think at least you can see her case for sticking it out.

Still has a bad smell - it smells bad if you need to change the rules you agreed to after the game is played in order to make your case. Just won't work.

What if it actually came down at the end that if Florida's votes were counted Hillary would win the popular vote, and they aren't? Oh man that would be the picture of irony.

You would think after the 2000 election they might think twice about doing stuff that doesnt count. But what do you know, they move thier primary up anyway.

I suppose the assumption was that Hillary would be an early victor, and it wouldnt matter.

[Dan J 277]

With 98% reporting, Hillary has only a margin of 9.6%

Based on an overall proportional average her delegate gain is 15. However, since delegates are divided up by voting results in each district, and the number of delegates in each district varies, the real delegate gain is likely to be smaller.

No landslide, but no end to this race yet either.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

With 98% reporting, Hillary has only a margin of 9.6%

Based on an overall proportional average her delegate gain is 15. However, since delegates are divided up by voting results in each district, and the number of delegates in each district varies, the real delegate gain is likely to be smaller.

No landslide, but no end to this race yet either.

The demographics of this race, particularly in PA have been interesting. It's certainly impressive for Hillary, but also impressive for Obama. It will be interesting to see if voters in NC and Indiana are effected by the outcome of PA.

[Dan J 277]

With 98% reporting, Hillary has only a margin of 9.6%

Based on an overall proportional average her delegate gain is 15. However, since delegates are divided up by voting results in each district, and the number of delegates in each district varies, the real delegate gain is likely to be smaller.

No landslide, but no end to this race yet either.

The demographics of this race, particularly in PA have been interesting. It's certainly impressive for Hillary, but also impressive for Obama. It will be interesting to see if voters in NC and Indiana are effected by the outcome of PA.

Its underwhelming for Clinton. She basically had all the cards in her favor, and some screw ups from Obama, but only managed just under a 10% margin.

She wont even gain that many delegates either. Since many districts have only 2 delegates, you need to win 75-25 to get both delegates. Otherwise its a 1-1 split.

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With 98% reporting, Hillary has only a margin of 9.6%

Based on an overall proportional average her delegate gain is 15. However, since delegates are divided up by voting results in each district, and the number of delegates in each district varies, the real delegate gain is likely to be smaller.

No landslide, but no end to this race yet either.

CNN is projecting she gains a net of 6 delegates.

[Dan J 277]

With 98% reporting, Hillary has only a margin of 9.6%

Based on an overall proportional average her delegate gain is 15. However, since delegates are divided up by voting results in each district, and the number of delegates in each district varies, the real delegate gain is likely to be smaller.

No landslide, but no end to this race yet either.

CNN is projecting she gains a net of 6 delegates.

Overall? they have only assigned about 2/3 of them on thier election site.

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I don't know.....

[no name 1]

Clinton team claims campaign fundraising record

Posted: 11:40 PM ET

Hillary Clinton's campaign said that as of 11:30 p.m. ET Tuesday night, they had raised nearly $2.5 million since the state was called for the New York senator – what they called their "best night ever" — with 80 percent of that money coming from new donors.

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She's gonna need it if she's to pay off all that debt she's incurred.... Mark Penn must feed!

[Dan J 277]

I don't know.....

Some districts are counties. Especially out in the rural areas. So assigning the delegates based on those districts would be easy. But in the big cities it gets more complicated, each county is likely split into several districts, and delegates are assigned based on the vote totals from the precincts that make up those districts.

It might not be until later until we know the full delegate counts.

[no name 1]

I don't know.....

Some districts are counties. Especially out in the rural areas. So assigning the delegates based on those districts would be easy. But in the big cities it gets more complicated, each county is likely split into several districts, and delegates are assigned based on the vote totals from the precincts that make up those districts.

It might not be until later until we know the full delegate counts.

You think? It's not 100% yet, is it?

And the full spread as well. Cuz all I can see is 10% (on several sites), contrary to what you are hoping for.

Don't worry, your koolaid machine has already spun it as victory, per usual arrogance.

[Dan J 277]

I don't know.....

Some districts are counties. Especially out in the rural areas. So assigning the delegates based on those districts would be easy. But in the big cities it gets more complicated, each county is likely split into several districts, and delegates are assigned based on the vote totals from the precincts that make up those districts.

It might not be until later until we know the full delegate counts.

You think? It's not 100% yet, is it?

And the full spread as well. Cuz all I can see is 10% (on several sites), contrary to what you are hoping for.

Don't worry, your koolaid machine has already spun it as victory, per usual arrogance.

Because of the large margins needed to gain an extra delegate in most districts, its pretty easy to figure out what the delgate spread is. If its a 2 delegate district you need a 50% margin to get more than one. If its a 3 delegate district a simple majority is enough, and 4 delegate districts you need a 25% margin to get more than 2.

The actual margin is 9.5% or 9.6% But most sites use rounding in thier reporting or fractions confuse to many people.

[Caladan 19]

Okay, so if you throw out Michigan completely she gains almost 300,000 from Florida alone (870,986 to 576,214). So now you're talking a difference of just over 200,000 nationwide. Not impossible to makeup. Of course she's going to have to do something about North Carolina, but I think at least you can see her case for sticking it out.

Still has a bad smell - it smells bad if you need to change the rules you agreed to after the game is played in order to make your case. Just won't work.

Also, it isn't decided by the popular vote. It's the delegate & the superdelegate case that counts.

News is saying she picked up an extra 8 delegates.