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[Fandango 1,439]

Dear Nelly-caller --- marijuana also has medicinal purposes for patients with cancer and severe arthritis and other bone ailments. And dextroamphetamines will come back in a tox screen as clear as meth.

If the marijuana has a script, then there's not a problem. As far as the rest, I'm sure there's a way to screen for a differential, or just mitigate it as a false positive.

'Whoa there Nelly' is just an expression, didn't mean any disrespect, btw....

[brnidokiegurl 0]

I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... SO I AGREE 100%

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I

pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In

order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test

with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the

distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I

have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no

problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other

hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A##, doing

drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state

would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance

check ? Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope

you all will pass it along, though . . . Something has to change in this

country -- and soon

I can't help but think of folks who are under heavy prescription medications which would come out in a tox screen.

Say, for instance, those taking dextro-amphetamines or anti-psychotics. Would you cut their social security because they are medicated? I would not.

I think the statement is a bit of a blanket one.

Something has to change you say: what exactly do you think should change? any ideas? I'm not being b1tchy, I'm honestly curious as to what you meant by change.

As i said i recd this at work, didnt write it, but i do agree i dont like working for other to secure welfare (in some cases) with this habit. I agree in education and training to help get jobs. What needs to change many things, not sure i am smart enough to think that all the way but how is it welfare pay the person more to stay home and not work? Give the assistance with the goal of securing work, better salaries, cheaper child care, dont get paid more for having more kids when you cant feel the first 5, some get these food stamps only to sell sometimes for drugs so many things ......if the person is on some medication that is supported by a dr with a prescription then there would be no prob because the proof would be there. Welfare should be a helping hand when required not a way of life. My 4 cent opinion

[Fandango 1,439]

Welfare should be a helping hand when required not a way of life.

What a concept!

[DeadPoolX 9]

I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... SO I AGREE 100%

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I

pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In

order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test

with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the

distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I

have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no

problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other

hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A##, doing

drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state

would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance

check ? Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope

you all will pass it along, though . . . Something has to change in this

country -- and soon

I can't help but think of folks who are under heavy prescription medications which would come out in a tox screen.

Say, for instance, those taking dextro-amphetamines or anti-psychotics. Would you cut their social security because they are medicated? I would not.

I think the statement is a bit of a blanket one.

Something has to change you say: what exactly do you think should change? any ideas? I'm not being b1tchy, I'm honestly curious as to what you meant by change.

Whoa there,Nelly....meds prescribed by a doc don't 'count' towards a bad urine test. Usually it's just weed, coke, unprescribed pills, etc that are being looked for.

Dear Nelly-caller --- marijuana also has medicinal purposes for patients with cancer and severe arthritis and other bone ailments. And dextroamphetamines will come back in a tox screen as clear as meth.

The simple solution is then to present a copy of your prescription when taking your drug screening. This way, it can be recorded, so if those medications do turn up, they'll be checked off as "okay."

EDIT: Lisa got to it before me... by a whole three minutes.

Edited April 22, 2008 by DeadPoolX

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Welfare should be a helping hand when required not a way of life.

What a concept!

You dont think the new mom with a new baby (that the man has left her and she needs food and help until she gets on her feet) or another couple has unknown medical bills and they loose most everything they have, would welfare Not help until they could do better

[Fandango 1,439]

EDIT: Lisa got to it before me... by a whole three minutes.

neener neener

Welfare should be a helping hand when required not a way of life.

What a concept!

You dont think the new mom with a new baby (that the man has left her and she needs food and help until she gets on her feet) or another couple has unknown medical bills and they loose most everything they have, would welfare Not help until they could do better

Erm, where on earth did I say that? Show me.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I just think it's pretty easy to make blanket statements about people who access welfare (not aiming this comment at anyone) --- we asume this and that (i.e. bunk of junkies, lazy bad mothers, welfare queens, etc.) without knowing ####### about their personal situations (and I count myself amongst the ones who judge sometimes). And that just shows lack of humanity, of which I have been guilty from time to time.

thanks lisa for clarifying the Nelly comment. I didn't know it was an expression and indeed judged it the wrong way.

[DeadPoolX 9]

I just think it's pretty easy to make blanket statements about people who access welfare (not aiming this comment at anyone) --- we asume this and that (i.e. bunk of junkies, lazy bad mothers, welfare queens, etc.) without knowing ####### about their personal situations (and I count myself amongst the ones who judge sometimes). And that just shows lack of humanity, of which I have been guilty from time to time.

thanks lisa for clarifying the Nelly comment. I didn't know it was an expression and indeed judged it the wrong way.

The problem is that although welfare is a good idea in theory, it's been implemented incorrectly and many people have taken advantage of it. It's been abused so often than the public image of a welfare recipient is the stereotype you described, Len. Unfortunately, good ideas aren't enough. Communism was a good idea on paper too and look how that turned out when put into practice with people in the mix.

[Fandango 1,439]

I just think it's pretty easy to make blanket statements about people who access welfare (not aiming this comment at anyone) --- we asume this and that (i.e. bunk of junkies, lazy bad mothers, welfare queens, etc.) without knowing ####### about their personal situations (and I count myself amongst the ones who judge sometimes). And that just shows lack of humanity, of which I have been guilty from time to time.

thanks lisa for clarifying the Nelly comment. I didn't know it was an expression and indeed judged it the wrong way.

But no one's sat here saying the concept of welfare is a bad thing, or that people who fall on bad times shouldn't get help. That being said, no one can really deny the abuse of the system...and it is THOSE bad apples who spoil the bunch. Check out Bowling for Columbine....I am the furthest thing from a MM fan, but I found it sickeningly laughable at the part where the gov't was bussing people on welfare to work...some sort of 'here's a job' program....and they were all b!tching at how unfair it was, one of em even b!tchin on her cellphone.

There's summat seriously wrong with that picture. And tbh, welfare fraud and abuse takes away from those who truly need it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hey, why not? My upstairs neighbor is on state-funded disability and sells marijuana...

If marijuana were legal I'll bet your neighbor could make a real killing.

No big business would take it over and get richer, the little dealer would get weeded out.

Damn...either way, the little guy gets screwed.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Hey, why not? My upstairs neighbor is on state-funded disability and sells marijuana...

If marijuana were legal I'll bet your neighbor could make a real killing.

No big business would take it over and get richer, the little dealer would get weeded out.

Damn...either way, the little guy gets screwed.

What did you expect, Steven? Mom and Pop stores? Who are the main alcohol vendors? Not the microbreweries, but the huge companies. Now whether or not they're good is a matter of opinion, but the large corporations still have the most money, power and influence and everyone knows their name and product. It'd be the same way with marijuana.

[GabiandVi 34]

I just think it's pretty easy to make blanket statements about people who access welfare (not aiming this comment at anyone) --- we asume this and that (i.e. bunk of junkies, lazy bad mothers, welfare queens, etc.) without knowing ####### about their personal situations (and I count myself amongst the ones who judge sometimes). And that just shows lack of humanity, of which I have been guilty from time to time.

thanks lisa for clarifying the Nelly comment. I didn't know it was an expression and indeed judged it the wrong way.

I agree, and there are a whole lot of people on welfare who are honestly only trying to get a hand up. However, it has become a way of life, generation after generation. See Katrina for an example.

I taught in a school where 85% of the students were on welfare. There was all sorts of social security that I wasn't aware of. When a child is diagnosed with some sort of learning disability, they get social security. On the first of the month, a large percentage of my students would be absent to go pick up their "crazy checks" as they called them. Once, I overheard a couple of the best students in the school talking about their futures. One asked the other if she was going to get a job or let Uncle Sam take care of her. This is a career option for many children who have grown up on welfare. Shocking but true. There has to be a change because that attitude is unfair to the children, nevermind the taxpayers who foot the bill.

This isn't true only in the US. To hear my Australian friends talk about how the "dole" works and used to work in their country would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hey, why not? My upstairs neighbor is on state-funded disability and sells marijuana...

If marijuana were legal I'll bet your neighbor could make a real killing.

No big business would take it over and get richer, the little dealer would get weeded out.

Damn...either way, the little guy gets screwed.

What did you expect, Steven? Mom and Pop stores? Who are the main alcohol vendors? Not the microbreweries, but the huge companies. Now whether or not they're good is a matter of opinion, but the large corporations still have the most money, power and influence and everyone knows their name and product. It'd be the same way with marijuana.

Well, in the case of beer, the microbreweries have done actually quite well. Similar trends have happened in the music and movie industries. I have hope for the mom and pop homegrowers to sustain themselves from the fruit of their labor. Entrepreneurialism is the drive of the American Spirit....but first we've got to stop criminalizing Marijuana.

Edited April 22, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

I totally agree with your suggestion!

Well, I think there should be many more requirements in order to qualify for public assistance. No one ever listens to me, though.

A urine test would be just the start.

[Fandango 1,439]

....but first we've got to stop criminalizing Marijuana.

We're agreeing twice in one day? Is it the end of the world as we know it?